EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

This is a topic that has been talked on in the past. I would like to hear from the people that like and are satisfied with what they are catching with. It use to seem like catch dog prospects were just about everywhere. Now they seem to be on the verge of extinction. I have never been the type to settle and that’s exactly what I’m being forced to do at this point. I have a standard of what I like and I had it for many years. It spoiled me honestly. I let that family of dogs run out on me and now I’m paying for it.

Tell me what you are catching with. I’d like to know the breed(s) that it is. The size, the style it catches with, the disposition, etc.

Right now I have a Dogo. First and last one I’ll ever own. He’s REALLY smart and athletic. He is built like a typical Dogo in the sense that he is tall and leggy and not overly muscular or broad. He’s an 83 pound dog. I walk him off leash all the way to the bay. He is my dog and he is happy with that to a fault. I love all of this. They are all criteria for me. 
His negatives are that he’s an idiot when it comes to people. Example, the other day he went to get on the other catch dog for no apparent reason. Deputy Dawg saw it coming and stopped it. Then the  Dogo growled at him. He went to correct him for that and he let him know real quick he didn’t have a problem biting him either. HUGE NO NO when you eat my feed. It isn’t like he doesn’t know Deputy Dawg and Deputy Dawg has never mistreated him. I also question his mouth and his gameness. My gut says they are both suspect. His loyalty is more possessiveness. He doesn’t want any other dog coming up to me and he isn’t real happy about people doing it. I promise you that you won’t hit me twice! I’ve not caught enough decent hogs with him solo to know if he’s very accurate yet. With this heat I haven’t wanted to take the risk of finding out the hard way and stroking out good bay dogs because he can’t do his job.

If you have a good one then tell us about it. It isn’t bragging and I for sure wouldn’t take it as such.


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I feel your pain TDog. I lost my last good female CD in April 2021 and I THINK I finally found another good one. I will say that I ask ALOT from a CD. I hunt 1 or 2 bay dogs at a time that bay loose and don’t always give the CD a good, clean shot. They have taken damage and have become a little hesitant to sink teeth until after the CD hits. I take the blame for this by hunting sub par CDs behind them for too long. They get tired of getting wrecked and having long races because a CD can’t get hooked.
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Clyde is an 18 month old AB/Pit cross.
Disposition/Personality- outstanding. Confident and outgoing to people and other dogs. Shows deference to older dogs he respects and restraint with dogs he is superior to. Loves all people. Almost annoyingly social when he was younger. Still had puppy in him until recently.

Handle- good and getting better. Walks off lead to bays. He does have trouble not whining when I get close to bays & try to listen for a minute or video. He also needs to get better recall on a missed or busted hog. He doesn’t want to come back and this is a major concern.

Athleticism - above that of most AB’s & Pits I have been around. Explosive when you send him and surprisingly fast for a couple hundred yard bursts. Good ability to wrestle & move with bigger hogs. Good at getting hooked on first or second shot MOST of the time. He can be sent as a 1 out RCD if you get him close and give him a fair shot.

Mouth/Holding Style - not a super hard mouth dog. He doesn’t shake or regrip much and moves really well with hogs.

Gameness- 100%. He is there to stay. He has been tested enough for me to trust him absolutely.

Stamina/Recovery Ability- I’ve caught 5 hogs in 45 minutes back to back to back when it was cool and he never took a deep breath. He has good natural wind BUT he’s not super heat tolerant. I haven’t asked him to catch more than 2 on a hunt since it got hot and I’m nervous every time I send him in this heat. Not bad considering his breeding but not a strong point overall.

Prey Drive - very high. Almost to a fault. He would nail anything that moved when I got him. He’s calming down with heavy hunting & a little age.

His biggest fault is that he will bark every breath on a hog that breaks until he catches or gets outran. He has also really struggled getting hooked on sounders at times. I think all the hogs going every direction just short circuits his mind. Again, he seems to be getting better about not barking and getting hooked with time.

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Shotgun, he sure enough has more pluses than minus's. He is young enough and should only get better.

Thanks WOW. Your knowledge & experience with bulldogs is certainly appreciated by me.


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Here’s a pic of Clyde’s sire, King, waiting to get permission to go to a bay. King has the best handle & temperament that I’ve personally witnessed on a bulldog. Head full of sense and a strong quiet confidence in any situation. He will lay on his belly and wait to be sent a lot of times. He’s a stockier built dog than Clyde with a much broader head & better mouth. If I had a quality female, he would be my sure of choice. Both dogs are in the 70 to 75lb range.

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I think it's harder to find a gyp to breed to that makes the grade. Shotgun I have a little bulldog knowledge but nearly everything I have learned about catchdogs I learned from Thomas. That being said I am going to be trying a male that is about 60# and nearly all Carver blood.

One thing that I think so many catch dogs lack is the ability to think on their feet. Some get better about it with age and that sounds like what your dog is doing shotgun. Some never learn it and that’s hard for me to tolerate too.

Accuracy is a big one. I like my dogs to be under control going in. The ones that take a straight line to the hog seem to break a lot of bays, or get hung up in the brush and wear themselves out trying to get there. The ones that pace themselves and look for an easy route seem to bust fewer bays and get cleaner shots. Big Momma never hit third gear going in. I can’t tell you how many hogs, and I mean sure enough toads, that she caught. Bear was another one. Point him at the bay and let go. If the hog was there when he got there it was a caught hog. Bear was bad built. I believe I could’ve put ran him, but he didn’t need speed because he wasn’t going to miss. In all his years I could probably count all the hogs I saw him miss on less than my ten fingers. I saw Vegas run a complete circle around a little briar patch, maybe 10feet in diameter. The boar was standing in the middle and evidently pushed his way in because there wasn’t a front or back door. When Vegas got back around to me, he stepped back and jumped over and on his way down eared the hog.

I think your dog sounds nice for a young dog Shotgun. I can’t wait to see how WOW’s male dog does. He’s tried a few of his game bred dogs over the years and my favorite was his old Jim dog. I think with consistent hunting and starting earlier than he got to, he might have been a pretty special dog. They have all caught, but some of them have wore WOW completely out going through the brush being so driven.

If you think about it, catch dogs are no different than any other dogs when it comes to working. The best, most consistent ones are the ones that are purpose bred. There dogs from about every breed out there that will catch a hog right. The problem is that many of the ones that do it in non traditional breeds are exceptions to the rule. Therefore it’s harder to get offspring of the same caliber because the pups are usually going to revert back to the average of their lineage. There are a ton of green dog hunters and a great many of them have low to no standards in their dogs. Not because they are dumb but because they don’t have any experience so they don’t know what potential dogs have. They are impressed by the bare minimum and end up breeding dogs that do the bare minimum back to another of the same caliber. Unless they are super lucky, the best they are going to produce are more dogs that do the bare minimum. That’s one reason there are so many culls out there IMO.


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 This is Gator. He is a tall 80-85# pit. I owned his sire Rhino n rhinos mom Honey on one side and his grandmother and great Grandsire on the other side. He is a rock solid catchdog. We like big dogs that can anchor a hog out n the marsh where there are no trees to get up or hide behind if things go south. He has developed a bad habit tho   He started catching on the nose and I believe it is because we sent him in and the Plotts already had the hog caught so no ears were available. Most of the time tho he will be on the ear. Another drawback is his size. When we were putting on the wounded warrior hunt he caught two big boars back to back 75 yards apart. The second boar hit a bleeder and he had to be packed out. No problem tho as two of the veterans packed him out no problem. He will also fetch a ball as long as you will throw it for him and that includes going in the pond. You can’t wear him out.


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That’s a really nice dog Cajun. Do you have a female lined up to put him over?

I have seen that very thing you speak of, altering their “spot” because their first choice is already occupied.


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T dog I got rid of that nice female I had. Didnt want to. I have that chocolate pit and had her when my daughter moved and could not keep Gator so I took him. He was raised in the house for a year. I had sold the female Honey when her son Rhino was old enough to start catching because I didnt need three bulldogs. When I got Gator that gave me three and I could not sell my daughters bulldog so I sold Rhino. I have two of my buddies fixed up with good bulldogs so I am out of the breeding business of catchdogs. Those two bulldogs I have should last me the rest of my hog hunting career.

I see. I remember you telling about taking your daughters dog. I hope these two dogs last a really long time and you still need another catch dog or two.


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Tdog, Ive had a couple full blooded Dogo's. Everyone was funny about people and dogs. I had a rash of breakins at my shop.....and the last was I had was a better guard dog than catchdog for the reasons you stated. 

That said.. My last and best I ever owned was half Dogo half pit. Her momma came out of eat texas. I  really like that. The one on the toolbox. I caught with her till she was 12 and only retired here cause she lost her hearing.

This is my catchdog now., Redgy. He is three years old and had a baptism by fire and caught everything I asked him to. Never caught by anything but the ear.  He is a big jug headed 85+ pound dog. He walks without a lead, goes when told. Comes off when told. All the right things.

Cons,

He is built like a bowling ball with short legs. He is really muscled and I have to watch him in the heat.

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I like the look of that old gyp Cajunl. That male dog looks like a thinker.


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Rip from jitterbug kennels I got him about 3 years ago he was started has the size speed and the go go go and hard mouth I like and amazing around kids and dogs not an inch of aggression unless another dog shows it..the only faults he has that he is straight forward and doesn’t slow down even being on the box always moving side to side wish he could turn it down just a notch…
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Sugar she was started when I got her shes all ear has the heart of a lion… Her fault is she’s a little shy that’s how she’s been when I got her even showing her love she’s still timid on coming to you and the other fault she has she’s lacking a little size but don’t let her small frame fool you

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So I went ahead and made this cross to be able to put my hands on these pups and start them the way I want to I’m hoping Rip can add his size to the pups and the pups have the heart like both parents and I hope I can work on the go go go on them


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When you say he has size, how big is he Maverick?


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This Dagger. I’m tired boss. It’s been a long day.  For some reason Tapatalk is only letting me post one picture at a time. 70# leggy pit that is extremely fast. Straight ear. I owned his momma , his grandmother n great grandfather. He is related to Gator too and bottom. He can jump up on the top of the dog box even with a vest on. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240705/bf06403fd6154973f6ca1430a3be6efc.jpg)


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T-dog he’s easily in a large to xl cut vest and he’s easily pushing 55+ pounds he’s not a short pit he has leg and lungs under him


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Maverick, ole Rip looks like what he is for sure.

Cajun, which one is better, Gator or Dagger? Dagger sounds like my kind of athlete.


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T dog  I usually take Dagger on bike hunts because he loads so good and I have such a good handle on him. In the marsh I have been taking Gator. He can just anchor a hog a little better in that open soft ground. Im still working on him in the handling dept. I wish both of them would slow down a little going into a bay. They are just balls to the wall going in.

Makes sense. That’s one thing this Dogo does well is anchor because he has the leg. I understand what you mean about slowing down. I like the dogs that take their time going in.


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Yes sir t-dog he is the gyp is showing a lot either she’s gonna have a pile of them or pups are big I’ll know in about 20 days see what she has been waiting raise a litter of pits so I’m a bit anxious and excited to see what happens in future

Maverick, Cajun! and Shotgun, Y'all sure have some fine looking bulldogs. Shotgun, I sure like the control you have over your bulldog.

  Our Dogo " OL'Grip", over heated and died a couple of days later, it was too hot to be hunting there were heat warnings out but I went anyway thinking I could get out before it got too hot. Nearly stroked the Plotts and my mule as well, just should have stayed home.
  Grip was a pleasure to be around, quiet at home, zero dog, livestock, or man aggression, used him solo almost explicitly and never needed question if a hog could get loose once caught, catch one in the water in cold weather just hook a rope to him and fish him and the hog out while staying dry, no leash needed, no need to worry about them with puppies running loose either not even at feeding time. Long story short we'll miss him.
  Had his uncle previously same story, he died at 8 yrs old with cancer. Had Grip's mother as well no dog, man nor livestock aggresion but did not use her as much as I had given her to my daughter to replace her bulldog I had gotten killed. Used her enough to see she would catch a big hog and stay  caught while taking a licking then bred her to Chris Scotts Ceaser male and raised Grip.
  I have a gyp pup here now out of Grip but don't like her as well as the other 3, she is pretty hyper and I don't like that, figure it'll make her a lot harder to get to handling like I prefer, time will tell.
  I have heard all the stories about the Dogo's and don't doubt them at all but I have had really good results with those mentioned.

Old man I sure hate that you lost ole Grip. He sounded like a really nice dog. Over the years I hunted with several pure Dogos and a few crosses. I can think of about three that were sure enough catch dogs. I’ve seen a few pure that were bonified bay dogs. The others caught ok but seemed to all have the habit of chewing. They would flat have an ear destroyed in no time. We all know that’s fine if you are right there to leg the hog before it’s one eared or if your eating it. If you are barring or selling them though, it makes it challenging. If it takes a while to get there you may have a bunch of dogs cut up because the ears are gone. To me that was I didn’t like about them. Now the those good ones I spoke of are much the same way you described Grip. Your pups nature sounds like my Apollo dog with the being high strung. He is too around the house or when I go out to feed, but he handles well in the woods. I couldn’t ask him to learn any faster.

I’m glad to see you back on the board. I’ve been thinking I needed to pick up the phone and check on you and then life gives me another something to do. Hope you’ve been well!


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Thanks t-dog, I'm fine just have a lazy key board haha. The only one on the board I know of that hunted with Grip is Cajun, he thought he was okay. He didn't chew ears off, would often be caught deep in the head.  He would pull when caught on average sows. walk backwards toward you.

Hey Clue. Sorry to hear about Ole Grip. He was a sure enough carchdog and sure did the job when you had him out here.

Lol that’s good to hear Old Man.


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I have been working towards these bulldogs I have now for little while took american bulldog that was nice my buddy owned bred to a game gyp raised dark colored gyp from that bred back to her daddy that produced the buckskin male dog I had I called buck he was nice bulldog really to big for what I wanted I bred him to yella game gyp I had that produced the yella bulldogs I have now jr and big moma they are right size I like smart have lot of since at this point if I can't get a bulldog to handle some what I ain't going have it long and I like straight ear dogs I like jr get along with him good he is good about getting caught he is strong and has real good mouth if I could clone him I would just do that every time I needed a bulldog till I couldn't go no more only reason the gyp ain't as nice as him is she hasn't been used like him I used her little more this year and she got better she handles good to

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NLA  big momma is something I sure would love to own on my yard what’s the size of her she looks leggy

Jr got cut low on front leg couple months ago cut everything into he will never be 100% again he gets around on it don't act like it bothers him to bad but it just flops around when he picks it up I will still use him a little come January but not like I have been going try get him bred to couple good gyps and get some more going hopefully

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She is probably 50-55 lbs very athletic dog

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What percentage of American bulldog is big momma and jr I bad with math lol

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I believe 5/8 pit bull 3/8 american bulldog

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NLA me and my old hunting buddy wanna breed his American bulldog gyp in the future to my game male

I had good luck with that cross american bulldog he had was real smart athletic dog probably 90 lbs I would say maybe 85 real good mouth we caught some big hogs with him I will try find a picture of him

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Those are good looking dogs NLA. What size dogs are they weight wise? I agree with you wholeheartedly about being able to get along and handle a bulldog. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240716/f9690aaef5e0d43e01e08ee850227742.jpg)
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These two pictures are Deputy Dawgs old Loki dog. He was about 100 pounds and very athletic. As you can see, he handled really well. This hog is tied and he never once tried to get back on it.

This last picture was Rico. Not nearly as big as Loki but was a nice dog that was very dependable. He was also really easy to get along with and handled real good too.
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That gyp is probably 55lbs male probably 65 lbs they both pretty athletic dogs yea you can't beat a bulldog that will handle like that

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NLA did you do like Jr better than Buck, his daddy, or was it just a size preference? I really like them all. I’d like to have a pup out of big momma back to the American.


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I really like jr size better buck would weigh 85 or 90 lbs both real smart dogs buck produced well I let boy bred him to his gyp that I didn't think much of at all they raised few out of that litter was good dogs 2 males I seen alot acted just like buck

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My buddy lost that american bulldog he quit hunting that's only thing he kept he tracked deer with him he lost him by his house traking a deer for his daddy didn't put a collar on him figured he would just come back home and never did I am pretty sure somebody picked him up but we never found him

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Meet ole trump.  U know we all have em come to us in our hog hunting career.  Or what we Atleast think is our top notch dog.  I know as for me and my son Ole Trump has done passed what we had expected of him.   I had got into this line of dogs over 20 yrs ago.  This litter we kept 2 brothers.  Ole trump and diesel.   There mom and daddy died when they were about 3 yrs old so they taught themselves a lot.  Ole trump had all the best parts of what a cd could be in my book.   He’s 71/2 now along with his brother.  I hope he’s got 4 more good yrs in him like the two legged trump lol.     
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NLA it sucks that he lost that dog like that. I’m sure you’re exactly right about what happened to him.

Highwater, those Dogos look like studs. Are you gonna breed them to try and keep going or are you done with raising pups?


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Dang Highwater, You sure got some shady looking characters in one of those pics. Some good looking catchdogs.

LOL....  them fellers done forgot more about hog doggin than I ever knew man....

T Dog...  Ole Trump got his man hood taken from him back 3 yrs ago due to brucellosis the vet said it was the only way to save him so I bit the bullet and it took away what I thought should have been my sons ticket to top notch Catch dogs in the yrs to come..  We have bred his brother twice but he hasnt produced no where near what I have seen in the last 20 yrs of that blood...  Dont know if the failure is coming from the dam side cause another feller has her..  With two litters failing I dont think Im gonna try that cross again so Im not sure we aint in the same boat when it comes to having to accept mediocre in the future it seems like...  But good things do pop out of nowhere so hopefully my son can hit the jackpot in another line of what I call THINKERS ..  These days you can find alot of so called CD's that are just staring into space like their aint nuthin up there ..  All they want to do is tackle the hog instead of catch it .. LOL..

Man High water, you said a mouthful about the difference in a good catch dog and dud. Best build in the world won't get it done like a smarter dog can.

The next project my goal out of these is just to get something with size and brain power mouth and just a layed back dog that has no human and dog aggression just something me and the boys can train together just watch the process as we grow with these pups boys are excited as so I’m I the future is bright for now…4 males 4 females and yes momma wants to raise one as a inside dog too

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T-dog,Highwater,Wayoutwest yall ever have a catchdog know when hogs were near or can actually wind them at times I pay attention to Rip and when I see he start getting even more hyper it’s usually a hog around we hunt fields with brush and when he does this typically the dogs start to bark it’s crazy just seeing him do that

Maverick, yes we actually took my Gus and a male that T had and walked a trail through some woods until the 2 catchdogs acted piggy and we sent them and they went in and caught a little boarhog.

Yes we have. I like seeing it. It’s neat but it also tells me the catch dog’s mind is in the right place.


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T-dog facts

The idea of the lung capacity is what got me interested yrs ago in the DOGO,,,    Hunting them for almost 20 yrs   I did notice that they didnt get winded to the degree I have seen others have especially in the dead of summer..  We use to hunt some property that was terrible in palmettos ,, the hogs would run bad but the area was sectioned off in small blocks so we used the Dogo's sometimes with them being the only ones on the ground..  They reminded me of cur dogs that I use to hunt as a kid ,, when they would wind and circle you while they hunted..   If  I  wouldnt have been able to stay up with them I wouldnt have done it but since I knew I could get to em pretty quick it was a fun way to hunt when I was younger..  LOL.. I dont want to leave the seat of the bike if the dogs aint bayed now.. HEHEHE..

Having good wind impacts just about every single hog except the first one and if it’s hot and humid enough, it even affects that one. Conformation and disposition are the two things that determine a dogs wind the most. Obviously conditioning can build it too, but let’s be honest, most of us aren’t conditioning catch dogs. We go let them out of the kennel or off the chain and take them hunting. In the past I played a lot of ball with them but these last few haven’t been worth the effort or weren’t interested OR weren’t smart enough to learn the concept very well. Most of that last one was want to I think. A dog that is made right will naturally breath better than a dog that isn’t. I also believe that a lot of that is genetic. Certain families just seem to have great wind. Disposition though, it plays a role in the sense of having the ability and discipline to settle down once they have been taken off the hog. That dog that had to maybe run a hog any distance at all, then stay caught until you catch up, and then is chewing leads and tree limbs, or at the end of the lead pulling and pawing the air while screaming and barking is not going to be good for as many hogs as that dog that isn’t so excitable. The ones that relax and prepare for the next one are usually good for several in a day. I use to hunt a large property for a large company that was covered in hogs. I could only take two other buddies in there along with my son who was a little guy then. Most of the time that meant nobody. One bulldog was all I had and never caught less than a dozen in there. Few years ago we probably averaged 12-15 hogs a hunt during the cool months. Most times we had two catch dogs but not always. They had to have good wind.

There’s an old sports quote that says”fatigue makes cowards of us all”. I agree with that. It also makes us look like dummies. We’ve all seen a better team lose to a lesser team because of conditioning. When they were fresh they were dominate, but when they got tired their out put went down and their decision making got poor. It’s no different in animals. I firmly believe that dogs that push a track really fast take the air out of running hogs. The hogs either get bayed because the gas tank is empty or they made a mental mistake that put them in a bind, a decision made because of fatigue.


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I have a friend that hunts with one or two straight or heavy crossed pits on the ground. They find, catch, relay and hunt out about 300 or so yard loops. He walks orange groves at night or hunts off an airboat and catches and ties a ton of hogs. And some real stud hogs. Most of his good ones live to old age and arent hunted with a vest.

I believe they can do more than most give them credit for.

Nice dogs on here and some good comments. This is my latest project white girl (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240723/f8affe2e44b0e36ea47ce7af9b17295c.jpg)


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Dang Judge, you been holding out on me. She looks the part.

Highwater, have you thought about crossing him to like AB or even a pit? Knowing what’s possible is making it hard for me to accept the mediocre. I have my eye on some dogs but I don’t know yet if they are as advertised. I’m hoping because they really remind me of my old dogs in type. I don’t doubt that they are nice dogs I just hope that they are what I like in a dog if that makes sense.


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Well she is easy to see at night lol


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T-dog these some pictures I took of rip yesterday
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This is Luke an American bulldog from Scott Pugh one of the best layed back catchdogs I can say I owned loved my kids and was easy to handle to a bay wish I had more like him on my yard..(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240724/d836c8ea3343b6bb4d77110894b6a8d9.jpg)
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Maverick did you take those picks of RIP to persuade me to come get him? He’s really put together!

Scott’s dogs are nice. I know of a couple that use to be down this way.


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Hey Maverick Rip is a good looking dog, I bet those pups turn out nice!

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That is the one and only Hoss. I couldn't let this topic go without braggin on Big Hoss a little hahaha. I am defintiely biased when it comes to him. He is 81lb in shape.

He is retired now but he has caught plenty of hogs and did it in style. He is extremely intelligent and has done everything I have asked of him. He is fast and as athletic as you would want. But as much as I like him, he is not without faults. If he is fresh and not been hunted in a while his first couple of catches back he might take a bad line in and just smash the hog, which is fine and will still catch the hog but it puts extra damage on him that wasn't necessary. But when he has been hunted regularly and is rolling he can really put on a show and do some special things.

He showed himself to be very reliable and I can only think of one time where he out right missed, though there was probably one or two others even though I can't recall them. The last one I hunted with that was as good or better was when I hunted with his half brother that Tdog owned name Hondo. Since then I have hunted with a lot of decent dogs and some not so decent but none that even come close to him. What really stood out about him was how fast he was even though you wouldn't have guessed it, and his mouth, man he can crunch and would crush skulls of small hogs and destroy big hogs as well. If you let another catch dog catch with him you def knew which side Hoss caught on.

I have been looking for a top notch bitch to breed him to for the last 3 or 4 years but havn't found anything yet though I am still looking.

My house b&$ch is damn near a spitting image of him Rednose. She is game bred but in my opinion to big to ever match. Bred her once and didn’t raise any to no fault of her own. Thought about breeding her one more time before she gets any older as she’s at that age now I try not to breed. but she has a mast in one of her tits as of about the last 6 months and I’m unsure if I should even try now. Never hunted her as she was acquired to give me piece of mind when my wife and kids are home and I am not. I’ve let her kill a few critters and rolled a few times unintentionally and I’ve been around long enough I’d bet a years salary she’d do anything needed in the woods or betted solo with no gear she’d kill or be killed with no hesitation or signs of quit. Minds well.. common sense and the ability to problem solve. I’ll have to see if I can figure out posting pics.

Hey red nose what’s your make out of?
T-dog just pulling your leg a little hahaha me and the boys been taking him on walks and my favorite part is the boys asking questions dad why you this and that sharing knowledge to the boys is a best thing a father can do

Mav if you go back to page 3 of this thread and look at the post by Tdog with the pics in it, my dogs sire is the red rednose dog named Loki bred to a nice bitch from Tdog's line of bulldogs we kind of lost.

Maverick, your picking is all good. I’m pretty sure everyone on here knows I have a tendency to do it.

It’s a proud time when your kids and in my case, my nephew too, want to know and to learn.


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  Those are some good looking bulldogs. They sure look like they can get the job done.

Man those are some good looking cds


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Thanks William, I sure do like him.