EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

Interesting read for comparative purposes:



As wild hogs have spread across the United States, they have developed permanent populations in more regions. Jack Mayer, a scientist with the U.S. Department of Energy's Savannah River National Laboratory in Aiken, S.C., has tracked the spread of the pigs to 44 states.
This chart details where the pigs are located, according to Mayer's research.
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State ... County ... State wild pig population (low to high estimate):
•   Alabama ... All 67 counties in the state ... 90,000-300,000
•   Alaska ... Wrangell-Petersburg County ... 0-100
•   Arizona ... Coconino, La Paz, Mohave, Navajo, Pima and Yavapai counties ... 500-1,000
•   Arkansas ... 60 of 75 counties ... 60,000-200,000
•   California ... 56 out of 58 counties ... 200,000-400,000
•   Colorado ... 16 of 64 counties ... 200-700
•   Florida ... All 67 counties ... 300,000-1,000,000
•   Georgia ... 137 of 159 counties ... 200,000-600,000
•   Hawaii ... Islands of Hawaii, Maui, Lanai, Molokai, Oahu and Kauai ... 10,000-40,000
•   Illinois ... 11 of 102 counties ... 500-1,000
•   Indiana ... 14 of 92 counties ... 500-1,000
•   Idaho ... No information ... 0-100
•   Iowa ... Des Moines, Henry, Louisa, and Muscatine counties; previously reported in Dallas, Delaware, Jones, Linn and Polk counties ... 100-200
•   Kansas ... 27 of 105 counties ... 500-1,000
•   Kentucky ... 13 of 120 counties ... 1,000-2,000
•   Louisiana ... 39 of 64 counties ... 3,000-5,000
•   Maine ... Penobscot County ... 0-100
•   Maryland ... Charles, Carroll and Allegany counties ... 0-100
•   Massachusetts ... Worcester County ... 0-100
•   Michigan ... 67 of 83 counties ... 500-1,000
•   Minnesota ... Big Stone County ... 25-50
•   Mississippi ... 78 of 82 counties ... 5,000-10,000
•   Missouri ... 26 of 115 counties ... 1,000-5,000
•   Nebraska ... Brown, Harlan, Nance, Seward, Thurston and Valley counties ... 0-100
•   Nevada ... Humboldt and Clark counties ... 200-300
•   New Hampshire ... Sullivan County; various sightings over the years in the southern two-thirds of the state ... 0-100
•   New Jersey ... Gloucester County ... 0-100
•   New Mexico ... Grant, Hidalgo and Union counties ... 250-500
•   New York ... Broome, Cortland, and Onondaga counties ... 0-100
•   North Carolina ... 16 of 100 counties ... 1,000-2,000
•   North Dakota ... McKenzie and Rolette counties ... 0-100
•   Ohio ... 26 of 88 counties ... 500-1,000
•   Oklahoma ... All 77 counties ... 3,000-5,000
•   Oregon ... Coos, Curry, Crook, Jackson, Jefferson, Josephine, Klamath, Wasco and Wheeler counties ... 500-1,000
•   Pennsylvania ... 15 of 67 counties ... 2,000-3,000
•   South Carolina ... 43 of 46 counties ... 90,000-280,000
•   South Dakota ... No information ... 0-100
•   Tennessee ... 32 of 95 counties ... 1,000-2,000
•   Texas ... 233 of 254 counties ... 1,000,000-3,000,000
•   Vermont ... Windsor County ... 0-100
•   Virginia ... 6 of 95 counties ... 500-1,000
•   Washington ... Grays Harbor, Mason, Skagit and Whatcon counties ... 100-500
•   West Virginia ... 7 of 55 counties ... 100-500
•   Wisconsin ... 29 of 72 counties ... 300-1,000

SUPRISED TO SEE SUCH A LOW # IN LOUISIANNA. WONDER WHICH COUNTIES IN TEXAS HAS NO HOGS ?

I have a hard time giving any credence to that study. Look at the #'s he provides for New Mexico and Louisiana.....

Interesting comparison none the less.

Steve

What I find to be funny is that we always hear how prolific hogs are, and that they reproduce fast than we can kill them.  70% kill rate to maintain current population, etc, etc...   But for whatever reason, the hog number that has been used and quoted in Texas is 2 million. The same number has been quoted for years...  I guess we just have a static hog population?

Good point, I made the assumption that this was a current publication. Now that I look though, it is not dated....

I don't think they want to know or admit to how many are actually here.  I have been on 1000 acre place and seen with my own eyes nearly 65-70 hogs in an afternoon.  I would bet there are some counties that have 20K plus head in them.

This does not exactly pertain to the original post, but something I figure I would throw out there anyway.


Has anyone ever considered the economic BENEFIT that the hogs create in Texas.

 Now I will never argue the fact that they damage crops, land, etc. and that the hogs area  real problem for farmers and ranchers, hitting them in the checkbook.

But,  think about the number of guns, ammo, lodging, vehicle sales, licenses sold, dogs, dog food, equipment, etc that is spent every year for people to hunt hogs.  I would be afraid to know how much money I have spent on hog hunting alone.

When you look at the entire picture, it makes sense why the state does not want to be involved. From the expense of eradication, to the loss of sales tax income.

I live in LA , they are more hogs than That for sure.

There is no question that the overall economic benefit is equal to, or greater than, the economic loss created by their destructive behavior. In fact, because Texas has no income tax, farm and ranch profits are not their concern. The sales tax generated by hunters on the other hand, provide profit to the state.

The question is who bears that burden.... Only farmers and ranchers loose, which is what keeps doggers and trappers in the woods fighting a loosing battle on their behalf. At least ranchers can sell hunts to mitigate that burden but the farmers cant even come close to recouping the value of their crop loss.

In short, you are absolutely correct. The state is not going to spend the money required to eliminate a revenue generating resource.

x2. i bought a rhino just for hog hunting, a trailer, countless number of leads left in the woods >:(, and lots of fuel plus ive sold lots of hogs which are then slaughtered and sold again

It is kind of funny when you look at LA. It says 39 counties with say 5,000 hogs. That is 128 hogs per county. You LA guys buying that? :D

Then go to Texas... 3,000,000 in 233 counties... 12,875 hogs per county.

That seems a little inaccurate but I might be wrong.

im saying there is more than that in ok

Chris I was just thinking about that the other day. The more I thought about it the less I wanted to know.  ;D

Well since this scientist is such a genius with the knowledge of tracking these pics and counting their numbers, I think we should go get him on the payroll to show us exactly where to start dropping the dogs out at. We should have a 100% success rate if he's so certain about all of this.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

The info for LA is way off, I agree.  Or else we must be chasing them all into Texas!!!!  I do believe most of the time when my hogs break bay, they do run to the west.  Must be something to this. . . .  rolleyes

In my opinion most of these #s are probably 20yrs old some of the states such as La,Miss,Ga,Okl for sure all these states have as many or more than Ala.Heck the city of new orleans out lying area has as many hogs as they say the whole state has. just my opinion. and by the way all 82 countys in the state of mississippi had a signifigant population of hogs 10 years ago according to ms dep of game and fish.

yeah i would think la and ok is way off because theres alot of people killing them up here.The military base at ft sill did a survey last yeah when i worked there and that is fish and wildlife the said they have more then what that count says for the wwhle state and i was there on alot of those counts they have trackers on some sal so they can find and count them so i know that wrong and la definately got more then we do.

Well its not my place that doesnt have any hogs im covered up in pork chops.

I know that a farmer recently shot a feral hog while he was combining corn in Madison, South Dakota. 

Hey Goatcher, our hogs break east, we're sending them right back to you. ;D

I do believe those numbers are wrong for La though.

if those #s are correct some of these guys must have some bad ace dogs (5000in lou. ) thats finding a needle in a hay stack forsure !!