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Title: Dogo breeders
Post by: dub on August 06, 2010, 12:22:56 pm
This is not a Pit vs Dogo discussion!

I would like to find out who breeds Dogos for hunting. I want to get a couple puppies. I am not in a hurry I just want to make sure I get good dog. With it taking about two years before I can really use them I really want to see the parents hunt. I also want them to be at the top of weight range. The Dogos I have seen hunt I really like. I also really like the personality. So I am trying to go see more hunt to figure out where I want to get a puppy. It is not who is the best. It is all opinion so really no arguing.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: bignasty on August 06, 2010, 12:39:50 pm
hunt? nobody,most keep them on a leash even dogo breders who will claim they hunt have cur dogs ,wonder why?


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: make-em-squeel on August 06, 2010, 12:50:04 pm
hunt? nobody,most keep them on a leash even dogo breders who will claim they hunt have cur dogs ,wonder why?
Haters  >:( I hunt mine like a bulldog should be hunted in texas on lead and sent to a bay  ;)


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: bignasty on August 06, 2010, 01:22:35 pm
hunt? nobody,most keep them on a leash even dogo breders who will claim they hunt have cur dogs ,wonder why?
Haters  >:( I hunt mine like a bulldog should be hunted in texas on lead and sent to a bay  ;)
thats not hunting thats catching and they are not a bulldog either,maybe its just a texas thing i will never understand. :-\


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Circle C on August 06, 2010, 01:30:05 pm
Dub,
 
   There are several members here who hunt and breed dogos.

The only one that I can recommend does not breed the dogos on the upper end of the size/weight range, so I don't think he would work for you.

 Marvin aka La Dogo hunts and breeds large dogos...I haven't ever hunted behind one, so I can comment on the personally.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: raider54 on August 06, 2010, 02:05:27 pm
hunt? nobody,most keep them on a leash even dogo breders who will claim they hunt have cur dogs ,wonder why?

Not True! I know a guy that hunts his as a pack! I just bred one of my females to one of his. If you are interested I can put you in touch with him or I will be having pups the 1st of Oct.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: raider54 on August 06, 2010, 02:16:01 pm
hunt? nobody,most keep them on a leash even dogo breders who will claim they hunt have cur dogs ,wonder why?
Haters  >:( I hunt mine like a bulldog should be hunted in texas on lead and sent to a bay  ;)
thats not hunting thats catching and they are not a bulldog either,maybe its just a texas thing i will never understand. :-\

Thats not entirely true either! Thier breed started out with 3 bulldogs


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: DubbleRDawgs on August 06, 2010, 02:21:29 pm
 ushog has some fine ones .. i personnally never hunted with him but he uses them in a pack of rcd would love to hunt with him.. i have seen the results of the hogs that he has caught at his place ..  look at the post on our first hog by machinesoldlady ,i didnt see any curs.. but myself i hunt different.. that is jmo... he has some fine dogos...


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Ladogos on August 06, 2010, 02:26:29 pm
hunt? nobody,most keep them on a leash even dogo breders who will claim they hunt have cur dogs ,wonder why?

I usually keep one on leash / rhino , and one or two on the ground running with the curs.  The reason why most hunters that have dogos also have curs is because in my opinion is two reasons ,  

1. Nose,  Curs typically have a better nose than dogos just like a hound typically has a better nose than a cur.

2. Range, Curs typically will run a track farther / longer than most dogos.  Just as a marithon runner can run longer than a NFL linebacker .    

At least from my experiances anyway for whatever thats worth . .  rolleyes


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Circle C on August 06, 2010, 02:33:38 pm

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look at the post on our first hog by machinesoldlady ,i didnt see any curs..

My money says the yella dog to the back left in this pic is a cur dog.
(http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac118/MachinesOldLady/TitusFirstBoar10088.jpg)


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: dub on August 06, 2010, 02:44:01 pm
I have hunted with US Hog and I have seen them hunt. That is why I want to get some. I am not sure they are better than a cur at finding. But having the catch dog at the bay is good. I just don't hear them bark. So run a cur or two so you can hear the bay. The hunting ability is more important than being the biggest. But put 100 lbs on each ear and a cur baying, life is good. It is just a lot of time and food to get them there. But after watching them hunt I think it will be worth it.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Circle C on August 06, 2010, 03:09:06 pm
This is just my opinion, so take it for what it's worth.


I would not want to run a Dogo(or any catch dog for that matter) with a cur that has any range or bottom, as I don't want to risk having the catch dogs caught for extended periods of time before I get there. A couple of examples I can think of, getting into multiple bay/ catch situations where you have to fight your way to one bay to kill the hog, before you can begin making it to the next bay. Or having them catch across a river/swamp that might take a while to get across.
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So run a cur or two so you can hear the bay.
  I can't think of too many bay dogs that I have seen that continue to bark once the catch dog it caught. Most either help with the catch, or roll out looking for another hog.

   It works for plenty of people that run rough/ catchy cur dogs, and I would say that they get used to going through some dogs.  Is that something you are willing to risk after finding and raising the right dogo pups?


My thoughts may be overly simplistic, and have some faults, but the basics are this.

Long range or dog with lots of bottom needs to be loose baying. Problem with this, is it requires large properties, as the hog may travel some distance before baying.

Short range, minimal bottom, might as well have a rough dog, or dogo that will shut the hog down as soon as it's found. This style can sure help you stay on a smaller property without getting on the neighboring place.



Title: Re: Dogo breeders
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Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Tomball Dogos on August 06, 2010, 03:27:57 pm
My money says the yella dog to the back left in this pic is a cur dog.


Depending on where I hunt is how l use her l can leave her on the ground or lead her in it is nice to have the option


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: DubbleRDawgs on August 06, 2010, 03:33:25 pm
Chris i think that dog you are calling a cur is a champion ridgeback jmo .. i dont know where that breed falls in find or catch ?? just my .02


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: dub on August 06, 2010, 03:37:08 pm
I believe that is her Ridgeback. It is all about options.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Circle C on August 06, 2010, 03:39:10 pm
The red dog looks like a ridgeback, but is the yellow one a ridgeback too?


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Circle C on August 06, 2010, 03:41:36 pm
This one?

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p204/ccoughran/cur.jpg)


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: de_moon on August 06, 2010, 03:44:51 pm
Looks like a cur dog to me


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: dub on August 06, 2010, 04:22:32 pm
I bet the person that took the pic knows what dogs were there. But that is exactly what I am talking about. I do think a cur is better at finding pigs. So getting them to work together you have a pig stopping team. It is just getting good dogs that can get'r done!


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: make-em-squeel on August 06, 2010, 04:23:47 pm
bignasty enlighten a texas boy as to what the heck you consider a dogo to be, if its not a bulldog...a hound? Out of the many dogs that make up the breed their are mostly bulldogs then mastiff/boxer/dane/pyrinese.... BUT to a TEXAS BOY the dog on the leash with a cut vest on is considered the bulldog.

dub i would look at silverton boar dogs, us hogs, ladogos, ppc dogos or folks like me that have a spin off of these hunters/breeders who have done all the hard work for us. I have actually been pleased with the male and female we got from ppc for size for endurance etc...my gyp is 75 lbs and the male is 90 in hunting shape. Generally i think their dogs are a little bigger than this but our 2 are built to run......


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: BigAinaBuilt on August 06, 2010, 04:30:28 pm
Dub- I know in your OP you say you would like to see the parents work but if you are willing to do business in Hawaii I will give you a number of a guy who runs a pack of Dogos as "Drop the tailgate" style dogs along with his house Jack Russel/Jagd! He brings out the bacon so I ain't one to judge his style!  :laugh:


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: dub on August 06, 2010, 04:32:33 pm
Some say you can't run Dogos only rolleyes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zHkg5Aakqg


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: USHOG on August 06, 2010, 05:25:26 pm
Delete my account


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Silverton Boar Dogs on August 06, 2010, 07:00:13 pm
dub, you can come hunt with me any time. I have two females, and I can run them anyway you would want depending on the country. My good female Adore came from Marvin. She has a very good nose, a bunch of hunt, and is extreamly fast. If I were you I would listen to the folks here who hunt Dogos. Many of us hunt areas that are very well suited to running Dogo's and it really makes no difference if you run some curs with them or not.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: MachinesOldLady on August 06, 2010, 07:03:58 pm
I'm too new to talk intelligently about any of the hunting aspects of Joes Dogos but I can tell you every one of them has great temperaments & handle nice. I've watched them scenting & working tracks. I've never seen them trash & every one I've watched work is a catching machine. Mentally his dogs are great. Hunting - well the proof's in the pudding isn't it? Feral hog removal is his business, he's got plenty of clients and a good track record.

Chris i think that dog you are calling a cur is a champion ridgeback jmo .. i dont know where that breed falls in find or catch ?? just my .02

The red one is the champion ridgeback. I do have a yellow ridgeback too, but I left him at home. One catches, one bays so we kind of straddle the fence there.




Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: rdjustham on August 06, 2010, 07:08:37 pm

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look at the post on our first hog by machinesoldlady ,i didnt see any curs..

My money says the yella dog to the back left in this pic is a cur dog.
(http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac118/MachinesOldLady/TitusFirstBoar10088.jpg)

And id say upper right is a ridgeback.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: tnhillbilly on August 06, 2010, 07:19:38 pm
I too am going to purchase 1 or more dogos in the future and was wondering the same, just didnt want to get in on all the arguin. ;)


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Silverton Boar Dogs on August 06, 2010, 07:38:59 pm
Might be a good thread if we can keep the highjacking down,haha


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: W-tate on August 06, 2010, 07:52:54 pm
 paul i think  you got that right i enjoy the reading   but my  2 cents i think there are other breeds or cross that can do any thing  a dogo can     i had to stir  the pot lol that my highjacking


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Scott on August 06, 2010, 07:59:14 pm
The best advice you can get regarding any dog/breed/bloodlines you are interested in is to go see the stock for yourself. Evaluate them in the woods, and not just once, or one breeder. Visit/hunt with several, that way you know exactly what you should get. Keep in mind, there are culls in every single litter...stack the deck in your favor by doing the research before you obtain the dog/pup.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: rdjustham on August 06, 2010, 07:59:48 pm
Some say you can't run Dogos only rolleyes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zHkg5Aakqg

great video, not only did it do right by our passion but good depiction for dogoa


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: bignasty on August 06, 2010, 08:51:30 pm
bignasty enlighten a texas boy as to what the heck you consider a dogo to be, if its not a bulldog...a hound? Out of the many dogs that make up the breed their are mostly bulldogs then mastiff/boxer/dane/pyrinese.... BUT to a TEXAS BOY the dog on the leash with a cut vest on is considered the bulldog.

dub i would look at silverton boar dogs, us hogs, ladogos, ppc dogos or folks like me that have a spin off of these hunters/breeders who have done all the hard work for us. I have actually been pleased with the male and female we got from ppc for size for endurance etc...my gyp is 75 lbs and the male is 90 in hunting shape. Generally i think their dogs are a little bigger than this but our 2 are built to run......
a bulldog is a bulldog it came from bulldogs that came from bulldogs get it? a dogo is a dogo it came from 10 breeds,example-if you put mastiff with a bulldog you got a bandog not a bulldog anymore.the name is lost along with the bulldog heart.you want to call them bulldogs its ok, i dont


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: make-em-squeel on August 07, 2010, 10:28:57 pm
dub, you can come hunt with me any time. I have two females, and I can run them anyway you would want depending on the country. My good female Adore came from Marvin. She has a very good nose, a bunch of hunt, and is extreamly fast. If I were you I would listen to the folks here who hunt Dogos. Many of us hunt areas that are very well suited to running Dogo's and it really makes no difference if you run some curs with them or not.

Paul i would love to read/watch and learn how you hunt yours. I am stuck on the traditional curs on the ground cd's on a lead until curs bay...mostly out of my fear of getting my dogo caught far off, even though mine doesnt fight a pig (holds clean) i am scared to let her stay caught for a long time, split bays/catches, etc etc. Heck she will get out 500yds in no time and that scares me, much less if she is with curs. And even a close range cur will head out a mile on a hot track and bay  ??? then what..? I would love to 2 or 4 out some dogos but dont feel confident i wouldnt put them in a bad situation.....how do you do it  rolleyes


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: make-em-squeel on August 07, 2010, 10:48:43 pm
[quote it came from 10 breeds,example-if you put mastiff with a bulldog you got a bandog not a bulldog anymore.the name is lost along with the bulldog heart.you want to call them bulldogs its ok, i dont
[/quote]

Give me a break, HEART! are you for real?..not sure the dogos you have seen catch but the ones i role are no different than an ab or pit when it comes to heart. I have seen a few pits (one game bred) get hit tuck tail and run but thats not how i generalize the breed. I have seen several and owned a few dogo culls, but come on thats not the brightest statement. And way to general. 

Point taken on not calling the dogo a bulldog, i personally keep it simple, its the dog in a vest i cut to the bay and it grabs the ear, so i call it a bulldog but i see why others dont and technically speaking your probably right.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Silverton Boar Dogs on August 07, 2010, 11:45:19 pm
Paul i would love to read/watch and learn how you hunt yours. I am stuck on the traditional curs on the ground cd's on a lead until curs bay...mostly out of my fear of getting my dogo caught far off, even though mine doesn't fight a pig (holds clean) i am scared to let her stay caught for a long time, split bays/catches, etc etc. Heck she will get out 500yds in no time and that scares me, much less if she is with curs. And even a close range cur will head out a mile on a hot track and bay  ??? then what..? I would love to 2 or 4 out some dogos but dont feel confident i wouldnt put them in a bad situation.....how do you do it  rolleyes

A good pair can hold a big hog for quite some time. You just got to let them do it. Heat is a factor so when its real hot I get as close as I can and get there quick. When it cools off I usually wait for a hot track and send the white dogs asap. I will also send them to any bay they can hear. Trust the dog, trust the conditioning, trust the training. I also give mine as much work holding a hog as I can. When I get to a caught hog I never leg them, I see how things are going and if all is good I let them hold and I will slip in and stick the hog while it is standing up. I let them hold as long as they can and break them off just before the are exausted or to hot. This will help give you a good idea how long they can hold in differant conditions. My Adora female is also very long range, if I throw her down with the curs in open country she will hunt a mile deep. Yes that scares the crap out of me as well, but that is what they were designed to do, you just need to make sure they have some help, and are in very good condition. If you send a soft, fat Dogo a long ways you are in big trouble.



Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: raider54 on August 08, 2010, 02:08:33 am
dub, you can come hunt with me any time. I have two females, and I can run them anyway you would want depending on the country. My good female Adore came from Marvin. She has a very good nose, a bunch of hunt, and is extreamly fast. If I were you I would listen to the folks here who hunt Dogos. Many of us hunt areas that are very well suited to running Dogo's and it really makes no difference if you run some curs with them or not.

Paul i would love to read/watch and learn how you hunt yours. I am stuck on the traditional curs on the ground cd's on a lead until curs bay...mostly out of my fear of getting my dogo caught far off, even though mine doesnt fight a pig (holds clean) i am scared to let her stay caught for a long time, split bays/catches, etc etc. Heck she will get out 500yds in no time and that scares me, much less if she is with curs. And even a close range cur will head out a mile on a hot track and bay  ??? then what..? I would love to 2 or 4 out some dogos but dont feel confident i wouldnt put them in a bad situation.....how do you do it  rolleyes

Grant you are always going to have haters bash what they dont have. Its not enough for  them to hunt what they want! they have to try and convince others they shouldnt own one either.  I dont get it, I guess some people are just miserible ???


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Peachcreek on August 08, 2010, 02:51:14 am
that is a neat video. makes me want to throw rocks at my mutts...  rolleyes

i wonder how much of it is true. sounds like its a mutt to me ;D



Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: aussiedogger on August 08, 2010, 03:26:44 am
id like a dogo the exact make of ladogo's ricardo. beautiful lookin dog. too bad their ilegal to own over here. i was thinkin you could get someone to send semen straws over here and say they were some other breed. bit far fetched though. haha


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: warrent423 on August 08, 2010, 08:56:05 am
hunt? nobody,most keep them on a leash even dogo breders who will claim they hunt have cur dogs ,wonder why?
Haters  >:( I hunt mine like a bulldog should be hunted in texas on lead and sent to a bay  ;)
thats not hunting thats catching and they are not a bulldog either,maybe its just a texas thing i will never understand. :-\
Back home in Florida, we go to the woods to "catch" hogs not to hunt them. Those white dogs have been doing just that for centuries.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Scott on August 08, 2010, 09:00:10 am
Back home in Florida, we go to the woods to "catch" hogs not to hunt them. Those white dogs have been doing just that for centuries.

Which "white dogs" have been doing it for centuries?


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: warrent423 on August 08, 2010, 09:59:56 am
Back home in Florida, we go to the woods to "catch" hogs not to hunt them. Those white dogs have been doing just that for centuries.

Which "white dogs" have been doing it for centuries?
In Florida , our old english whites (web) in particular, which are in fact direct descendants of the Alanos(shepards mastiff/spanish alaunt cross). Not saying we use dogos in particular, but the Web's were used to build those Argentina dogs. Us "crackers" were smart enough to breed enough old english white into our lines of curs to where we did not need to carry a Bulldog. ;D


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Scott on August 08, 2010, 10:37:32 am
10-4, I know all about the WEB ;)


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Lone Star 88 on August 08, 2010, 11:44:47 am
Go here to find out about the W.E.B. http://bttbab.com/kaolin_kennels.htm


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: gottagettem on August 08, 2010, 12:13:14 pm
sorry to intrude.. but if yall believe in the dogo. so much... why do u want an arm and leg for a pup?  yall say how every one hates.. on dogos.. cause they dont have them .. but if we try to get one it cost so much.....for a pure bread....and its a pup... it could be a cull or a dam good dog... dont know till it gets older... but if u charge alot. for them then the people that want one.. wont buy it cause of the cost......i know if u really want one u will break down and get what u want.....but to pay for a pup.. just say five hundred...... that pup will sit there till u think it is time for him to start.. training..... and if u are trying to start a pack .. of them then do the math..... i love hunting dogs.... and the risk of one gettin killed in action is always there... but i u make the dogo..sell for a cheaper price... and give more people the chance to own one... yall wouldnt have that many haters.....me myself would like to get a few for a pack sum day....but im not going to waste over a thousand dollars for just two pups....and then have to wait for them to get big enough to hunt... and then take a chance of one getting killed......and taking a step back in getting a pack..... i know everyone love their dog ....and thinks highly of them but to price them.. so high.. that average people cant get the chance to own one... and add it to their pack is ... stupid....... and dont even get me into half bread dogos........in my opinion... if u have a half dogo half what ever... u cant say much about anything... cause u hvae a half bread..... not a full blooded....... but if yall breaders would give a cheaper price for the dogo.. and give people a chance to own one and train it to hunt how they hunt.... maybe people would have a better opinion on them...... i dont own one... but ive been pricing them... and that is way yall will always have this fight between bulldogs pits and dogos......jmo..... but i am willing to buy a few for a cheap price...but dont think that will happen...u can trash me about this allday.. i dont care... i just think there wouldnt be  arguing if they didnt cost so .. and people would have a different opinion.. if they had a chance to own one.....


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Scott on August 08, 2010, 12:34:07 pm
Go here to find out about the W.E.B. http://bttbab.com/kaolin_kennels.htm

And then you have to separate fact from fantasy...


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: dub on August 08, 2010, 02:56:13 pm
gottagettem I understand you point. That is why I have to see the parents hunt and then get the hearing checked. But I have been trying to get really good curs! The people with the best curs won't sell one for anything. I have wasted too much money on culls. I am just plain sick of it. I am trying to get dogs so I can go hog hunting. THAT IS ALL I WANT! But you have the people hocking dogs that ain't worth a poop. The Dogos take time but I have seen the culls hunt and they are better than stuff I paid way too much for. I am still waiting on a hog trap that was supposed to be part of a deal. I have wasted too much money already. $500 for a Dogo pup! That is really cheap! I have seen much higher and down the road I may get one of their Dogo pups.

But I look at it as paying my dews to the hog dog community. But all I want to do is go hunting already! I want good BMC's and good Dogos. But I have learned to slow down and see who you can trust. It seems most people are just trying to make a buck off the new guy until he goes away. But I have one good dog so far and she wants to hunt as much as me and my boy.

But the question was about Dogos. Not paying too much or what the best dog is. I know there are great dogs out there. I just can't get one! So I want to know more about Dogos.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: make-em-squeel on August 08, 2010, 03:15:36 pm
Paul i would love to read/watch and learn how you hunt yours. I am stuck on the traditional curs on the ground cd's on a lead until curs bay...mostly out of my fear of getting my dogo caught far off, even though mine doesn't fight a pig (holds clean) i am scared to let her stay caught for a long time, split bays/catches, etc etc. Heck she will get out 500yds in no time and that scares me, much less if she is with curs. And even a close range cur will head out a mile on a hot track and bay  ??? then what..? I would love to 2 or 4 out some dogos but dont feel confident i wouldnt put them in a bad situation.....how do you do it  rolleyes

A good pair can hold a big hog for quite some time. You just got to let them do it. Heat is a factor so when its real hot I get as close as I can and get there quick. When it cools off I usually wait for a hot track and send the white dogs asap. I will also send them to any bay they can hear. Trust the dog, trust the conditioning, trust the training. I also give mine as much work holding a hog as I can. When I get to a caught hog I never leg them, I see how things are going and if all is good I let them hold and I will slip in and stick the hog while it is standing up. I let them hold as long as they can and break them off just before the are exausted or to hot. This will help give you a good idea how long they can hold in differant conditions. My Adora female is also very long range, if I throw her down with the curs in open country she will hunt a mile deep. Yes that scares the crap out of me as well, but that is what they were designed to do, you just need to make sure they have some help, and are in very good condition. If you send a soft, fat Dogo a long ways you are in big trouble.


Great info. thanks, i will start by not dispatching the hog asap and letting them hold longer and sending them in from farther out ths fall. I appreciate the ino


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: raider54 on August 08, 2010, 05:37:09 pm
sorry to intrude.. but if yall believe in the dogo. so much... why do u want an arm and leg for a pup?  yall say how every one hates.. on dogos.. cause they dont have them .. but if we try to get one it cost so much.....for a pure bread....and its a pup... it could be a cull or a dam good dog... dont know till it gets older... but if u charge alot. for them then the people that want one.. wont buy it cause of the cost......i know if u really want one u will break down and get what u want.....but to pay for a pup.. just say five hundred...... that pup will sit there till u think it is time for him to start.. training..... and if u are trying to start a pack .. of them then do the math..... i love hunting dogs.... and the risk of one gettin killed in action is always there... but i u make the dogo..sell for a cheaper price... and give more people the chance to own one... yall wouldnt have that many haters.....me myself would like to get a few for a pack sum day....but im not going to waste over a thousand dollars for just two pups....and then have to wait for them to get big enough to hunt... and then take a chance of one getting killed......and taking a step back in getting a pack..... i know everyone love their dog ....and thinks highly of them but to price them.. so high.. that average people cant get the chance to own one... and add it to their pack is ... stupid....... and dont even get me into half bread dogos........in my opinion... if u have a half dogo half what ever... u cant say much about anything... cause u hvae a half bread..... not a full blooded....... but if yall breaders would give a cheaper price for the dogo.. and give people a chance to own one and train it to hunt how they hunt.... maybe people would have a better opinion on them...... i dont own one... but ive been pricing them... and that is way yall will always have this fight between bulldogs pits and dogos......jmo..... but i am willing to buy a few for a cheap price...but dont think that will happen...u can trash me about this allday.. i dont care... i just think there wouldnt be  arguing if they didnt cost so .. and people would have a different opinion.. if they had a chance to own one.....
Most Hog Hunters WONT pay the price for them. People will pay $1500 all day long for a dogo as a pet, but hog hunters know they can get a pit and the pound for free, and most pits will catch with a little work. My buddies have purebred Dogos. I dont mean to get you started as you put it on 1/2 Dogos but thats what I choose to breed DOGO/AB's. I sold my last litter for $500 each. I just bred my reg. AB female to a reg. (proven) Dogo again. The pups are due Oct 1st and 4 of them are already sold @ $500. I could have bred her to a reg. AB and sold all the pups here in Plano, TX for $1000 to $1500 as pets but I am raising catch dogs with EVERYTHING I want out of a CD. These Dogo/AB's have been the best all around that I have seen. I pay good money for dogs that I like and if I dont like them I dont


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: raider54 on August 08, 2010, 05:41:36 pm
gottagettem I understand you point. That is why I have to see the parents hunt and then get the hearing checked. But I have been trying to get really good curs! The people with the best curs won't sell one for anything. I have wasted too much money on culls. I am just plain sick of it. I am trying to get dogs so I can go hog hunting. THAT IS ALL I WANT! But you have the people hocking dogs that ain't worth a poop. The Dogos take time but I have seen the culls hunt and they are better than stuff I paid way too much for. I am still waiting on a hog trap that was supposed to be part of a deal. I have wasted too much money already. $500 for a Dogo pup! That is really cheap! I have seen much higher and down the road I may get one of their Dogo pups.

But I look at it as paying my dews to the hog dog community. But all I want to do is go hunting already! I want good BMC's and good Dogos. But I have learned to slow down and see who you can trust. It seems most people are just trying to make a buck off the new guy until he goes away. But I have one good dog so far and she wants to hunt as much as me and my boy.

But the question was about Dogos. Not paying too much or what the best dog is. I know there are great dogs out there. I just can't get one! So I want to know more about Dogos.
Dub, that was a very honest post and I wish you the best on finding what you are looking for.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: warrent423 on August 08, 2010, 08:56:56 pm
I will admit some of these prices now a days on these so called white english as well as the dogos is outrageous.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: make-em-squeel on August 08, 2010, 09:06:39 pm
it cost me 1 k to get my dogo shipped to me from denmark and my friend 1.5k to go and pick his up from ppc in denmark and we would both do it agian, granted onedog was finished and mine came with a $ back guarantee! but to each his own and i have spent more than that on bulldogs i have culled.

I look like it as a one time investment, i am breeding them and giving the pups to my hunting friends to keep the blood aound. Just my .02 opinions welcome but no hating, your free pits are like comparing apples to oranges... i dont want to hear it!


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: USHOG on August 08, 2010, 09:26:33 pm
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Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Scott on August 08, 2010, 09:33:35 pm
Would someone please define "hating"...


Is a differing opinion "hating"?


Whether a dog is free or $1500+, price or lack thereof doesn't directly equate to quality in any way, shape or form. Comparisons in that manner are not always apples to oranges.

The great thing about the www; there's always dissenting opinions ;D


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Mike on August 08, 2010, 11:07:38 pm
Would someone please define "hating"...


Is a differing opinion "hating"?

That's what it seems like Scott... i've had about enough of the "hater" comments myself.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: gottagettem on August 08, 2010, 11:15:15 pm
raider not trying to rag on anybodys half bread.....im just talking about the price.....in my opinion... people are just getting carryed away. with the price.... im gilty ... i payed 1500 for an english bulldog.... that has bought her way into my family.. another kid if u will... but wont pay that again......but u say u want ur blood line out their..... and everybody takes pride in either on blood line... people even have papers.... but com on.... if u want it out their and it takes time.... why u chargen so much for them..... i raised pit for along time.. and i uderstand u take pride in ur own blood line..... but  but u ever think about the average people that cant afford  that crazy price ur might be asking.... thats why u get bad reps.. and it how u get the hater.... hater.  is a person that wants  but cant afford or have. what someone else  has....   dogos... have a bad rep... cuase there is not alot of them out there.. and people want to much for the pups..... come on now... people say they are willing to help out others.. or new cummers... but u charge alot for a pup... that needs time to grow.....ya thats really helpin....but come on ... u want ur blood line out there..... then why charge so much........but of coarse.... if u can do it then i would do it to... but ur not helpin the fight at all...... just my thought


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: tnhillbilly on August 09, 2010, 12:18:11 am
Well i'm gonna put my .02 worth on this high price issue, first of all I just spent over $1000 just to get a dog bred, not counting the time and gas. so when these pups get here I am going to charge what i think is a fair price for my time and money, now after the pups get here, then you have the (if properly cared for) shots, wormer, and anything els that might arise.
 Now having said that, and I definitly dont make alot of money, but have worked very hard, and saved, to get what i want, in other words, i had to spend alot of time and money to get what i wanted, and as the old saying goes, poop rolls down hill. Just like anything you buy, if it cost alot to make, then the price will be higher.
 although, I will agree that it doesnt make good sense to pay that kind of money for a catch dog, I think that is one reason some people are raising dogo pups that are not proven dogs, they are breeding dogs wether they will work or not because they are trying to recoup some of there money, therefore you get pups that have a 50-50 chance of makin a dog. So before i would buy one or two I would defenitly do ALOT of research on the breeder. hope that helps


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Mike on August 09, 2010, 07:25:44 am
I will agree that it doesnt make good sense to pay that kind of money for a catch dog, I think that is one reason some people are raising dogo pups that are not proven dogs, they are breeding dogs wether they will work or not because they are trying to recoup some of there money, therefore you get pups that have a 50-50 chance of makin a dog. So before i would buy one or two I would defenitly do ALOT of research on the breeder. hope that helps

Bingo... that my friend one of the main reasons the dogo is where it's at today...$$$ ;)


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Rockin-P-Ranch on August 09, 2010, 08:01:05 am
I will agree that it doesnt make good sense to pay that kind of money for a catch dog, I think that is one reason some people are raising dogo pups that are not proven dogs, they are breeding dogs wether they will work or not because they are trying to recoup some of there money, therefore you get pups that have a 50-50 chance of makin a dog. So before i would buy one or two I would defenitly do ALOT of research on the breeder. hope that helps

Bingo... that my friend one of the main reasons the dogo is where it's at today...$$$ ;)

I have not posted anything on thsi posted I know no a thing about the breed.But I do know somthing about working dogs. And there are good ones and sorry ones in every breed that I have seen. And some people only care about the money and not the breed. But not being a closed minded person, I am still one that would want to know more about the breed.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: dub on August 09, 2010, 10:02:12 am
Plain and simple. I will pay for a good dog. My Rottweilers came with a long guarantee but the bottom line said "if at any time in your dog's life you are not completely satisfied return the dog and we will replace it with a new puppy." I never returned a dog. The price did not matter because the dogs did what they were supposed to.

I expect the same for a Dogo. I do not care about money back, I want a dog that works. If you can't give me that the I want my money back. I have been contacted by people just wanting to get their investment back. So the price is not bad and I ain't asking you to pay for it.

I wanted to know who has good lines so when "I" pay for one 'I" have the best chance of a good hunting Dogo and not just a show Dogo.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Circle C on August 09, 2010, 10:19:01 am




Dub,

   The only purebred dogo that I have ever owned, came from a member on this board, that has been in the dogo circles longer than most of the "breeders" on ETHD.   Here was my deal with him.  I took the pup at 8 weeks. purchase price of dogo was $300.00. I was told not to pay him any money until the dog was 18 months old. If at 18 months the dog was catching, and had not shown any health defects, than pay the $300.00.   If the dog had any problems prior to that, either euthanize the dog, or return to breeder. At that point, my only cost was in raising the dog, and time lost.  I did not have a 500-1500.00 gamble.

That is someone that cares about the breed and is not in it for the $$$

Maybe you can find a deal like that, or you can shop on the classifieds and take a gamble.

One of USHog's line of Dogo's just hit the classifieds yesterday. $300.00 .....  Maybe she will turn into a dog. ???

http://www.easttexashogdoggers.com/forum/index.php?topic=18749.0



Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Rockin-P-Ranch on August 09, 2010, 10:23:10 am
That is a man working to improve the line of dogs he has and not try to put money in his pocket.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: cward on August 09, 2010, 12:31:21 pm
My daddy can beat your daddy up!!lol ;D


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: make-em-squeel on August 09, 2010, 01:06:09 pm
Would someone please define "hating"...


Is a differing opinion "hating"?

That's what it seems like Scott... i've had about enough of the "hater" comments myself.

My bad mike, i didnt make myself clear...of coarse differing opinions are welcome and interesting. I was mostly referring to the "heart" comment and other threads that are not even relative to this one,  therefore that portion of my post was not relative and should have been left out..Thats your job to monitor posts not mine! And i hate that i paid that much in shipping for a bulldog, i realize its not the brightest thing to do but its what i wanted i was fed up with what i had been going through and thats why i am placing the majority of the pups to my friends for free.

I am glad there is so much info on the board, like what silverton boar dogs was educating me on early, thats interesting stuff i am going to put to use.

Oh yea dub you should call Kevin down around corsicana, i love everything this guy says he is really on point send me a pm if you want his contact info. He knows his sh!t.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Peachcreek on August 09, 2010, 04:38:18 pm
lol @ cward  ;D rolleyes ;D


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: gottagettem on August 09, 2010, 06:53:16 pm
circle c... u hit it for me.. u have found the right person.... someone who cares about the bread not the money..........thats what im talkin about.... the money will come and go.. but what i and i think everybody wants is a good working dog.. not a pup...... the money is worth a good workin dog... not the pup.......  cause yes.. there is good and bad pups... in all batches..... but it takes time to figure out which one will do what u want.... a pup is going to slepp and play.....now if i got a pup... and the breader said that if it didnt work out.. to bring it back. for another one....... that would be worth the money....


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: tnhillbilly on August 09, 2010, 11:52:42 pm
Plain and simple. I will pay for a good dog. My Rottweilers came with a long guarantee but the bottom line said "if at any time in your dog's life you are not completely satisfied return the dog and we will replace it with a new puppy." I never returned a dog. The price did not matter because the dogs did what they were supposed to.

I expect the same for a Dogo. I do not care about money back, I want a dog that works. If you can't give me that the I want my money back. I have been contacted by people just wanting to get their investment back. So the price is not bad and I ain't asking you to pay for it.

I wanted to know who has good lines so when "I" pay for one 'I" have the best chance of a good hunting Dogo and not just a show Dogo.


X2  ;)


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Circle C on August 10, 2010, 12:05:46 am
tnhillbilly,

PM sent.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: raider54 on August 10, 2010, 12:04:12 pm
Would someone please define "hating"...


Is a differing opinion "hating"?


Whether a dog is free or $1500+, price or lack thereof doesn't directly equate to quality in any way, shape or form. Comparisons in that manner are not always apples to oranges.

The great thing about the www; there's always dissenting opinions ;D

I think the point is; this was a thread concerning a (Hunting Dogo)! You get one guy here that doesnt own a Dogo telling the thread starter Dogo's wont hunt! Understanding this is an opinion, it has no place on THIS thread! the thread starter was reaching out to hunting Dogo owners. The term hater is placed on those guys that troll the threads looking for a topic to slander or a dog breed to slander! for example if a thread started asks for opinions on a breed, everything should be fair game! but if they ask what is the best line for being gritty? this is not an ivitation to speak negative about any line. Simply I believe if someone starts a thread and wants to talk about a Ridgeback I believe guys that dont hunt ridgebacks or own any should stay out of it!


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on August 10, 2010, 12:18:10 pm
Would someone please define "hating"...


Is a differing opinion "hating"?


Whether a dog is free or $1500+, price or lack thereof doesn't directly equate to quality in any way, shape or form. Comparisons in that manner are not always apples to oranges.

The great thing about the www; there's always dissenting opinions ;D

I think the point is; this was a thread concerning a (Hunting Dogo)! You get one guy here that doesnt own a Dogo telling the thread starter Dogo's wont hunt! Understanding this is an opinion, it has no place on THIS thread! the thread starter was reaching out to hunting Dogo owners. The term hater is placed on those guys that troll the threads looking for a topic to slander or a dog breed to slander! for example if a thread started asks for opinions on a breed, everything should be fair game! but if they ask what is the best line for being gritty? this is not an ivitation to speak negative about any line. Simply I believe if someone starts a thread and wants to talk about a Ridgeback I believe guys that dont hunt ridgebacks or own any should stay out of it!

Raider,

I actually agree with you, however, I must add, you yourself don't hunt dogos or own dogos.  Should you not stay out of this one yourself per your own reasoning?  I know you have experience with dogo crosses, but that again was not what the thread starter was asking for.  I've for sure got no stake in it, just simply wanting to learn.  Let me say now, I meant no hard feelings, I'm just wanting clarification. 


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: make-em-squeel on August 10, 2010, 12:41:52 pm
I think/assume raider54 is talking about field knowledge of hunting behind the breed, not necessarly feeding them, or only hunting with one or two bad examples. He has hunted behind mine, hoghunterdfw's , and severel other dogos quite a bit even though they come home to my kennell he was legging or sticking the hog they were caught on more than once.

For example i have never owned an ab/dogo mix but feel confident giving my opinions about the breed because of the hogs i have seen raiders mix catch, heck max (his cd) started my dogo on its first severel hogs that paul choked her off of.

 :angel:


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: chainrated on August 10, 2010, 03:28:09 pm
I know some people like dogos and I'm sure there are some good ones but what people are paying for them is absolutely ridiculous.. I've hunted with about 15 of them and not 1 of them was any better than any other good catchdog.. 14 of them I would not even feed.
What justifies the ridiculous price?
Or the extra feed it takes ?
Or the extra room?
Or all the health problems?
You could get you a pack of good built, good bred bulldogs ,for what one dogo costs,and hunt them together as a pack and they would be every bit as good as any pack of dogos.. And it would not cost you near as much aggravation and food and room and money..
And the people that think a bulldog don't have the stamina , well they just aint ever been around a good bred , deep chested bulldog..
I aint hatin on dogos and people can hunt whatever they want and spend whatever they want on dogs , don't bother me a bit.. But I do know that there is absolutely no advantage in hunting a dogo and if you pay crazy money for one you got ripped off. IMO


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: chainrated on August 10, 2010, 03:33:42 pm
I just read what I posted and it sounded a little more harsh than the way I meant it..
And maybe I have no business even posting my opinion. I was mainly just giving my opinion on the crazy prices people pay for them..
I would actually like to hunt with someone who has some good ones one day. Who knows I may be buying me a pack of dogos afterwards..  :)


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: BarrNinja on August 10, 2010, 04:11:12 pm
I just read what I posted and it sounded a little more harsh than the way I meant it..
And maybe I have no business even posting my opinion. I was mainly just giving my opinion on the crazy prices people pay for them..
I would actually like to hunt with someone who has some good ones one day. Who knows I may be buying me a pack of dogos afterwards..  :)

LOL.  X2


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: dub on August 10, 2010, 04:20:17 pm
Once again, I am not asking anybody else to buy a Dogo. If you do not want one then do not buy one. I am not asking any question about the value of a Dogo or how much they eat. I just want to buy a Dogo that is from a line that is hunted.

Why is it when a thread comes up about Dogos people must bash them.

Why I will get a Dogo:

1. The ones I have been around hunt and catch.
2. I want catch dogs on the ground so the hog is caught quicker.
3. I LIKE THEM!!!!!!
4. I like the personality.
5. I like big dogs.
6. My family loves Dogos. Even my wife likes the Dogos.

I like little women and big dogs. My best friend in high school liked his women large. I never let him set me up on a date but I did not keep telling him he was wrong for his choices.

I want to find people that have hunted with Dogos and can say who has good lines or what lines are all show.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: dub on August 10, 2010, 04:22:58 pm
I just read what I posted and it sounded a little more harsh than the way I meant it..
And maybe I have no business even posting my opinion. I was mainly just giving my opinion on the crazy prices people pay for them..
I would actually like to hunt with someone who has some good ones one day. Who knows I may be buying me a pack of dogos afterwards..  :)
I have found people that care more about getting Dogos out than money. I am find lots of people hunting with them because of this thread. For the most part I have received good PM's. I just wish this thread could be here for others to see.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: MachinesOldLady on August 10, 2010, 04:34:43 pm

I want to find people that have hunted with Dogos and can say who has good lines or what lines are all show.


You know that picture they posted in here of my dog & Joes? One of those dogs is almost TEN. Ten! Ten is pretty old for a couch dog let alone a working dog & that alone to me speaks volumes for a line. A dog that is build right & not breaking down over time & that seems smart enough to catch & catch well to still be hunted over at ten is just amazing to me.

How often do you see that sort of longevity, smarts & efficiency in a RCD? It's an honest question because I really don't know. It kind of knocked me off my feet when I found out her age because I've seen her catch some mean SOB's in the past year. Boomin' Granny!

Anyhow that's something I found to be really impressive and it's a good question to pose to the breeders you approach.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Scott on August 10, 2010, 04:42:01 pm
Once again, I am not asking anybody else to buy a Dogo. If you do not want one then do not buy one. I am not asking any question about the value of a Dogo or how much they eat. I just want to buy a Dogo that is from a line that is hunted.

Why is it when a thread comes up about Dogos people must bash them.


Opinions on any and every breed vary. You have to be able to separate the facts (good and bad) from the fiction (good and bad) on your own. That being said, you can't look at any breed with rose colored glasses...honest opinions are not always what we want to hear.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Mike on August 10, 2010, 05:58:56 pm
Why is it when a thread comes up about Dogos people must bash them.

Dub, because most of the people doing the so called "bashing" have been around dogos for many years and know of all the problems with the breed... a lot more than some of the dogo people that have only been around them a couple of years or owned 1 or 2. ;)

There's only a few on here that I would recommend you to on dogos with MANY years experience with the breed.



Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: raider54 on August 10, 2010, 06:03:54 pm
Would someone please define "hating"...


Is a differing opinion "hating"?


Whether a dog is free or $1500+, price or lack thereof doesn't directly equate to quality in any way, shape or form. Comparisons in that manner are not always apples to oranges.

The great thing about the www; there's always dissenting opinions ;D

I think the point is; this was a thread concerning a (Hunting Dogo)! You get one guy here that doesnt own a Dogo telling the thread starter Dogo's wont hunt! Understanding this is an opinion, it has no place on THIS thread! the thread starter was reaching out to hunting Dogo owners. The term hater is placed on those guys that troll the threads looking for a topic to slander or a dog breed to slander! for example if a thread started asks for opinions on a breed, everything should be fair game! but if they ask what is the best line for being gritty? this is not an ivitation to speak negative about any line. Simply I believe if someone starts a thread and wants to talk about a Ridgeback I believe guys that dont hunt ridgebacks or own any should stay out of it!

Raider,

I actually agree with you, however, I must add, you yourself don't hunt dogos or own dogos.  Should you not stay out of this one yourself per your own reasoning?  I know you have experience with dogo crosses, but that again was not what the thread starter was asking for.  I've for sure got no stake in it, just simply wanting to learn.  Let me say now, I meant no hard feelings, I'm just wanting clarification. 

Cutter Bay,  I get the saccasm I hunt with purebred Dogo's almost every weekend, my personal dogs are AB/DOGO crosses! Are you clear now? This happens anytime Dogo is in the title, and no-one wants to hear the word "Hater" Well what is it then? You know for the most part if you read any of my posts they will be positive! If not it will be in response to someone talkin sh!t


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: raider54 on August 10, 2010, 06:08:47 pm
Why is it when a thread comes up about Dogos people must bash them.

Dub, because most of the people doing the so called "bashing" have been around dogos for many years and know of all the problems with the breed... a lot more than some of the dogo people that have only been around them a couple of years or owned 1 or 2. ;)

There's only a few on here that I would recommend you to on dogos with MANY years experience with the breed.


Mike with all respect arrent you suggesting that only the bashers know what they are talking about when it comes to a DOGO?


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Mike on August 10, 2010, 06:12:31 pm
No, they're not bashers or haters. The majority of the posts i've read about the "negatives" on the dogo breed, come from those who have experienced it first hand over the years... not just on 1 or 2 dogs.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on August 10, 2010, 07:08:52 pm
Raider,

Truly no sarcasm on "the last post". I did not realize you were hunting with pure stock. After learning that, it makes a huge difference. I thank you for pointing it out, as I'm sure I was not the only one who did not know.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: chainrated on August 10, 2010, 07:23:07 pm
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Posted by: dub 
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Once again, I am not asking anybody else to buy a Dogo. If you do not want one then do not buy one. I am not asking any question about the value of a Dogo or how much they eat. I just want to buy a Dogo that is from a line that is hunted.

Why is it when a thread comes up about Dogos people must bash them.

Why I will get a Dogo:

1. The ones I have been around hunt and catch.
2. I want catch dogs on the ground so the hog is caught quicker.
3. I LIKE THEM!!!!!!
4. I like the personality.
5. I like big dogs.
6. My family loves Dogos. Even my wife likes the Dogos.

I like little women and big dogs. My best friend in high school liked his women large. I never let him set me up on a date but I did not keep telling him he was wrong for his choices.

I want to find people that have hunted with Dogos and can say who has good lines or what lines are all show

I completely understand and wish you the best of luck with them..


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: raider54 on August 10, 2010, 08:48:06 pm
Raider,

Truly no sarcasm on "the last post". I did not realize you were hunting with pure stock. After learning that, it makes a huge difference. I thank you for pointing it out, as I'm sure I was not the only one who did not know.

No Problem CBK


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: kevin on August 10, 2010, 09:11:47 pm
Chainrated,
  You know you really want a dogo.  If your lucky when you bring me my Patrick/Tiny pup ill let you take one home with you.
 ;)

   


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: chainrated on August 11, 2010, 10:30:00 am
LOL. Kevin I can't believe you would threaten me with having to feed a dogo..  That's pretty low... Thought we were buds..  :D   :D


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on August 11, 2010, 10:46:59 am
To hear Kevin talk, those dogos are almost as good as owning a hound.   ;D


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: chainrated on August 11, 2010, 10:49:27 am
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To hear Kevin talk, those dogos are almost as good as owning a hound.   

Couldn't be any worse..   ;D


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: BarrNinja on August 11, 2010, 11:05:21 am
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To hear Kevin talk, those dogos are almost as good as owning a hound.   

Couldn't be any worse..   ;D

BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Chain you are good!


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on August 11, 2010, 12:26:41 pm
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To hear Kevin talk, those dogos are almost as good as owning a hound.   

Couldn't be any worse..   ;D

BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Chain you are good!

I just marked you and Chain off my Christmas list.  That will teach you.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: gutpile on August 11, 2010, 02:33:37 pm
Dub, PM sent.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: rtrahan on August 11, 2010, 02:49:35 pm
Most of the doggers down south run dogos because we have alot more hogs then the guys up north.
Boys up north need those hi powered dogs(curs) to find a hog.
Down here we need alot more catch.
You boys are chasing dogs all day and night and we are killin swine all night with the Dogos.
Just my 2 cents


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: wcg89 on August 11, 2010, 03:54:54 pm
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Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: rtrahan on August 11, 2010, 04:16:06 pm
The topics was about dogo breeders and where to buy a pup.

The way I see it is If you don't care for dogos keep your opinions locked up.
Some of us do like them.
I own 9 dogos,5 hounds,2 curs,3 pits and I CATCH HOGS.
I have given away more curs than I have sold Dogos!!!
Not bashing curs I like them as well.
There is to many wanna be dog experts out there.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Kessling Kennels on August 11, 2010, 04:35:41 pm
You go Robert ;D ;D ;D

You always say it straight from the heart.
Your absolutly correct "There is too many World Champions" on here.
If everyone as DOG owners would help each other out this would be an even better site.
If more people like Robert would stand up for the sport and not make everything a debate between who Is right and wrong.
If a yorkie would better my pack I would have one!! ;D
Thanks Robert for standing up!
Thanks Mike and administrators for making this site a great place to learn.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Circle C on August 11, 2010, 04:47:04 pm
Quote
The topics was about dogo breeders and where to buy a pup.

The way I see it is If you don't care for dogos keep your opinions locked up.
Some of us do like them.
I own 9 dogos,5 hounds,2 curs,3 pits and I CATCH HOGS.
I have given away more curs than I have sold Dogos!!!
Not bashing curs I like them as well.
There is to many wanna be dog experts out there.

Maybe you can recommend a good place for Dub to find a "hunting" Dogo....  I assume by owning 9 of them, surely you have found a good source for them.


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: UNDERDOG on August 11, 2010, 04:50:21 pm
A wheel is round for a reason and when you try and make a square round it takes alot of work and you may get there eventually but your square round wheel will never roll as good as the original round wheel.   Right??


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: Tomball Dogos on August 11, 2010, 06:19:54 pm
Dub you did the right thing buy asking about dogo breeders on ETHD l looked for over a year for agood hunting line of dogos l was on the web so much it made me sick and when l would ask if they hunt there dog they would tell me that there dogs have been in a pen and caught good (breeders in CA.) well that told me nothing l found a breeder in ETHD that hunted his and hunted them hard call him and asked him the same ?s and he told me he would do one better and l could come watch his dog hunt so l headed that way l di not have the time to go with him but l was there to pick up my pup when l got out of the truck he said well there she is and l handed over my hard earned money and he told me to slow down and handed to back to me and said let me get her out and show you how she works so we got her out and she ran to the hog pen and jumped the fence and was on the pig she was just 41/2 mo so we got her out we were all muddy and l gave him the money he told me not to let her catch until her teeth come in and if she did not work for me bring her back and l could get my money back or get a pup so l did not feel it was such a gamble also l have made a friend for life out of this deal l feel bad for the people that spent big money and there dogs did not work l have nothing bad to say about the breed because l have only been around good bred dogs l hope you find a good breeder that stands behind his dogs like l did good luck


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: chainrated on August 11, 2010, 06:33:57 pm
The way I see it is If you don't care for dogos keep your opinions locked up.
I have given away more curs than I have sold Dogos!!!

The whole point of a public message board is for people to have discussions and that includes giving opinions. Without differing opinions this would not be much of a message board..
I'm not surprised that you can give away a curdog easier than you could sell a dogo..  :)


You go Robert ;D ;D ;D
If more people like Robert would stand up for the sport and not make everything a debate between who Is right and wrong.
If a yorkie would better my pack I would have one!! ;D


I for one am not saying anyone is wrong and I have no idea how someone having a different opinion would constitute them "not standing up for the sport" ?
And if a yorkie ever betters my pack I will cull the whole pack..  :D


Title: Re: Dogo breeders
Post by: mex on August 11, 2010, 08:01:49 pm
Dub,get in touch with Gutpile on this board.