EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

We don't have them down here in Fla (not yet anyway, but with huge snakes, gators, iguanas and who knows what else I guess its only a matter of time,,,). I was curious if you guys that live where there are Javelina's have any trouble with your dogs running and/or catching them.  I have heard they don't get very big but are sure rough on a dog. Just curious if they are a problem when hog hunting out there.

They can be a big problem on a dog!! Have caught a couple with my dogs, first one I got lucky and it was only one which is unusual.  The next one they caught I got my dogs cut to shreds.  There no fun let me tell ya!!

I heard that they will chase dogs and just slice them all up

they definatly have some good cutters on them!!

crackerc dont forget about those skunk apes in Florida I've heard about on the Discovery channel. O0

I guess I havent hunted enough in Javelina country to have any run ins with them yet but the stories I've heard about them have sure have me thinking about them when I do!

I just never see any posts about Javelinas and know they are in the SW USA around Texas. Since they are related to hogs I figured the dogs would get after them pretty regular. They do have some teeth from the pics I have seen. I also heard they will gang up on a dog, so I was just curious if anyone had problems with them.

We have gators, pythons, green iguanas all over south Fla, have 6-8' Komodo Dragons (huge predatory lizards) down in extreme south Fla, and even have wild monkeys up around Silver Springs about 45 mins from me.

A guy I know had a place he could hunt that was in that area. He and a buddy had been drinking (imagine that...) and decided to load the dogs and hit the woods one Sat night. They drove in the gate and he said the trees hung over the road and made like a tunnel you had to drive through going down the woods road into the place. This was about midnight and they had been steadily drinking now.....

He said all of a sudden something crashes down on the hood of the truck, then stands up on two legs and looks at them through the windshield!! His buddy yells "BIGFOOT" and they both bail out of the truck (its still running and in gear...) and run off through the woods thinking Bigfoot was gaining on them the whole time.

It turned out to be one of the wild monkeys (they are about 3' tall and look too much like folks to suit me...) and when the truck ran into some trees and stalled, the monkey went back to the trees. I wish I could have gotten that on video, I would be rich right now....... ;D

funny video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz-rcGXCn0g
I thought they only go to about 60 lbs, i couldn't see one tearing up a dog o bad.

You know those monkeys were used to film tarzan up there, and they got loose. they are called rheses monkes or someting like that.
I have spent a lot of time in the dunnellon /ocala area, never saw one outside of the park, but i remember when they were telling us to stay inside because there was one in our area.
they are known to throw poop at people in silver springs.

I absolutely HATE monkeys. Is it legal to shoot the nasty little SOBs? I would be willing to part with hard earned cash to tree a monkey with some hounds or treeing curs and fill his poop slinging rear end full of No.4 shot.

HAAAHAHAHAHA!

To funny Mark!

Dang machine73 :o
Why are you hating on monkeys so bad? lol.

If you ever get that opportunity I have a sister that would love to go with ya. As a child at a zoo in Florida she managed to crawl under a rail and walk right up to a big monkey cage full of monkeys. All I can remember is her facing us , screaming like she was being gutted, feet flailing like crazy, completely pinned to the bars and unable to escape!
3 or 4 monkeys had reach through the bars and was literally trying to drag her into the cage with them by her hair!!! Funny as heck now but she never forgave those monkeys. >:D

She will probably help you skin them too!!!

Im with ya machine, I hate a dang monkey. Especially them little ones.

They should be legal to shoot. Their not native.

jdjp, a jav will tear up a dog. They will go to a bay if they are in the area and can hear the dogs. Most of the time they run in a pack. They are not really related to hogs, and your not supposed to hunt them with dogs from what I understand, but if you wana try your dogs on them sometime, I deer hunt a place here that is loaded up with them. Usually 14-16 a day. :)

Sorry to hijack...

There is just something creepy about the nasty buggers. They have these hairy wee people-like hands that are always messing with junk. And they have beady lifeless eyes. They remind me of dwarf hairy retarded people on meth.

I work with this guy from Tanzania. He told me back in his village the monkeys would go on a rampage... ransacking everything. Then all the men in the village would get all fired up and go on a monkey killing spree. When they'd corner one and get ready to shoot it, the dang varmints would scream and cover their eyes liek they didn't want to see what was coming. Creepy.

I used to hang out with this guy back in the hoodlum days that told a story about a freaking spider monkey bad-@$$. Don't know if it's true or not but it is a good story. This cat said he had a buddy that owned a monkey that was a straight up killer. The dude took his monkey down to where all the cholos fought their pitts. The guy challenged all that his monkey would whoop a pitts hiney hole. So they threw the monkey in with a dog... the dog clamped down on the monkey's legs... thee monkey started screaming bloody murder, grabbed a stick, and stabbed the dog in the eye over and over until the dog died. Well, I reckon that story is pure BS, but it is enough for me to add fuel to my monkey hating fire.

Seriously, if anyone knows where I could legally go in the states to shoot escaped invasive primates I would be eternally thankful. I figure I would be exercising personal demons and doing the environment a favor. Al Gore should probably thank me.

Sean

Sean

Sorry, I have to do it again... this here story made me laugh until near pooping myself: http://www.mainlesson.com/display.php?author=chaillu&book=apingi&story=dogs

Javelina are not related in any way to hogs other than them both being mammals.  They are more like a big rodent.  Just think of them as Pear Rats.  Pricly pear cactus that is.

Waylon

machine73, I think it will take years of therapy to get you over your adversion to monkeys.......many, many years of therapy..... ;D

But I don't like the buggers either...like I said before, they look too much like folks to me!

The same guy that was in the bigfoot story above, said they took a boat down the river to check out the hunting on the back of the same place. You couldn't drive to the back of the property due to it being wet, so they took a boat down the river to scout for sign on the back side of the place. Luckily they didn't have dogs on this trip....

Apparently they were going down the river, eating a sandwich and looking along the edge of the river for hog sign when another monkey drops from a tree into the boat and starts acting like he is going to jump on them and take the food. Now these monkeys are like 3' high, not little monkeys.

The one guy picks up a paddle and tells his buddy " Watch this". Now any redneck knows those two words usually lead to disaster..... ;D

The one guy tries to swing the paddle and knock the monkey in the water and when he does, the monkey grabs the paddle, jerks it away from the guy and start swinging it himself!! The two guys said they thought they were going to have to let the monkey have the boat, when one threw what was left of his sandwich up on shore and the monkey dropped the paddle and went after the food.

They told me after that they called the landowner and told him they didn't want to hunt his place anymore............ :o

Now these are true stories (I think) that were told to me a few years ago.

Remind me to tell you guys about the 600 lb male tiger that got loose on a 10,000 acre ranch some time............and how he scared the bejesus out of two guys on the ranch!

In my years of hunting javalina here in south texas I have to say they have very poor eye sight but they have a good nose. As far as hunting them with dogs my dad and his buddys hunted them as boys in the late 60s and early 70s. He alllways told me a 40 pound javalina can out fight a 200 boar hog. He told me that they would youse a hound that was not catchy but would just find them, the javalina would actually chase their dog right back to the truck and all you have to do is wait with a loaded 12 gauge.He said if you hunt with to many dogs they would fight it and get cut bad, I try to stear clear of them but I have seen my best dogs cut up pretty good and for some reason javalina bites get nasty! It is aginst the law to run game animals with dogs in texas so I just bow hunt them for sport, they are still fun to hunt just stink to high heaven!

Cracker, yall keep all your monkeys, big snakes, armodillos, and what ever other nasties yall have running loose on that side of Savahna river.  I dont want them. ;D

Folks here get riled up enough over the elusive, non existant black panthers we seem to be over run with.  An old boy came in a local store the other day swearing he tried to run one over in the truck near by.  When asked how big it was he held up his hands to about the size of a big house cat. rolleyes

hey cracker i would like to hear to story bout tha tiger

Funny stories!!  Just one question, how did your dog Monkey get his name?

Well it isn't because I hunt around Monkeys !!  LOL

When he was young he hated being in a pen and would make the weirdest noises...he sounded like a Monkey. My neighbor actually asked if I had a Monkey in a pen, as he could hear him screeching and making weird noises.

That and the fact that he has an underbite and the old timers used to say they were "monkey jawed" when they had an underbite.

Between those two things it just seemed like he was meant to be named Monkey!

Knew a guy with coonhounds that treed about a dozen of them dang monkeys in the Ocala National Forest. I am surprised the bears aint ate all of them out there yet. ;D

My Cuz told me about a place called monkey road in Athens TX. Supposed to be some escaped medical testing monkeys there?

Good Lord, I just read this post was thinking that it was gonna be species specific discussing Javelinas, Turns out this is a monkey haters Thead!

seriously, the javelinas are mostly in South Texas and Hill country area.  My brother-in-law was out hog hunting and had a run in with some and had a major vet bill. The dogs still wear the nastiest scars you ever saw from that run in. Those pear rats can bend in half unlike a hog, and get a dog that has them by the rear end. Longshot can tell you a couple funny stories about Jagd terriers and Javelina in culvert.

I, for one, really want to hear a funny story about jagds and javelinas. Hoping one day soon to have an amusing story of my own... about jagds and monkeys. Dirty little buggers.

Sean