Title: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: hogslayer6 on May 12, 2010, 08:49:18 am Been hunting now for about 10 years and always wondered why people dont eat boars. I've eaten them for this whole time and have yet to come across one that tasted any different. and to aliviate the question I have kill some large ones and from cotulla all the way to Oklahoma line. So why is it you guys are either killing and leaving or barring a hog just cause of the way he tastes? Is it personal preferance or just result of "folk lore"????
Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: Mike on May 12, 2010, 09:00:22 am It's not folk lore, i've smelled and tasted several that were rank. I used to take guys from work out all the time, they always wanted hogs. And of course they would bring some to the shop for everyone. Lots of times them bigger boars the meat smelled like piss and tasted like it too. Yes, they were gutted, skinned and iced properly... I usually did it.
Now, all of these came out of the piney woods. I've never experienced or heard anything bad from boars in other regions, mainly grain country and cattle country. So i'm assuming their diet has a lot to do with it. Once you've smelled or tasted a bad one, you won't forget it. The old timers have always said to cut a chunk out and through it in the skillet. If it stinks... feed it to the coyotes. ;D Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: waylon-N.E. OK on May 12, 2010, 09:15:58 am There not fit to eat up here if there on wheat pasture. If the boar is 150+ he is dog food or we just leave them for the critters no matter of what they have been eating because the odor is tough to get past
Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: firemedic on May 12, 2010, 09:52:44 am Most of the hogs we take are from GA and feed on crops...peanuts, corn and soybeans. We killed 125 hosg there this year and they all were as fat as mud,.....could be due to a lot of peanuts being grown this past year, but I've never seen the hogs in this good of a shape. 5 of those hogs were big boars....200+ lbs. had one that was over 300 and they all tasted fine from what I heard. I got some meat from most of them and it was fine, but I do agree that they can taste bad at times.
Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: hog428 on May 12, 2010, 11:35:00 am In Hawaii you would be looked down on if anybody found out you were wasting meat There are many ways they use to remove the boar smell and taste The Philippines prefer a vinegar adobo flavor NOT FOR ME!! Hawaiians Treiaki or soy sauce and Houle [WHITIE] hahah barbecue brown sugar glaze The most common way to cook is by smoke house My kids like many in hawaii were raised on hogs When you catch a fat hog and your smoke house is pumpen you get allot of people stop-en by
Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: Bump on May 12, 2010, 11:49:12 am I like to cook them in the sun...they always get eaten...even the big stanky wild boar hogs ;)
Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: make-em-squeel on May 12, 2010, 12:54:44 pm I have cooked alot of east texas boars with no problem, but when you get a bad one it will clear the house out no matter what you season it with......
Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: FireWater on May 12, 2010, 01:32:23 pm Last year (Deer season), I shot a 75Ibs Boar… I told my dad I would cook the hog that night for supper thinking it would be good… My father informed me that the hog would stink and be no good… We all know how sons follow everything there fathers tell them… Put the hog on the pit and it looked good – 3 hours latter my god you could smell it a mile away (Skunk smell)… You would think as much corn they eat at feeders the meat would not be that bad – I was wrong… Now we kill them and leave them… However, buzzards seem to like them…
Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: makenbeans on May 12, 2010, 02:43:09 pm I hunt south florida alot of pasture, swamp, pines, oaks, and we only have ran into a couple stankers.
Best way to cook hog in my opinion is a smoker. Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: Randy_P on May 12, 2010, 02:44:38 pm If the gland that is behind his sheath is cut into it will completely contaminate the meat. If this is removed without cutting into it you will be fine. Only ones that have stunk the whole house up while cooking have had the gland cut into. Just my .02
Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: BigAinaBuilt on May 12, 2010, 02:48:15 pm Bleed your meat well and get it on ice asap! Fire up the smoke house!
Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: Cristina on May 12, 2010, 02:49:44 pm I have cooked every boar that has been brought home and I only had one that I did not like the way it tasted. I usually chop up small pieces and put it in the pressure cooker, after 30 minutes dump that water and add new water in a new pot, then season it with tomatoe sauce, potatoes, bell peppers, comino, oregano, onions, garlic, black pepper etc, and it always comes out fine. Not saying that there is not a boar that tastes bad but I also think a boars age has a lot to do with it. Could also be the cook too ;) ;D
Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: S_J_KENNELS on May 12, 2010, 03:14:20 pm IHO I think the hogs diet has alot to do with it. I have even had sows that smelled and tasted like crap that were caught after grain season when they are eating the mesquite beans and such. I always tell the folks who want the hogs from us, when they do want them that is LOL, to leave them on ice for about a week before cutting them up. This has seemed to help some.
Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: miahogger on May 12, 2010, 03:29:03 pm here in mississippi,the big ole boars all taste like they smell if he stinks dont eat them.small boars under 120lb sum taste ok but i just keep them ole sows my 2cents
Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: LAredneck on May 12, 2010, 05:37:03 pm me personnally i dont waste anything. Had a few boars that were musky. I soak them in ice and salt for bout 2 weaks and they taste fine to me. just spray the salt of with hose pipe and put in freezer.
Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: hoghunter59 on May 12, 2010, 06:05:55 pm Ive killed several boars that stunk one 310 lb boar, ground the meat up and made smoke link sausage with all of them. The best you ever ate, no smell, no bad taste.(http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz340/rrlhoghunter/c6109d92.jpg)
Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: outlaw14slayer on May 12, 2010, 06:36:22 pm When I was fresh out of high school I made about 100 pounds of sausage out of a big boar. You couldn't be in the house with it while it was cooking! I was obviously pissed that it was not edible. I did a little research to find out what the problem may be. A boar has a preputial diverticulum (pouch) that is dorsal to the piss hole. The diverticulum accumulates urine, secretions, and deal cells which contribute to the typical oder of a mature boar. It is easily removed prior to skinning. If the diverticulum is properly removed the meat will taste no different no matter the size of the boar. After figuring this out I have had no problem with the taste of a boar. The reason boars get a bad rap is the diverticulum in located on the midline on the belly, exactally where people typically cut to remove hide and guts. Once this pouch is cut the contents easily come in contact with a significant portion meat. You are not going to be able to wash it off, it is the culprit on giving boars a bad rap.
Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: 3-Bdogs on May 12, 2010, 06:36:45 pm i think it has to with your own taste buds some ppl have stronger taste buds
Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: 5G ybmc on May 12, 2010, 07:25:46 pm When a sow is in season she will stink when cooked.
when a boar is running a sow he will stink no matter size or age. :) Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: 5G ybmc on May 12, 2010, 08:13:00 pm I have have raised & hunted yellow dogs for 29 years now.
dogs always was known as double G . after my 2 boys. now i have 5 grand kids so now they are 5 G. Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: buddybegone on May 12, 2010, 08:21:43 pm try rock salt,vinegar,and baking powder on any wild meat to take the smell and blood away we soak ours 3-5 days pouring the bloody water off usually works except when they are with sows in heat. sows are the same smelly meat when in heat.
Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: Peachcreek on May 12, 2010, 08:44:16 pm i was told by my old as dirt uncle to as soon as ya kill them cut their junk off as soon as they hit the ground. I take the nutz and wien off while the nerves are still twitchin. if the boar is pretty big 200+ i soak them in icewater, vinigar and limon juice for 3-4 days draining the water out each day and adding ice. i have never had a smelly one after i started doing this.. but before them boars would stink up the whole house. the old timmers know a thang or two ;) ;D
Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: BarrNinja on May 12, 2010, 10:38:03 pm I can smell boar meat cooking from miles away!
My wife met me at the door crying years ago as I was driving up from work. She demanded to know what kind of meat I had in the freezer! I had some boar meat in the freezer from a huge boar hog some friends of mine had processed after we killed it on a hunt. I had intended to feed it to my dogs but the wife had a roast in mind. You could smell the stench in my house for weeks! We shampooed carpets, replaced door mate, and painted walls and you could still smell it! You cant tell my wife it is just folk lore! lol. People have been castrating hogs for centuries for good reason. ;D Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: jojo on May 13, 2010, 02:43:07 am the stankiest boars ive had where the smaller ones in the 75 to100# range but have eaten many bigger boars that have tasted fine, if it stinks when you kill it it will stink in the pot. Some times i can smell boar in store bought pork and cant eat it when people who dont know any diffrent dont notice it , i can smell a stank boar a mile away yall eat up O0
Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: Bump on May 13, 2010, 10:35:20 am When a sow is in season she will stink when cooked. when a boar is running a sow he will stink no matter size or age. :) x 2 Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: parker on May 13, 2010, 02:44:01 pm some boars are rank some ain't ..... i think it has s omething to do with his breeding ....if he's worked up he'll be ranker ......
i was at the sale barn one time gonna buy a big tame sausage hog .....from up on the cat walk we was looking the hogs over .... a fella walks up says you looking to buy a hog ....i said yes i am ..... he said me too ...... he said i may buy that listed one right there i said its a boar .... i mean it had froth running out his mouth going up and down the pen ata sow on the other side ....... he said yeah i know its a boar .....he began telling me how an old man told him how too clean em where you can't tell ......he said ican tak e that hog right there put him i my trailor and let him calm down tonight ....he said right fore daylight i'll ease out there with my 22 he said while he is bedded up in the trailor i'll ease up and pop him ......he said soon as i do that i'll hurry up and strip all the flank parts out all the way to his seeds and take them out too .....he said he'll be good as a sow .... i said an old man told me one time if you take a stick and prop there mouth open soon as you kill one and have a piece of water hose about 2 feet long handy ....he said hurry up and stick the hose in the hogs rear end and blow hard as you can.....that fella looked at me funny he said what does that do....... i said i figure just about as much good as what you was told to do .....if he's rank he'll be rank.....although cooking over wood is better than boiling a gravy on a boar....to many sows for me to worry about eating boars .....its barrs and sows for me .... Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: bayberry13 on May 13, 2010, 02:59:33 pm When I was fresh out of high school I made about 100 pounds of sausage out of a big boar. You couldn't be in the house with it while it was cooking! I was obviously pissed that it was not edible. I did a little research to find out what the problem may be. A boar has a preputial diverticulum (pouch) that is dorsal to the piss hole. The diverticulum accumulates urine, secretions, and deal cells which contribute to the typical oder of a mature boar. It is easily removed prior to skinning. If the diverticulum is properly removed the meat will taste no different no matter the size of the boar. After figuring this out I have had no problem with the taste of a boar. The reason boars get a bad rap is the diverticulum in located on the midline on the belly, exactally where people typically cut to remove hide and guts. Once this pouch is cut the contents easily come in contact with a significant portion meat. You are not going to be able to wash it off, it is the culprit on giving boars a bad rap. Even though outlaw obviously wants his 50 cents for the vocabulary usage, I'll have to agree with him.Cut a 6-8 inch diameter circle around the penis then clean it and you'll never be able to tell the difference at the dinner table. It doesn't matter how big either..not trying to be a big shot, just done it and seen it done about 50-75 times over the last 3 years since I learned the trick. Great tip!! It absolutely works!! Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: Cristina on May 13, 2010, 03:04:20 pm Cut a 6-8 inch diameter circle around the penis then clean it and you'll never be able to tell the difference at the dinner table. It doesn't matter how big either..not trying to be a big shot, just done it and seen it done about 50-75 times over the last 3 years since I learned the trick. Great tip!! It absolutely works!! I forgot to mention that we do this after we catch a boar. Cut the penis all the way down and cut the nuts off ;D. Then we gut it. I thought everyone did this ??? Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: parker on May 13, 2010, 04:39:32 pm not trying to start anything but ..... how does cutting a dead boarhog help .....? thats just common with field dressing a boar to cut and strip it ..... we owned and operated a fedral inspected slaughterhouse ....... though we didn't butcher boarhogs the deer hunters would bring em in ......and all were stripped with the field dressing ...... but i can tell you this soaking in water or vinegar or whatever you do will not insure an eatable boarhog .....
Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: 3-Bdogs on May 13, 2010, 04:58:17 pm i have to agree with parker
Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: HIGHWATER KENNELS on May 13, 2010, 05:31:59 pm My daddy always told me that there was a time and a place to do everything.....and eatin a boar hog with his jewels still left in him Aint the rite time...Like Parker said I will stick with the barrs and sows I aint gonna try to eat something that the smell sometimes takes my breath away when you go to leg him in that tree top Ha Ha
Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: bolo on May 13, 2010, 08:06:40 pm You might cook him on a ceder plank& throw the boar away& eat the plank! Every once in a while, i'll catch one with 1 nut,the other is inside.If you bar him,he will still smell & taste like a boar when you butcher him.When I find one of these "rigs" I don't cut him,i kill him or give him to somebody for a baypen hog.
Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: Peachcreek on May 13, 2010, 08:50:34 pm Parker that story had me goin.. Pretty funny right there. I have tasted the boar stank on bacon at ihop before and no one else could taste it. I stand firm in my uncles advice about cutting the wien and nuts off as soon as ya kill em. he said the testostarone {or however ya spell it} starts pumping threw the hogs body so the quicker ya cut off his junk the better he will taste. A good sharp knife and the junk is off in 30 seconds. I have done probably 20 boars this way and all were good. The next one I might get a hose and run it up his ars and blow to try out parkers therory. ;D :o
Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: outlaw14slayer on May 13, 2010, 10:08:29 pm Cristina- I rarely gut a boar. Usually don't keep the ribs. I just cut down far enough to get the tenderloins. Unless your keeping the ribs there is really no point in gutting one if you can otherwise get it clean relatively quick.
Parker- I agree that cutting off a dead hogs nuts doesn't help, but I am positive (even though my slaughter house is not certified) that if you remove the diverticulum (pouch full of stuff that makes a boar smell like a boar) prior to skinning prevents contamination of the meat. Hogs that have not been casterated that are sexually mature do produce androstenone and skatole that are stored in the fat surrounding muscle. This is one reason for the casteration of commercial hogs. I grind virtually all of my hog meat and carefully trim fat. This may also contribute to my lack of problem with boar edibility. Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: KDB on May 14, 2010, 07:33:15 pm If the gland that is behind his sheath is cut into it will completely contaminate the meat. If this is removed without cutting into it you will be fine. Only ones that have stunk the whole house up while cooking have had the gland cut into. Just my .02 x2 thats how we do it and they taste fine Title: Re: Not eating Boars?????? Post by: bayberry13 on May 17, 2010, 05:13:25 pm Hey, Outlaw here is some FYI that u may find interesting!!
Androstenone is found in high concentrations in a male pig's saliva. When a female pig that is in heat smells this, she assumes the mating stance. The vameronasal organ is the auxiliary olfactory sense organ that is responsible for the detection of pheromones as more than just an odor. Which basically acts as an aphrodisiac! Too bad humans lack these sensory cells needed to detect pheromones beyond smell. :-* Also, the reason why people both smell a boar's smell and have two seperate, distinct discriptions is the fact that there are genetic differences in our OR7D4 receptor, which detects the chemical. People that possess two proper genes for OR7D4 tend to describe the odor of the steriod as a urine smell, where those with only one proper genes tend to describe it as weak or not able to detect it. Sorry, I think I got off track a little...thought some of ya'll might find it interesting?!?! |