Title: Cut vest? Post by: JandAoutdoors on July 22, 2010, 12:40:33 pm Need to know the best kind of vest pple use during the hotter parts of the year to help keep ur dogs cooler. I usually just run Cut Collars but my best dog got cut and then another after that so i just need some suggestions..thanks
Title: Re: Cut vest? Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on July 22, 2010, 12:52:43 pm L3 breast plate
Title: Re: Cut vest? Post by: Silverton Boar Dogs on July 22, 2010, 12:56:50 pm L3 or Duncan breast plate for me. Can run it all summer.
Title: Re: Cut vest? Post by: NThoghunter on July 22, 2010, 01:08:40 pm devastator cut vest from ugly dog are light weight and open top. my cds seem to do fine in the summer with them ;)
Title: Re: Cut vest? Post by: Silverton Boar Dogs on July 22, 2010, 06:02:32 pm I have two devastators, but the L3 runs about 50% cooler in my opinion.
Title: Re: Cut vest? Post by: Lone Star 88 on July 22, 2010, 06:03:39 pm Devastator wet it and go.
Title: Re: Cut vest? Post by: TCB-Vince on July 22, 2010, 07:36:25 pm Duncan for me. You can buy them from L3 or bristle buster. Best breastplate I've seen! I run them on all my dogs. They keep cool and can swim in there great. Also Duncan and a little pocket around the heart to let air in. Dogs aren't like us. They don't get hot all over there body only the head an heart. L3 did alot of testing on this. I just order a new one for my pup. I'll get some pics up when I get it for ya.
Title: Re: Cut vest? Post by: graydog on July 22, 2010, 07:47:12 pm I have used Ugly Dog products and like them. I'm not familiar with L3. Could someone give a website or contact?
Title: Re: Cut vest? Post by: cantexduck on July 22, 2010, 07:54:28 pm www.greatesthoghunterever.com I think is the website for L3.
Title: Re: Cut vest? Post by: TCB-Vince on July 22, 2010, 07:57:01 pm Www.l3outdoors.com
Title: Re: Cut vest? Post by: TCB-Vince on July 22, 2010, 08:03:21 pm www.bristlebuster.com.au. They sell them cheaper but the shipping gets you unless there running the special on free shipping. You can custom order them with colors and also you can get the garmin adj. On the collar which is cool. You can see it on L3
Title: Re: Cut vest? Post by: graydog on July 22, 2010, 08:50:22 pm Thanks. I believe we met them at Hallettsville a few years ago. My buddy bought a ridgeback x bulldog cross from them.
Title: Re: Cut vest? Post by: Noah on July 22, 2010, 08:59:23 pm Better bay dogs = cooler catch dogs...
If I was sending my CD's from 500yds to an uncertain bay, then I'd opt for a plate style vest... but I like to get close, turn in, and get-r-done... CD don't have much time to get hot that way. I'll stick with a full vest to better protect my "short duration" catch dogs. Title: Re: Cut vest? Post by: TCB-Vince on July 22, 2010, 09:22:58 pm The breastplate are just like full cut vest. So they have just as much protection as an American cut vest. And I agree I need let my catch dog run miles anyways.
Title: Re: Cut vest? Post by: mradel on July 22, 2010, 11:00:24 pm www.greatesthoghunterever.com I think is the website for L3. what just cant help your self? I think you will like Duncans plates and the site is www.L3Outdoors.comTitle: Re: Cut vest? Post by: uglydog on July 22, 2010, 11:16:42 pm Wild Boar USA - KEvLar is the best material for a catch dog, Wild Boar USA has it in a a couple versions, can get in regular length or shorter version which is what I am using right now with this heat the Kevlar in a short version.
Here is the Short Kevlar link - http://stores.intuitwebsites.com/WildBoarUSA/-strse-114/D.-UGLY-DOG-3-fdsh-4/Detail.bok Here is the link to the Devastator, the lightest/flexible vest of all - http://stores.intuitwebsites.com/WildBoarUSA/-strse-91/J.-DEVASTATOR-KEVLAR-VEST/Detail.bok Title: Re: Cut vest? Post by: Circle C on July 22, 2010, 11:34:27 pm The breastplate are just like full cut vest. So they have just as much protection as an American cut vest. And I agree I need let my catch dog run miles anyways. I am not sure I understand this statement. Are you saying that a breast plate has the exact same protection as a catch vest? Seems to me that everything is a.tradeoff , breast plate - nominal protection, cool running. Catch vest - maximum protection, hotter than breast plate. I can see where each has its place, but I can't see where one is better than the other in all applications . Title: Re: Cut vest? Post by: Silverton Boar Dogs on July 23, 2010, 12:39:05 am Chris you are correct, but I look at it a little different. I own and have used 4 different styles of Uglydog vests. I own and have used 3 different styles of breast plates. So I think I can speak from experience of using both types.
Breast plates are designed for big leggy dogs with good holding style. Part of the protection is in the ability of the dog to move very well and the dog stays cooler while caught for long periods. I would not say the protection is "nominal" I would say it is very good. A full vest does offer more "coverage", but it is much hotter and limits the dogs ability to move. For a dog to be athletic it needs to be able to spread its elbows without restriction. That is a problem with most conventional small leg hole vests. This coupled with the dogs body being bound up limiting lateral movement of the spine creates a situation where the dog "needs" the full coverage because he can't move well enough on a bad boar to keep his feet and/or position. Also the dog is working against the boar as well as the vest at times and this increases the work load for the dog and creates more heat. Each of us needs to evaluate our dogs size and holding style coupled with how we use them and in what conditions. Then pick the best protection for the dog. Brest plates are not for every dog, but to dismiss them is a mistake they are/can be very effective protection. I have had fewer cuts to my catch dog while it was wearing a breast plate than I have had while they were wearing a full vest, as well as a drastic reduction in problems with heat exhaustion. Title: Re: Cut vest? Post by: TCB-Vince on July 23, 2010, 01:26:37 am Well Silveraton said it all. Duncan's breastplate seem to be longer then any of the other AU breastplate out there. And I'm sure you can order them longer but I wouldn't see why you would want or need that. I run breastplate on all my dogs bay dogs to catch dogs. And the reason I run them on all of them is cause it doesn't hinder any of the movernment with any of my dogs so that being said I run these instead of just a cut collar. Since I've been using them for the last 6 months I don't think I'll ever change back.
Title: Re: Cut vest? Post by: mex on July 23, 2010, 06:24:29 am I gotta say x2 with Mr.Paul.My Dogos finally can move and be protected with L3's plates.Bar none the best I have ever had.
Title: Re: Cut vest? Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on July 23, 2010, 07:51:02 am Good post Paul. I think you explained it very well. I have used both, and really like the overall performance on the breast plate that Josh sent us.
Title: Re: Cut vest? Post by: Bump on July 23, 2010, 09:40:10 am Better bay dogs = cooler catch dogs... If I was sending my CD's from 500yds to an uncertain bay, then I'd opt for a plate style vest... but I like to get close, turn in, and get-r-done... CD don't have much time to get hot that way. I'll stick with a full vest to better protect my "short duration" catch dogs. What he said. I use the Guardian Kevlar from Wild Boar USA. Walk or drive my catch dog in close as possible with vest in hand. Vest up and send in. Unvest again after the catch. |