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Title: Just curious, who's run their dogs on other big game? Post by: Noah on August 22, 2008, 09:28:00 pm I've had the opportunity to run bear twice.... getting smoked(and whooped) both times. Who else has tried their hog dogs on other "big game"? I'd love to turn in to a cougar, jaguar, grizz, or polar... just haven't had the oportunity yet ;)
Yet another reason I need to get me a set of plotts..... Title: Re: Just curious, who's run their dogs on other big game? Post by: Wmwendler on August 22, 2008, 10:20:59 pm Cows.......Some that are every bit as wild as most feral hogs.
I Would like to start my Curs on Cats, but they really dont have the desire to cold trail enough to do much hunting in big cat country. Might have to spend a week looking for a cat track hot enough to put them on lol. It Would be allot of work to get some bred up that would cold trail a big cat. If you are interested in that kind of stuff read a book called the Ben lilly legend. Its all about hunting Black bear, grizly and panthers with dogs. Waylon Title: Re: Just curious, who's run their dogs on other big game? Post by: aussiedogger on August 22, 2008, 10:25:13 pm i met a fella that used staghound/pitbull to catch scrub bulls.
Title: Re: Just curious, who's run their dogs on other big game? Post by: Wmwendler on August 22, 2008, 10:37:20 pm i met a fella that used staghound/pitbull to catch scrub bulls. Seems like a horse and a rope would be easier.......What did he do with them after he caught them? Waylon Title: Re: Just curious, who's run their dogs on other big game? Post by: Noah on August 22, 2008, 11:13:52 pm If I'd had a different bulldog last wknd, I'd a turned him into a rouge bull that kept baying in swamp bottoms. The horses couldn't get close enough to him and every time I got in on foot he'd break and run... I could've at least got a rope on him to drag him out. I just couldn't ask my cowbroke CD to do what needed to be done.... although I know she'd of done it if I asked.
Title: Re: Just curious, who's run their dogs on other big game? Post by: clint on August 22, 2008, 11:16:27 pm ive seen on boardogs.com where some guys caught some bulls and tied them alive and tied them down on the back of there trucks :o
Title: Re: Just curious, who's run their dogs on other big game? Post by: jdt on August 23, 2008, 12:34:24 am yeah, clint i ve seen on tv where they d run up beside them in a truck and have an arm come down and clamp em. them trucks would sometimes reaLLY GET A LOOTA AIR under em before they got em caught. i d give my best friends right nut to be in on one of them deals.
we always rope em n tie em down then have to lead em to a truck or get the truck to them . Title: Re: Just curious, who's run their dogs on other big game? Post by: Silverton Boar Dogs on August 23, 2008, 12:52:15 am I use my dogs on cattle alot, I would guess 50/50 cattle/hogs. We catch alot of wild cattle out here and that is more of a rush than catching big hogs. The biggest bull(horned Gert) we have bayed, roped and loaded weighed 2,653lbs at the sale barn, he was 6 yrs old and had never been in a set of pens.
Some pics (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e103/pwt3/IrvinRanchShiping035.jpg) (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e103/pwt3/IrvinRanchShiping057.jpg) Title: Re: Just curious, who's run their dogs on other big game? Post by: aussiedogger on August 23, 2008, 05:54:08 am in australia we have bull catchers.... (old utes with tyres fixed all around the outside.) they run the scrub bulls for a while then nudge em with the ute to make em fall over then guys jump off the ute and hold em down and tie em.
Title: Re: Just curious, who's run their dogs on other big game? Post by: matt_aggie04 on August 23, 2008, 10:11:19 am Paul,
I swear you need to sit down one day and just make called "my pics" and lets see what it is in that vault of cowboy pictures you have. Having been in that county I find it pretty amazing that you can rope and tie down a full grown cow/bull and get it out. I feel like I have done something when I catch a 200+lbs hog but it doesn't take but a few of these pictures to bring me back to reality haha. How far do you have to drag cows like some times to get them in the trailer? I could see that being a whole nother set of problems. Matt Title: Re: Just curious, who's run their dogs on other big game? Post by: Silverton Boar Dogs on August 23, 2008, 10:53:47 am Matt,
I allways tell the young men on my crew to "think" before they rope. Leading cattle out of the brush or rough country to a trailer takes alot of time(time that you could spend roping more cattle) but there are many efficiant way to get it done. Thats half the trick to catching wild cattle, only rope them when they are in a spot that is easy to load from. If you trust your dogs you can allways get them held up in a better spot and catch them there, and spend less time leading them out. I also have have a old 4wd Dodge cummins and a half top with a 12k winch up front, that I can drive anywhere, that really helps. We catch alot of cattle at night under the full moon, they don't run as bad and honer the dogs better in the dark......It was not much of a jump from this to hog hunting....HAHAHA Glad you like the pics. Paul T Here's a few for Matt from last month. (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e103/pwt3/July1508003.jpg) (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e103/pwt3/July1508005.jpg) (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e103/pwt3/July1508007.jpg) (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e103/pwt3/July1508013.jpg) Title: Re: Just curious, who's run their dogs on other big game? Post by: TT on August 23, 2008, 01:22:38 pm ive always wanted to do wat u do lol its awsome our cattle u just gotta push with the horses or at sum plases just shake a bag of cake and thell folow
Title: Re: Just curious, who's run their dogs on other big game? Post by: matt_aggie04 on August 23, 2008, 02:27:39 pm Thanks Paul! Keep em coming I sure do like those pictures.....nice trailer you got there I might add.
One day I WILL own one......This one belongs to a man that bought it and has never hauled an animal in and is wanting a larger trailer. Only problem is he wants what he paid for it which is a little out of my price range ;D (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f277/matt_aggie04/BrandyPuppiesPigsJackTrailerBigD-1.jpg) (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f277/matt_aggie04/BrandyPuppiesPigsJackTrailerBigDead.jpg) Title: Re: Just curious, who's run their dogs on other big game? Post by: clint on August 23, 2008, 02:32:42 pm them are some good pics paul,, thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Just curious, who's run their dogs on other big game? Post by: WestTexasCurs on August 23, 2008, 02:56:47 pm Hard to beat an Easley.
Title: Re: Just curious, who's run their dogs on other big game? Post by: Noah on August 23, 2008, 04:53:32 pm Good pics Paul, you ever catch with dogs?
Title: Re: Just curious, who's run their dogs on other big game? Post by: Silverton Boar Dogs on August 23, 2008, 06:09:39 pm Yea, this is a pic of one of my RCD's (ridding catch dog) Jake, he is real rough and we have to break him off once he gets ahold.... :D :D
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e103/pwt3/IrvinRanchShiping147.jpg) (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e103/pwt3/IrvinRanchShiping152.jpg) (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e103/pwt3/IrvinRanchShiping156.jpg) Title: Re: Just curious, who's run their dogs on other big game? Post by: aussiedogger on August 23, 2008, 06:42:39 pm thats awesome! ;D my dad use to do a lot of mustering in some rough country when he was young and he said they'd just throw cows and inject em with this drug that made em just follow the horse like a zombie....
Title: Re: Just curious, who's run their dogs on other big game? Post by: txboardog on August 23, 2008, 08:48:20 pm I run Hogs ,Bear and catch cattle with mine . but I dont use the same dogs for cattle that I catch hogs and bear with. I will be heading to the mountains around Sept 20 to go bear hunting. I agree with silverton boar dogs on catching wild cattle ,I get just as excited when catching cattle as I do with bear and hogs.
Title: Re: Just curious, who's run their dogs on other big game? Post by: slimpickins on August 25, 2008, 10:51:37 am Paul wrote : "4wd Dodge cummins and a half top with a 12k winch up front, that I can drive anywhere,"
He ain't lying either!!!! At times we've both had to convince the other that the rig won't fit or if it does, how we gonna get it out of there? ;D Title: Re: Just curious, who's run their dogs on other big game? Post by: txboardog on August 26, 2008, 05:13:07 pm Oh yeah iI almost forgot about two months ago I went out to Benjamin area and put my cow dogs on 48 hd of buffalo that got out of a high fence and dogged them through two pastures back in to the pasture they came out of. We didnt know how they would work but they bunched as good as dog broke cattle there was a bunch of calve and the cows really bunched and came togather from all over. when we kicked the dogs on them there was only about 20 that we could see and the rest came togather right there .
Title: Re: Just curious, who's run their dogs on other big game? Post by: Wmwendler on August 26, 2008, 05:46:33 pm Oh yeah iI almost forgot about two months ago I went out to Benjamin area and put my cow dogs on 48 hd of buffalo that got out of a high fence and dogged them through two pastures back in to the pasture they came out of. We didnt know how they would work but they bunched as good as dog broke cattle there was a bunch of calve and the cows really bunched and came togather from all over. when we kicked the dogs on them there was only about 20 that we could see and the rest came togather right there . Thats cool.....I've always wondered about buffalo. I had a hunch they would bay like cows but never seen or heard of it to know for sure. I'd bet you that Cape buffalo would do the same thing. U said you dont use the same dogs for cows and hogs. I was just curious why that is if you dont mind me asking. Waylon Title: Re: Just curious, who's run their dogs on other big game? Post by: txboardog on August 26, 2008, 06:53:45 pm Waylon , it was pretty cool the buffalo would run at the dogs and grunt almost like a bunch of hogs it was pretty funny. When we kicked out on them we just sent two dogs to kind of feel them out and see what they were gonna do. I was thinking they might just run like hell but they bayed real nice and once they got togather we sent a few more dogs in and got them out to the road then my dad and my son folowed in the pickup and sent more dogs when the others got hot it worked better than alot of cow gatherings ive been on. All of these buffalo were wild as buffalo get they just run wild on that place so we didnt know what to expect . I guess thats why they handled so good with the dogs instead of being spoiled or somthing like alot of the cows that need catchin. To answer your question .
I hog hunt alot of places that have cattle everywhere and I dont want to be baying up cows when im hunting. and when Im catching cows I dont want to be catching hogs. When I had dogs that would go both ways it seemed like they would bay the opposit of what I was after.ha ha It is just alot easier for me to keep two sets of broke dogs. I hope those buffalo get out again cause I would like to take a camera along and get some good pictures. Title: Re: Just curious, who's run their dogs on other big game? Post by: Wmwendler on August 26, 2008, 07:24:03 pm I'll bet them having calves on them helped a bunch and they were not spoiled like you said. Cows may seem stupid most of the time but some of them figgure it out pretty quick. Yesterday we had one that did not want to go to the house, but she waited till we got them right up to the wing before she broke and we were committed to pushing them through it or loose the whole bunch, and the dogs did not bring her back so we let her go and the dogs bayed her for about an hour down in a draw. Maybe that taught her a little lesson.
Waylon Title: Re: Just curious, who's run their dogs on other big game? Post by: jdt on August 26, 2008, 09:59:22 pm neat deal, ive always wondered if buffalo would bay, or if they would just run through the dogs. it makes sense though, for hundreds of years theyve been bred to get in a bunch and put the calves in the middle.the ones that didnt the wolves pulled down and eliminated from the gene pool.lol i always wanted to rope one just so i could say i did. that is until i got a call to go catch 2 beefalo steers that weighed about 1600 a peice. they were the rankest ive ever caught, fast, and mean. they split and ran as soon as they saw us , all 3 dogs stayed with one and he went 3/4 of a mile before we got close enough to get a rope on him. ive roped alot of bucking bulls but not a one that was as stout as that one. tied him down and went after the other one , found him in the edge of a thicket and run em out towards the truck , when we got him caught i t was 50 yds to the trailer and i was glad! we left the other one and lead him out the next day, had to cross 2 creeks and go through a briar thicket. he had been at least 30 hrs without a drink and after all that he was still just as bad , crippled 1 dog cathing him and flipped a horse down in the creek leading him out. that evening he weighed1630 at the barn. dont really care if i never get to rope a buffalo after thatlol.
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