EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

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THAT IS JUST F-IN B.S. WHOEVER DID THAT NEEDS TO BE STRUNG UP A BIG OAK IT TAKES A SICK PERSON TO DO THAT TO A DOG I FEEL FOR THE BOY WHO RAISED THEM I COULDN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO DISCOVER THAT I HOPE THEY CATCH WHO EVER DID IT AN PUT THEM IN PRISON FOR THE REST OF THERE LIFES .... THANKS FOR SHARING THIS IT BLEW MY MIND WHEN I READ THAT

That takes one sorry person to do that to them dogs and that family, hope he gets what he deserves

That's horrible. It take a really screwed up person to do something like that. I really hope they catch them and they get the maximum sentence.

Tall tree and a short rope.....

That is just a shame, people are truly sick when they do stuff like this.  I can't help but think about some anti doing this with the way the dogs were killed being similar to way a hog is harvested with a knife etc.  Very disturbing and gruesome...

Who ever did that has a beef with that family! shouldnt take long to figure out who did it. I hope they catch them before something more serious happens

great minds think alike

 just after circle c posted a thread of dog thiefs, now we got dog murders. i think in this instance, the law would have to put me in jail for repercusions to the Aholes that did that if i got my hands on them. i think bambo slivers under the finger and toe nails and electroshock their genetals and cutting off their eyelids would be a start for them but still wouldnt hold a candle light to what they did to the dogs and family.

AMEN now everyone knows why we pulls guns and ask questions later

Oh for the days of the past,.....when someone did such a thing and you found out,....you just shot 'em and it was done.

Whoever did this probably wouldn't hesitate to kill an inocent human being... >:(

if they wouldnt hesitate to kill then as millerlite said, Shoot First Ask Later

They better hope the law finds them before the owners do...

Amen brother

I really feel for the family I had two poisoned and to this day I still get poed and it happened two years ago.  Hope they catch the aholes

I don't know those folks, but if it were my dogs, that would most certainly be the case.

     Cowards like thats wouldn't have the balls to fight something that can defend it's self

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I agree! I dont think it was a random crime at all!

OH HELL NO!!!!!!!! This ain't shooting a dog thief. This is shooting a sicko! I would have no problem shooting that piece of trash!

I agree with that ... someone was pissed that boy had them dogs and not them

Im gonna be honest. I would kill the sorry mother F-ers. Screw calling the police, and screw sending them to jail. I have had a dog get shot. I went right down the road and found the boy that did it and drug him over the gate a cominced to whoopin his azz. I do not play that game. Who ever did that is one sick sob. And it is prob someone who hog hunts. Prob mad because he cant catch no hogs. Oh and my dog didn't die. Two shots from a 40 cal and was hunting two days later.

My thoughts exactly !!!!!! hope they catch them soon

Hope it was not another hog hunter we all ready have a bad name should not have happened at all just senseless

 from what iv heard and seen, hog will eat nething rite? well them boys happened to run up on a roag man eatin boar and OOPS they got eatn. wouldnt even be a trace of a bullet hole.OOPS did i say bullet hole ;D

 That is beyond sorry. I hope that there is a special place in hell for people like that. >:( If those were my dogs, I would be sooo upset, that I would dedicate all of my spare time to finding out who those sorry @*$&@)(# are and make them pay dearly.

There is a special place in hell........

i beleave eye for eye tooth for tooth hang up and cut there organs out and watch them do the quiver shake. no shooting them thats to fast let them die slowly

 a gsw in the lowwer intestinal area take a long time to bleed out and internal bile will mix into the bloodstream and start a severe toxic overdose in the blood sys and is very painful and can take up to 30-60 min to die from it. if they pass out from shock make sure u got salt or rubbing alcohol and pour it in the wound, it will wake them back up. techniques i learned from my dad who was a PJ in the AF and an SF friend of his during NAM.

my concern is with the family ,seems like it was personal . someone this twisted could come back .. keep them things loaded !!!good luck!!!

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Remind me to never piss you off!  :o

 i do hold grudges for an extremely long time but depending on what pissed me off depends on the severity of the payback they get, and i give back 10folds of what was done to me.

lol that aint not shyt lmao but hey im not hatin on him  someone did that to my dog i'd blow there feet off so they had to be known for guttin dogs and have to live with the fact they are a p.o.s. and will never walk again

Information noted!  ;)

If something ever happens to my dogs I am calling you and Nickjones for advice!

lol thats funny shyt

 i do contract my time for things but for dogs issues dependin on the severity of it, i wll do it for free. lye and water do wonders on flesh and bones and dont leave much to strain through. may need a coffee filter to strain the remains through to find nething

 :o ??? :-X

I hope they find the pices of $hit that did this and they hammer there A$$

x9999999999999999999999999999 i would rather them be caught and publicly displayed so everyone knows they are worthless dog guttin p.o.s. and have to rott knowing the rest of the world knows who they are and what they did

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After five years dealing with the misfits of society i had the same thought when reading this.  I have seen alot senseless number 2 and this rates right up there.  The boys fixin fence aint on the small side i say let them "discuss" this with those responsible before the law gets there.

After five years dealing with the misfits of society i had the same thought when reading this.  I have seen alot senseless number 2 and this rates right up there.  The boys fixin fence aint on the small side i say let them "discuss" this with those responsible before the law gets there



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On a positive note i have to commend the hog dog world.  i got ahold of Mr. Cryer a moment ago becuase i wanted to offer up one of my puppies to his son, and although he was very very thankful for me calling and offering anything i could, he said his son has been offered dogs by over 30 different people as well as other things.  He seemed to be speechless about the amount of calls he has recieved.  I felt bad i was late on the call but geez people good job out there.  If that doesn't say enough about the hog doggers out there then i don't know what else we can do to prove we are good people.  GREAT JOB. 

Now thats good to hear.  It shows sportsman stick together.

Wow! That really is good to hear! This is why I had my doubts about the perpetrators being true hog hunters in the 1st place!

That is really great to hear. Does anyone on this board know the family personally?

I cant say on this forum what I want to say! So I will leave it at that!

Omfg that is insane

sorry sob.... after they catch him they should put a hog hide on him and let a pack of pissed off catchdogs loose on him.

i hope to hear the rest of the story

idk why but this topic here just gives me chills everytime i read it .. its just sick really

x2 that is absolutely heinous  >:(  I say an eye for an eye .... they should string them up - hope they catch them and I'm sorry for the family's loss...people are just SICK these days :(

 


that aint joke  the world is turning to shyt

That beats all i ever seen, if people still got hung in the streets i bet stuff like this wouldnt happen, i hope and pray they catch them and im srry for that family

killing a pos is easy  now making that same pos regret the day it was born for the rest of its life  now thats another story
Dr Pepper time in my book
 strip and stake the  sorry pos and pour Dr Pepper all over the body and let the fire ants at them for a couple days
 or better yet tie them to a 55 gallon barrel stripped ,pour a lil sow in heat  on thier tail end  in a boar pen
 a new meaning of squeal like a pig
      my .02
      Dexter
 and ill give the youngin a pup also
 let it be said time for a lil redneck justice

Them people need to have done to them what they have done to those dogs you dont mess with a mans dogs.

Dexter I vote u for president that is just ingenious

lol ya that an we need to get some bamboo and cut it at an angle and water it with miracle grow an let them hang about a foot off the ground by there hands cause they say that stuff grows fast and ya ... lol that would suck

dexter for president popo popo

I bet this one gets solved quick!  Too personal for it not to be.  This is a good reminder that there are plenty sick f-ckers out there.  Maybe sh-t like this wouldn't happen if we culled a little harder.

Jail is way to good in my opinion

You know, It is sad to say but my dogs are my family and this story really tears my heart. I cant imagine what I would do if all my dogs were killed like that. I can't imagine it! TO THE FAMILY,,Iam GRATELY SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS! I don't have but 4 dogs and need them very badly but If i had some that I was selling, I would damn sure give them to you to get started again. I know they cant be replaced but its just the thought that counts. Again I am truly sorry.

Now the man that did this, you know who you are, you are probably reading this post, you are a sick SUMBICH!

HEY GANG ,THIS IS A SCREWED UP DEAL FOR SURE! JUST LOOKIN AT THESE POST IN SUPPORT OF A FRIEND AN FELLOW HOG HUNTER IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF HOW PEOPLE ONCE WERE AND SHOULD BE AGAIN.ONE DAY THE GUILTY WILL BE FOUND, AN JUSTICE OF ONE FORM OR ANOTHER WILL BE DELT, IF THE COLPRIPT IS READING OUR POST THAN THEY KNOW WE ON HEAR ARE FAMILY WE HELP ONE ANOTHER AN STICK TOGETHER...MY HEART GOES OUT TO THIS FAMILY, WE AS FELLOW HOG HUNTERS WILL ASSIST IF NEEDED.....A PEN OF HOGS LEAVE NOTHIN BUT SSSSHHHHIT! BEHIND! ;)

x2 what lil will says. wen something like that happens it makes me so mad just find a tall oak and grab a rope. >:( >:( >:(

thats the cruelest bloody thing ive seen in my life what low life dogs would do that sorry for the language .
if that ever happened to me here i would be askin every body in town i would soon enough get a answer than the person or people who did it would be layin right beside my dogs . i fell sorry for that family having have that happen to them mate im just cranky as right now might post a little later when my bloody aint boiling

When I first saw this it infuriated me so bad I couldn't even comment about it. It's the same with humans as it is with dogs , If you don't cull hard you won't ever have anything but a bunch of sorry pieces of sh!t..

hehehe nicely put

 And i would cull them pretty quick.  And not even loose any sleep over it. Man this infuriates me.  If i caught them doing this to my dogs all i could say is LORD have mercy on my soul ! ! cause it wouldnt be a pretty sight.

First seen it was so sick and mad didn't have the words.

And I still don't!

Lock up is not good enough for those kinds of people , regular laws don't fit the crime,  they need to be handed over to a few of us and let us dish out their punishment , then and only then could you say they got what they really deserved!

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Sick and wrong is all I can say.

I feel real bad for them but I will say... don't make little people mad. This was probly a person that they made mad and knew he couldn't win a fist fight and didn't want to get in a gun fight. Could have been someone they made mad tresspassing or road rage or stealin their girlfriend. Definitly not right but you can't mess with certain people.

I'm in agreement with those who say someone had a bone to pick with the family. It's unfortunate that someone would be so sick and vindictive.

It's interesting how many people would take a human life for committing such cruelty to animals. I know many of us say we wouldn't shoot if there was someone trying to steal our dogs, but seeing this article may make you rethink your position. Knowing that someone would do such a thing makes me want to use deadly force to protect what's mine. A truck or a saddle is a different story, but I believe that my dogs are family and I will protect my family. "Fearing for my own life" are some pretty easy words to utter.

Does this change anyone's opinion on whether or not you would use deadly force to protect your dogs, or does everyone still pretty much have the same stance as before?

By the way, I believe there is a nice toasty place in hell for someone who could be so cruel. A wood chipper and a catfish pond could expedite their getting there. Oh, and you may want to pressure wash the chipper afterward.

Cheers
M

 Well, even though I have not posted what I would do to the people responsible for this don’t mean I have not thought about it.
I have thought about it and I don’t like what I think! I don’t care to post it either.

I was on a man hunt years ago after a trespasser gut shot my best all time dog! He died from it.
I was in a blind rage for days, full of hate for the unknown perpetrator for months, and then depression set in for even longer.

Now? I truly thank God that I didn’t catch them or find out who did it. That is the honest truth.

Deadly Force? I would “not” take another human life to keep my dogs or any other possession from being stolen.

Catching someone in the act of senselessly killing my dogs like this? I am sure that I would live to greatly regret my actions is all I will say.

Does anyone else think that this might have been an animal activist that did this to those dogs??....I mean the way that they were slaughtered has a resemblance to the way we kill pigs. In most cases when someone is going to kill a dog they poison them but this is just horrific and looks more like someone is sending a message.

Either way who ever did this is sick and I cant even imagine that happening to any one of my dogs because Im almost certain I would shoot someone If I found them doing that to any of my dogs. I dont care how much I dont like someone, I could never do that to a dog just out of malice, and anyone who can is not human. Its so nice to see the hunting community coming together to get this boy some new dogs. Just shows how much we like to help each other out.

I am in no way condoning what was done to this guys dogs or fence line, but I imagine he pissed someone off.  It would be interesting to hear the entire story from both sides, just to see what it takes to cause someone to commit such a heinous crime.

That is what I have been thinking all along Circle C. It was personal.

Im with CircleC and Ninja on this one. Not saying what was done is justified but there are always two sides to a story and we have only herd one side.

 There are people out there who don't need much of a reason to do something like this. I live in a small country town and I remember about 15 years ago something similar to this happened to a horse. The horse wasn't killed but it was all slashed up while trapped in its stall. The horse belonged to a girl who was in the local rodeo queens contest and they figured that it was a relative of a competitor because it happend the night before the last judging. Nothing was ever proved but sad never the less.

i have kept comments to my self on this one too, boarNinja makes a VERY good point. I know that i have made some pretty bad decisions in the heat of the moment that i had regreted later, and i also think that whoever did this was definitly, "in my opinion" tryin to send a message. I think it would be VERY interesting if they ever do catch whoever did this to find out exactly why they would, but i think that they already know who it was. JMO
   I dont think a dogs life is worth a humans life, and i know there very different opinions on this :o.  BUT, the BIBLE says that we are not to take anothers life, and that there is pleasure in sin for a season, and EVERY knee shall bow, and EVERY tongue shall confess the LORD JESUS. Everyone will stand in judgement. We are not judges.
 what would i do if i caught someone doing this to my dogs, or stealin, I dont know, I hope that i would have the strength to think clearly and make the right choice, but like many times before, that don't always happen.

That is nicely said and very true.  :angel:

That's a shame. Chances are, they have a good idea who did this.  It reminds me of a couple of years ago a rancher by the house caught a hog dogger on his place and pressed charges.  About the time the guy got out of jail, a couple of the ranchers dogs were dismembered, heads put on fence posts.  I don't think they ever proved who did it, but something like that is meant to send a message.  Also, as far as what I'd do if I caught someone doing that, I've been in some situations where people always say they'd kill a man in.  Truth be told, you can't say what you'd do, it seems like your brain shuts down and you just react.

I agree. I honestly don't think any humans... I take that back... I can think of a few people I would choose my dog over... But you can say what you would want to do if someone did this to you but it probly won't ever happen to you and we'll probly never know the whole story. The same thing y'all are saying about this person might have been what that guy was thinking because that boy might have done something to him. He might have killed the other mans dogs and the other guy was trying to get even. There's always several sides to the same story. Maybe this guy just meant what he was saying. I'm not gunna say I would do anything to anybody until I honestly knew the whole story. I'm just sayin' there's no way it's as simple as it seems.

Good post tnhillbilly...

after thinking about it and reading all these posts I have to agree with most of the logic posted on this thread.
I will list them in order of probablity. ???

1. Someone is severely pee-ode at a family member or family. >:(

2. Someone is severely mentally disturbed and perceived to have an issue with the family. >:(

3. Could be a mentally disturbed animal rights activist/PETA etc.... >:D
Animal rights activist live in a fantasy world and don't have a clue as to what is right. :)

THE BOTTOM LINE IS WHOEVER DID THIS IS ONE SICK PERSON AND IS DANGEROUS TO SOCIETY.... >:D

I would like to have an hour with the scumbag who did this with a bullwhip in my hand.
Don't think I could kill someone for doing that to my dogs, but i'd make them wish I would.

lol i'd hate to be your ol lady bahahah jk jk jk

Yes same stance, i would never take a human life for someone tryint to steal something.  Now if they come in the house to do it thats different.  Now if i caught them in the act, it would be a serious beating until the cops showed up.  But i have dealt with to much theft both personally and professionaly and the consequenses of you to use deadly force is not worth it IMO.  Not to mention the loss of sleep over it and ive been there but the legal consequences could be a whole lot worse.. Again just my opinion

 well after reading all the posts and knowing what i posted. i personaly feel my dogs are like my kids and treat them as such, even if a member of the family or the family in whole did something to who ever did this. if it were my dogs and i did somethin to some1 and they did this to my dogs and what i did to them was in NO manner related to what they did, i WOULD take their life. an eye for an eye. i know it aint every1s stomach to take a human life but i hav not had any guilt from those lives i took in iraq.

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Just my thoughts
 As for the people that did this I dont  call them human
   As for taking a life for it, lets put it this way if it was our dogs
   I would hunt the low life down. What I would do, I pray we will
   never find out
Dexter
The family is in my prayers
I do know that for sure

My concern is this, if they are sick enough to do this to dogs, then what's next ?  Will it be another animal ? A family member harassed or injured?  Arson?  More vandalism? I can't be there to watch my place all the time unfortunately.  It's too bad it had to happen .

I don't post much but this is the worst think I have heard in a while as far as what would I do I have no kids so my dogs are it so make no mistake about it from my weiner dog to my ridgeback I would smoke anyones ass in a heartbeat! I don't know if the folks who lost there dogs are on this site but I am very sorry for ur loss!

Lord, have mercy on whoever did this.  I hope ya'll will keep us informed when they catch these monsters.  It made me sick to see the pictures.  I think more of my dogs than most people.

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DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THE LEGAL PUNISHMENT IS. I KNOW HERE IN GREER COUNTY OKLAHOMA THE SHERIFF PROBABLY WON'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE HE DOESN'T CONSIDER IT A CRIME TO KILL SOMEONE'S DOG OR STEALING THEIR DOG.

Wood, the crime in Greer county is that yall elected that Sheriff to begin with. Vote him out! >:D

It'll be trespassing and animal cruelty.  Not near as much as they need.

That is why you better hope I call the cops!