EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

 Alright, lost one of the pure black ones last night, still have 10 strong and growin' though!!!

Now that they've got some color, looks to be about half are a "blue" color with tan trim.... Much better than all black!

Several look suspiciously brindle, several full black and tan as well...

Shiner's instinct has kicked in hard, tried to take a grab at me earlier... and wouldn't be persuaded otherwise :o  ......... She's real lucky I like her so much ;) ;D  Keepin' 'em inside until they get some strength up, then to a kennel... hope it increases my survival rate!!

Shine and the new team!
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm192/aprilcmetzger/044.jpg)

"Blue and tan" male
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm192/aprilcmetzger/050.jpg)


Tail bobbin' day tomorrow!!!  ;D

Great looking pups Noah...Hope they do good for you, I know you got high hopes for the cross

Congrats Noah, is Shiner a long range dog?and what about the Pops?

Good lookin pups!

Lookin good my friend- lookin good!!!

wow thats quite a crew, please keep us posted on their progress.

They look good Noah, they would look even better with their tails left ON....... 8)

 Noah, those are some really nice looking pups. Can't wait to see the brindle ones color develope. It must be puppy season because we have a littler due pretty soon also.

Thanks yall!  Raider, Shine is long range for my standards... she typically makes half mile loops until she gets on sign and rolls out... on her bad days a mile or three... try not to hunt her with long dogs as I don't want a dog that'll go that far!  Her outstanding quality is she's just a flat out hog finding machine.  One of those dogs that when they make it through a block without jumping... there ain't no hogs to be jumped!!!

One of those "busy" dogs, to the point I have to watch that she doesn't over do it...  She's got a real good nose, but has yet to show me much cold tracking skill yet, hopefully that will fill in more in the future...

The defenition of a lead dog... From 3mnths old and on she's just always known what to do, by herself, she just wants to find and bay a hog.  I remember taking about six pups, all 2-3 mnths old, to the woods when I first started working with her.... she up and left on a game trail... took me 20 minutes to finally find her, still trailing in the palmettos!!

She's a very intense dog, one of those "genetically programmed" hog dogs, she flat out HATES one!  ;D

Silverton.... tails are bad for beer!!! Nuff said!!! ;D

Now for her main fault... she's got a lot of catch bred into her... put her with a catchy dog and bad stuff happens


As for the father... He's a cow dog and grove dog.  Hunted by hisself always, the man basically uses him as a "send to and shut it down" dog.... Drive through the grove, see a hog slippin' and send the dog to it... pretty much a 100% stop ratio if he gets to the hog the first time.   LOTS of bite, will pull the hamstring out of one that won't take a bay... but WILL NOT CATCH!(This was one of my prerequisites for a stud)

Don't know about his hunt, he's been trained to stay on the truck and be sent.... but when he gets to scent he'll sure-e-nuff take it.  Range... also an unknown, the way they hunt the dog has to shut it down or be called back to maximize efficiency of working a grove...

He's owned by a man that's got a real good eye for dogs, and in his words "he's just the fastest dog I've ever hunted"... even made his owner question his traditional CD style as the dog tends to shut bad hogs down so quick, one walk in CD can have his hands full with such a fresh hog and no help...

I've never had any trouble finding hogs, even with my shorter range dogs... so I ain't too worried about losing anything with the cross.  Only hoping to increase stopping power....  time   will  tell.....

Good looking pups. Good luck with them.

good looking dogs noah,keep us posted on the progress.

i'm tickled for ya bud !! have got a comfortable couch ?    it may take me a couple days to pick one out ;D ;D

x 2  ;D
You can always send them trashy looking solid black pups to Texas Noah! I dont think they will be a good fit in Florida anyway.  O0

Goodl lookin pups and I like your reasoning for breeding. Sounds like a good match and I hope they work out for you.

I can't wait to see how they grow up and perform for you.  I know you must be crazy excited.  ;D

good looking pups , best of luck with them !!

Noah, nice healthy looking pups so far, are you sue they are gonna be black?????????? maybe the flash on the camera reflecting back but it looks like some sable color in there?????

Why crop tail? the tail has a stering function to the dog in high speed...

Do natural bobs have issues steering?

Awesome looking pups...if your not fond of blue feel free to ship him south lol.  Nothing kike the anticipation of a planned litter...hope you have awesome luck with them!   

All of our dogs are bob tailed and 3/4 naturally (with the exception of CD's).  None of them have any balance or steering issues and a few of them are in the 70lb range.  It is a lot quieter in the dog box and no bloody tails...plus to us it just "looks better".

I cannot edit on my phone, so please excuse the back to back posts.

Our puppies are bobbed if they aren't naturals when they are young and they donot have balance issues...we have one dog that has a nub because the band was placed too short and manuevers great (he is also the 3 legged one).  I have always been told you cannot bob an older dogs tail b/c they are already used to balancing with it BUT someone dispeled that as a game dog rumor on another post out of their own experience.

Man, I've been around too many top notch, fast as hell dogs to think that a bobbed tail might affect anything... I had my Ellie dog bobbed at 6mnths by the vet, and anyone that ever got to hunt behind her would tell you she was flat out fast...  no steering problems there at all  ;)

My Snappa dog is a natural bob tail, and is as athletic dog as I've been around, moves more like a circus cat on a high wire than a huntin' dog...

Tails just aggrevate the chit out of me... always knockin' kids down(I can't tell you how many times my daughter has asked me not to let Shiner hit her with her tail...), making racket in the dog box, making racket on the palmettos when on lead, and most importantly.... knocking beers over by the campfire!!!  ;D

Not to mention they just look cleaner with a bobtail!   :P

Anybody need any puppy tails?   :D

Noah we smoke everything here in Texas, send em on down here

I will take the puppy and tail. ;D ;D