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any one have any success at a split litter?

had it happen on accident never actually tried to plan one though

I would like more info on it as well I have been considering it on a young pit gyp.  Bird dog and a greyhound x dogo cross for the sires.  Any thoughts?

mine actually was with a mountain cur as the female then a pure ybmc and a pit as the 2 males basically mine came out some were the mountain cur and pit cross and then a few the yella dog and female cross wouldn't say i seen any pup come out a combo of all 3 but it might be possible Idk about that end of it though

If you are serious, WOW!!!!!!!!

You can not have multiple sires for the same pup.  ONE DAM X ONE SIRE

yes each pup can only be from one or the other sire...when choosing the dogs to breed in my case 2 pure bulldogs but wanted to throw in a hound or cur.i would be able to tell wich were wich..you see if you threw in another  bull breed you may not be able to tell without dna test who is your daddy so it would have to be a completly difefent breed/type.

no that's what i said each pup only had one or the other for the sire none were mixed i didn't know if some how they could somehow to sperms could share a single egg didn't think it could butt wasn't goin to state somethin i didn't know about

One sperm meets one egg.  There is no way they can be mixed.  There would be some wierd creatures running around if this was the case.  WAIT...there are ;D  and Im not talking about wild animals

ya guys im sorry earlier i wasn't using my head when i posted and it could happen but you would end up with a simease pup its so far from ever happin though :) but wasn't thinkin properly that's why i shouldn't be on my phone and on the tractor at the same time lol

maybe thats what happened to all those he-shes down on montros, ;D 2 swimmers in one egg

lol prob so i still cant believe i had that brain fart earlier today been a helluva a day but i guess everyone has those every once in a while

i cant say much on split litters i hade it happen once but it was not on purpose
from what i have read and from what i have been told when it happens  there are two horns one on each side if  you have two dads one impregnates the left and one the right. im no vet but that’s what i have been told

And for the ladies on Montros  I know and have hunted with some you would be amazed how fast they can run in heals and how good a shot they can be  ;)

This is still not the case.  Just a little repro lesson, not to be mean or to make anyone mad.  Only one ovary ovulates at a time and in litter bearing species (hog,dog, ect) the ovary has many more follicles which release eggs than in a one or two offspring animal.  This process of multiple follicles releasing eggs is mimiced when a high producing cow is flushed.  In the process, hormones are given to superovulate the cow that would maybe normally only drop a couple eggs now forms many follicles and drops maybe in the vicinity of 20.  These eggs are fertilized and then flushed out seven days later.  This same process of split flushes can be done, but in the end is more trouble because the embryos or calves out of this kind of flush would then have to be DNA tested to make sure which mating it truely is.  Doesnt hurt to learn a little every now an then now does it.

 so you had some pups with one sire and some with another sire in the same litter? ???

correct sir

what if the pup looks exactly like the mother--dna testing would be the only 100% way to determine the father...wouldn't it?

i was a inturn at the local vet way back when i was in high scoo. my family use to breed beagles and the neighbor had a weenie dog. when we had 3 beagles and 4 weener dog-beagle mixes i asked him wtf. he said the dam drops maybe 6-8 eggs and it may take several breedings to fertalize all the eggs.... so the ole weener slipped in and there ya have it. ;D ;D he also explained that only some small pecetage of sperm contains the baby batter the others are like little warriors to fight off the sperm of another male, to give every male dog that breeds some sort of a chance of having offspring... so it is posible to have more than 2 sires over a litter. this is just what i was told, he seemed to know all about it or he lied perty good.

Correct.  You can have multiple sires to a litter but each pup can only be sired by one male and the female.  No mixing of sires. 

yep thats got to be it. heck we both see it that way so it got to be true ;) ;D

I have split several litters. I will check the female daily and when she is in standing heat I will breed her the next day to dog #1, second day dog #2, third day Dog #2 again. Not saying this is the best way just what has worked for me in the past. I would like to hear how others have done this as well.

From what ya'll are saying I have been wrong my whole life. But I was always told that is why dogs hang up with each other to prevent other dogs from sire the pups. I don't know.

guess that would work if they stayed hung up for the whole time she was in heat >:D ;D

 Ok guys this is a pup out of a split litter.

 So think this over and come up with a comment on how this came about.

 Bill

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looks like a brindle cur to me??? ??? i have a cat pup from my last litter that i kept.  she has a perfect line down the middle too. it was a very controlled breeding of my two catahoulas

Here's my split litter bred my my red cur to a blk mouth and brindle bob tail cur i got lucky and got four and four I wanted pups out of both males because there such good dogs most brindle pups came out bob tailed and i docked rest of litter
four simular to this one
 
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four simular to this one

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