EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

ok guys and girl , imhaving a little trouble shuting down the swine right now, this is a little about how its been going , oi went on a dry run for around a month , well these past 4 i got on a few the dogs would have a good solis bay then out of no where the hog hit and run so i thought if i just ran my gritty dogs that it might help keep em slowed down for the cd's to deal the deal but tht didnt work either so i need yalls help has this been happening to anyone else , and what have you done to slow 'em dwn and get them caught?

You said you went to gritty dogs and that hasn't worked.  What were you running before?  If gritty/rough isn't getting it done, try going the opposite direction...loose dogs.  Its amazing how hogs started to bay up for us this summer when we went from 4-5 dogs to 2-3 loose dogs.  The hog kinda thinks he's winning when 2-3 dogs are barking at him but won't get close enough to bite.  Put one dog in the mix that gets up on him and tries to pull hair.....its off the races.  It might not work in some situtations but its worth a try.

We're having the same trouble. We found that running only one loose bay dog tends to do best. We've tried a pack of ten dogs together, running catch dogs, nothing seemed to work. Everytime one dog would bay, the hog would stay. As soon as another dog got there, the hog was gone and never looked back. Started running one dog, and lead in catch dog. Have to be quite and don't spook the hog on your way in. If the catchdog misses, kiss the hog goodbye. Don't know if this will work for you, but worth a try.

 It deffinately seems that we get outrun more in the summer time. Im not sure if it is because the dogs cant deal with the heat as well or if it is because there is so much more undergrowth in the summer. I can't wait for it to cool back down. Our dogs seem to do much better in the cooler months, JMO.

Cull Buck makes a great point, when the ruff dogs are busting bays go to a couple of stand-off kind of dogs and you might see a difference

Been being out run a bunch this summer. I don't think their is a right answer for that question. I think the closest thing to the right answer is run dogs that don't do nothing but catch no bark at all. When they see a hog they catch. I think I am fixin to get me a couple.

hillbilly got a point i  been catching hogs with my gritty dogs all year but they are real gritty

i've always  bayed  more  hogs  with  one  dog ......we  went a  couple  weeks  ago  turned  out  ona  good  track dog  bayed  about 500  yards .........when  all three  got  there  it  was  my  sons  old  dog  and  his  young  dog  and a  friends  young  dog ....well the young  dogs  haven't  had  there  issue  yet  and  they  bay hard  ...too  hard ......they was  getting the  catchdog  ready  i  said  boys  they  fix'n  to  have  to  eat this  one  are  he;s  gonna  leave  here .....aboutthat time  hush .....5  miles  later  one  dog  threw  out  of  the race  and  finally the  old dog  bayed  a sow  and  the  one  young  dog that was  with  him  was  burnt  down  enuf  he  baye d like  he  is  supose  too ....anyway  we  ha d to  get a  boat  to  get  there ....my  son  started  to load  his  young  dog taht  got  slung  out ...i  said  no leave  him  here  in the truck  lets  catch this  one  it was a bout 3 pm  by then a nd  hot .....so  we went d own  river a  mile walked  in 500  yards  and  caught that  one .....

the  problem  with  one  dog  is  the  catchdog better  be a  good  accurate  one ....

I believe it depends on the type of hogs your puttin your dogs on but i dont think there is a right or wrong answer to this either.I have hunted with both rough and loose baying dogs and here lately ive caught more with loose bayin dogs on a running hog place which is totally weird. So try both. If its a small pig they should catch it no matter what anyways. So use your best judgement on it.

take one or two loose bayin dogs and walk in dont use four wheelers thats what i do and we do good

 It's always beter to use 1 or 2 clean baydogs that wont touch a hog unless the hog starts to run. But when everything is so growed up in the summer an spring it's a must. And have two good legie catch dogs that dont miss and get close as you can before you cut them loose.

thanks for all the advice everyone , i've only been doggin about 4 or 5 years and this is honestly the first year i've had this problem, but next time i gwet to the woods ill be sure to let ya'll kno how it went , Thanks!

Got to have the right kind of gritty... some gritt pushes.... some keeps a hog sittin' down... I've got both  ;D

We have been havin problems stoping the hogs also and my buddy and I start to run the loose bayin dogs and we get the hogs. When we run the gritty dogs the hog just want to run and run.

Like Noah said, there is two kinds of gritty... if a dog is gonna act gritty he better go head and latch on and stay on, if not this new breed of hogs we dealin with aint gonna put up with gettin hit while hes tryin to bay, its off to the races for him.  Dont feel like you are the only one tryin to figure this puzzle out though, its tons of us tryin to find a group of dogs that will let us catch EVERY hog we get on... And if it makes you feel better, I aint found it yet.. But I have both type of dogs and if I come up on the rite hogs and I have the rite dogs that day, well... I just luck up. ;)

alright guys got a little up date , i finally been catching some hogs since trying some of yall help ill post pics and stories tomorrow if i can figure out how to post more then one pic lol , thanks

alright guys got a little up date , i finally been catching some hogs since trying some of yall help ill post pics and stories tomorrow if i can figure out how to post more then one pic lol , thanks

alright guys got a little up date , i finally been catching some hogs since trying some of yall help ill post pics and stories tomorrow if i can figure out how to post more then one pic lol , thanks

THIS IS JUST MY OPINION.....THE WAY I HAVE SEEN IT OVER THE YEARS IS.....IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN GRITTY DOGS YOU NEED TO RUN ALL GRITTY AND A FEW OF THEM(5 OR MORE). I PERSONALY RUN LOOSE DOGS AND I HAVE RUNNING CATCH DOGS WITH LONG LEGS...RIDGEBACK AND A CAT...SO WHEN YOUR DOGS BAY(AND DONT TRY TO PUT TOO MUCH MOUTH ON THEM THEY WILL KINDA PUT UP A LIL FIGHT (INSTEAD OF RUN) THEN IT ONLY TAKES THE HOG PUASEING FOR YOUR CATCH TO BE THERE(BECUASE THEY ARE ALREADY ON THE GROUND) BUT THEN AGAIN OUR DOGS YIP ALITTLE (IF THE HOG BREAKS) AND IT HELPS THE CATCHDOGS STICK WITH THEM....WE HAD A GRITTY LIL DOG IN OUR PACK ONCE AND SHE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT WOULD JUMP IN AND TRY TO PUT MOUTH ON(ALOT OF MOUTH) WELL SHE WASNT VERY BIG AND COULDNT HOLD HER OWN AND OUR OTHER DOGS WERENT GOING TO JUMP IN TILL THE CATCH GOT THERE.....EVERY TIME WE WENT OUT WITH HER ON THE GROUND THE HOGS WOULD BREAK BEFORE THE CATCH GOT THERE. SO WE SOLD HER TO A GUY THAT RUNS ALL GRITTY DOGS AND HE LOVED HER. AND OUR DOGS DO JUST FINE  NOW.....ITS BEEN A LIL WHILE SINCE WE GOT OUTRAN BUT IT HAPPENS TO EVERYONE SOMETIME OR ANOTHER....GOOD LUCK AND HOPE ALL THE INFO EVERYONE IS GIVING HELPS!

I have got a female plott that would do good then, she got whooped up pretty good twice last year by a bear (12 months old) and wont get within 20 ft of boar or bear but will stick all day, just waaaaay back.  LOL!!!   personaly i dont like it at all, and she is currently on the cull list, as soon as i find a replacement. ;D

Look at it like this if one or two guys got you backed into a corner your prolly gunna try to hold you own but if 4 or 5 got you backed in that same corner you prolly gunna be lookin for a way out.....but if they all bail to you n get a holt you are well a wooped ass...

 four or 5 gritty dogs work good in the winter when the weeds are down. South Texas is around late Dec. to late March. At nighttime it seems like a full moon also works in the dogs favor. Once the weeds are thick and the weather is hot then 1 or 2 loose baying dogs work well with a walk in catch dog.

I have never seen a herd of hogs bayed by gritty dogs but have seen it with loose baying dogs.

I ALSO HAVE MADE THIS OBSERVATION... It seems that some bay dogs have a mindset to push the hog but there are other gritty cur dogs out there that have the desire to want to stop the hog and then bay tight and not put their mouth on the hog unless it breaks bay.

Dogs are at a big disadvantage in the summer because when the hog breaks bay it heads for the thickest jungle and it will keep running in the thick underbrush and the dogs can't keep up. If enough gritty dogs catch up the hog might or might not get caught.

im running very rough dogs bark twice and catch we ben running 200 yrds and shutting down. these dogs dont bite and let go they catch but we caught 2 boars and iv got 3 dogs cut up. but we caught hogs.

thanks guys i have a new update , catching swine again !check it out