Title: Pit or dogo Post by: hogdoggerdude14 on December 12, 2009, 05:05:19 pm What r the advantages of hunting witha dogo cd instead of a pit cd
cause I want to go hunting with my friend after deer season is done and he does not have a cd at all only a sd and since pits are lighter than dogos i want to get a dog that can tangle and hold a the baddest hog by its self with the sd ofcourse Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: HogzgoneWild on December 12, 2009, 08:03:32 pm just hunt with a dogo/pit cross and your problem solved
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: Bryant on December 12, 2009, 08:25:21 pm There's more to be said for the fight that's in the dog vs. the dog that's in the fight.
More a personal preference...good and bad in both. (and I'll throw in a little personal bias...don't discount the AB) Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: jbhuntin on December 12, 2009, 08:43:41 pm Justin doesn't like any of the dogos he's hunted with. We have an AB and that's what he likes. It would depend more on the individual dog and their personalities really
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: hogdoggerdude14 on December 12, 2009, 08:53:15 pm i try tofind an ab but it seems easier to find dogos and pit
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: Beejay on December 12, 2009, 08:57:09 pm Seems they have a lot of AB owners out there. My question, why do ya'll prefer an AB over a pit?
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: Bryant on December 12, 2009, 09:05:24 pm I can't speak for "ya'll", but for me personally that's a simple question....temperament.
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: hogdoggerdude14 on December 12, 2009, 09:05:45 pm when i look i can barely find any
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: Monteria on December 12, 2009, 09:43:50 pm There's more to be said for the fight that's in the dog vs. the dog that's in the fight. There you have it.... My catch dog only weighs 40lb soaking wet but she is all heart and the only catch dog that I need! Steve Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: HogzgoneWild on December 12, 2009, 11:17:13 pm I think everyone is right about personal preference and/or style of hunting. I have hunted with pits, AB, and currently working on a pit/dogo cross, have seen great dogs from each, but I personally like the pits, just got spoiled by my pit "Red" I guess.
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: redcur on December 12, 2009, 11:46:20 pm Hard to beat a little 40# pocket pit. ;D
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: Eric on December 13, 2009, 12:19:27 am I prefer mixes.... ABxPit, DogoXAB, DogoXPit.
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: La Historia Dogo on December 13, 2009, 04:16:37 pm What do you want out of the dog? All of the breeds mentioned, along with the crosses, are capable of being great catch dogs.
In general, $ for $.......Pit. They'll catch and they're cheap, and easy to get. For me, and I am completely biased. Dogos are all I use(I am not a hunter, just an Dogo enthusiast), and want. I expect my Dogos to be put on the ground and find and catch their own hogs. Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: hogdoggerdude14 on December 13, 2009, 04:42:24 pm What I want is a dog that cand do great things when hog huntin and I won't have to worry about the dog gettin throwen around a getting cut up so bad that it will die
and I thinkin dogos cause they were made to tackle danggerous game and they have no faer Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: kevin on December 13, 2009, 04:57:55 pm What you want, ain't gonna happen.
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: hogdoggerdude14 on December 13, 2009, 05:33:59 pm Anythings possible 8)
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: sfboarbuster on December 13, 2009, 05:50:22 pm What I want is a dog that cand do great things when hog huntin and I won't have to worry about the dog gettin throwen around a getting cut up so bad that it will die and I thinkin dogos cause they were made to tackle danggerous game and they have no faer That is all part of the game. A catchdog reguardless of breed is going to cut or possibly killed on a hog. Yes some are smarter in their style of catching but that is mostly dog to dog, not the breed. Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: hogdoggerdude14 on December 13, 2009, 06:08:00 pm Very true but I need a dog that can hold a pig down until the sd or I get there
keep this in mind the scenario is 1sd 1 cd and a big hog I also. Hear that alot of y'all have pits with a whole lot of heart but if I get a pit that does not have as much heart as y'alls I don't wAnt to have a dog die I lookin for some thing that has enough power weight and strenth to go after any hog and that wii get along well with my family and strangers I am not sayin pit aren't good dogs around kids Pluse my parents are not hunters atall and there those kinds of people who don't like pits and think that all of them are evil Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: Black Gold on December 13, 2009, 06:13:03 pm You cant judge a dog by its breed.....each is an individual and will perform as such. Even in a litter of pups some in the litter could be as different as night/day. Go with what you like as far as breed goes and then try to find one that performs to what standards you have in mind. If you are looking at a pup then the best you can do is choose based off of parent's performance and pray for the best.
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: Monteria on December 13, 2009, 06:42:01 pm I also. Hear that alot of y'all have pits with a whole lot of heart but if I get a pit that does not have as much heart as y'alls I don't wAnt to have a dog die I lookin for some thing that has enough power weight and strenth to go after any hog.... Size is no substitute for heart in a catch dog. It is sometimes nice to have size but the heart is a MUST no matter their size. I have seen a 160lb Mastiff X that people thought was a catch dogs and we ended up having to go back and get my little 40lb pit to close the deal! No matter the size or breed of the dog, IT MUST have the heart! If your first one does not, cull it and get another, and another, and another, until you find the one who will catch and hold till death without a second thought. Anything less may be big and ugly but it aint a catch dog. Steve Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: make-em-squeel on December 14, 2009, 01:29:54 pm My personal advice to you is buy a pit and tell your parents its a staffordshire terrior. The things your expecting to get from a cd have little to do with breed, since you are Green to the sport dont spend money on a dogo until you have been on 50 hogs or so then decide what you want...until then pits are easier to come by and to replace. .02
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: UsHogJoey on December 15, 2009, 03:26:15 pm (http://ushogoutfitters.com/images/8-dogos-ready-to-hunt-wild-boars.JPG)
(http://ushogoutfitters.com/images/pulo.JPG) (http://ushogoutfitters.com/images/cujoe_29104005_std.jpg) (http://ushogoutfitters.com/images/mommas.JPG) i go with the dogos. We have 15 dogos but then we also have a pit that was the badest CD that ive ever seen. But ive never really seen other catch dogs. Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: kevin on December 15, 2009, 03:47:34 pm Why so many dogos?
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: Circle C on December 15, 2009, 03:55:57 pm Kevin,
If one dog is good. 35 is better, and 50 is better than that. ;) Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: UsHogJoey on December 15, 2009, 04:01:51 pm here is some history on the dogos...
http://ushogoutfitters.com/dogo-history.htm (http://ushogoutfitters.com/dogo-history.htm) Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: southsidehunter on December 15, 2009, 04:11:15 pm I just don't know about some of these questions O0. Do you hunt at all, I'm sure you have hunted with buddies see what his doing see whats working for him. No one is going to give you the right answer on this particular question. You will get what's best for you depending on money, their personal preference. Then if you have the money someone is selling out on some good dogs on the dog trade, they are jam up lol j/k. I just don't know buddy ???.
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: hogdoggerdude14 on December 15, 2009, 04:12:22 pm I have seen this vid and done my reasearch but I want to hear first hand experiancesO
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: hogdoggerdude14 on December 15, 2009, 04:15:31 pm I don't hunt very often unfortianally :-[ but I love to hunt when I can when ever I can and my friend don't got no cd just sd
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: Circle C on December 15, 2009, 04:17:33 pm I know this guy that has the best guaranteed catch dogs you have ever seen. There is not a hog that one of this guys dogs can't catch and hold for hours. They never get cut. He breeds them to have skin like elephant hide. You can hunt them in 110 degree heat with 100% humidity, and they never get hot. He sells them finished for less than 100 bucks.
You ought to call him. 512-359-9679 Tell him that BigL gave you his number. Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: kevin on December 15, 2009, 04:21:19 pm here is some history on the dogos... http://ushogoutfitters.com/dogo-history.htm (http://ushogoutfitters.com/dogo-history.htm) I didn't find an answer on that page... Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: hogdoggerdude14 on December 15, 2009, 04:22:16 pm Kind of dogs are they and not tryin to be pickey
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: southsidehunter on December 15, 2009, 04:26:46 pm lol Kevin that was good hehehe ;D.
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: Circle C on December 15, 2009, 04:27:58 pm I don't think he likes to talk about them online. It's better to just call him.
Kevin, ;D Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: Bump on December 15, 2009, 05:10:24 pm doggerdude14....It is good to ask questions and be open minded....but judging from your posts and comments I would recommend not buying a catch dog and gaining more experience and knowledge from lots of time in the woods.
Some of the the things you are requesting in a catch dog are not realistic. If you are looking for a dog to go find a hog and hold it for the strike dogs (then you are looking for a rough bay dog or running catch dog)...either way....that dog will end up getting cut or killed. In my opinion you need to hunt with experienced, knowledgeable people and gain more experience and time in the woods. Then it would be a good time to start with a bay dog and not necessarily a pit or dogo. Good luck! Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: hogdoggerdude14 on December 15, 2009, 05:52:04 pm Thank u I have been told I should ask you about doggin sometimes
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: John on December 15, 2009, 06:13:23 pm dogos ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: hogdoggerdude14 on December 15, 2009, 06:16:04 pm John do u like or hunt with dogos
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: USHOG on December 15, 2009, 06:19:23 pm I think it has more to do with the training that the dogs gets. Most all dogos, pits, and ABs can catch a hog thats what they are bred to do, but not all have been trained to catch correctly.
I run Dogos because they do everything I need them to do, hunting or otherwise. Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: Etxcntryboy on December 15, 2009, 07:14:16 pm I'm like some of the other guys. I like pits cause they are cheaper, easier to find, and all heart.
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: HogzgoneWild on December 15, 2009, 07:29:25 pm (http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr59/hogzgonewild/boarhog2.jpg?t=1260926787)
(http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr59/hogzgonewild/thegang.jpg?t=1260926839) Pits, gotta love em' Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: T-Bob Parker on December 15, 2009, 07:46:56 pm Hey lil buddy most of these dudes are giving you good advice and I'm glad to see you exited but I would say you need to hook up with some guys that will show you the ropes and be prepared to do all the grunt work. I had no places to go and nobody to hunt with when I was 18 and I bought good dogs and basically ruined them, so my advice is find you some good humans first and the dogs will come in a few years. Oh and spca pits.
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: UNDERDOG on December 15, 2009, 08:18:27 pm I think it has more to do with the training that the dogs gets. Most all dogos, pits, and ABs can catch a hog thats what they are bred to do, but not all have been trained to catch correctly. I run Dogos because they do everything I need them to do, hunting or otherwise. What do you call catching "correctly" ? Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: hogdoggerdude14 on December 15, 2009, 08:26:30 pm I call catchin gettin a hog on the ear and hold on until the hog is eathet dead or tied
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: TX HOG on December 15, 2009, 08:28:34 pm just keep an eye on craigslist. get a 100% pure bred pit. let it get fired up watching other dogs bark at a pig, maybe let it watch another dog catch the ear, then cut him loose. be sure to tie the hogs back legs to a tree so the dog will always be taking the hog head on. also, dont let him see a dog catch it anywhere but the ear. then let him catch the hog in a big pen un hobbled, then lead him into a bay until he sees the hog. and BOOM! you have a catch dog.... something to start with anyways. use that dog for a while then you can better decide what you want in a cd. just start with the basics, curs and pits, you're not going to get super dogs when you first start.
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: USHOG on December 15, 2009, 08:38:17 pm a CD should hold a boar by his ear and not fight it.
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: pig snatcher on December 15, 2009, 09:34:27 pm a CD should hold a boar by his ear and not fight it. :-\????? :-\ Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: TX HOG on December 15, 2009, 09:47:53 pm a CD should hold a boar by his ear and not fight it. :-\????? :-\ he means the dog shouldn't thrash and shake when hes on the ear, just hold. Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: Bump on December 16, 2009, 08:35:00 am Thank u I have been told I should ask you about doggin sometimes somebody needs some payback Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: hogdoggerdude14 on December 16, 2009, 05:17:26 pm What's that supose to mean ???
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: cantexduck on December 17, 2009, 07:06:58 pm I know this guy that has the best guaranteed catch dogs you have ever seen. There is not a hog that one of this guys dogs can't catch and hold for hours. They never get cut. He breeds them to have skin like elephant hide. You can hunt them in 110 degree heat with 100% humidity, and they never get hot. He sells them finished for less than 100 bucks. You ought to call him. 512-359-9679 Tell him that BigL gave you his number. Do you really want to open that can up? ;D Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: hogdoggerdude14 on December 17, 2009, 08:34:31 pm ????? ??? ??? ??????? Huuu
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: Circle C on December 17, 2009, 11:15:58 pm ;)
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: Dirtydog on December 17, 2009, 11:23:25 pm hey bump i was told i should talk to you sometime. too. mike says you are a legend. love those 20lb. gatormouths.... :o
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: hogdoggerdude14 on December 18, 2009, 09:58:42 pm Here we go again with the bump thing rolleyes
Title: Re: Pit or dogo Post by: Dirtydog on December 18, 2009, 10:04:08 pm doggerdude14....It is good to ask questions and be open minded....but judging from your posts and comments I would recommend not buying a catch dog and gaining more experience and knowledge from lots of time in the woods. Some of the the things you are requesting in a catch dog are not realistic. If you are looking for a dog to go find a hog and hold it for the strike dogs (then you are looking for a rough bay dog or running catch dog)...either way....that dog will end up getting cut or killed. In my opinion you need to hunt with experienced, knowledgeable people and gain more experience and time in the woods. Then it would be a good time to start with a bay dog and not necessarily a pit or dogo. Good luck! |