EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

I finally have a pack that I feel can find a hog when I take them out most of the time.  I've only hunted them the past two weekends together  and we've been on more hogs than I have been on  in the past 3 months.  Problem is we are getting smoked.  They will bay and the hog will break and the dogs will run it for a while.  Sometimes the hog will stop and they will bay and by the time I get within a few hundred yards the hog will break again.  I'm really impressed by how these dogs are hunting now (not by my feet) but will they learn to stop a hog the more they hunt together?  Not complaining just wondering.  And I'm not really trying to start a whole lose vs rough debate. My dogs are a little gritty but wouldn't say rough.  Just wondering if I'm the only one going through this.

Also meant to ask how yall think it affects a dog if they get out run a few hunts in a row.  Especially a younger dog still learning.  Thanks

told you that old girl would find you some hogs...lol...the stopping part was what we were working on..lol. if you have a rougher than avg dog with her i bet you would be able to get more stopped. she will lay teeth cause of how she got cut unless it is small she wont stay caught long enough to make the hog respect her. has she been getting cut?

the only problem i see occuring is that they hogs get in a habit of RUNNING the hog instead of STOPPING the hog. might want to try trade one of your pups for a good stop dog. we all want a complete dog but sometimes you have to catch hogs by committee. one dog is your best find/strike dog, another may not be a great find dog but they are a great stop dog, another may wind exceptionally, another may be a great ground tracker, etc. i would say just to keep hunting those pup with that girl and they will get more more hungry to find you hogs.

Thanks Deuce.  She hasn't been getting cut but last weekend she came back from a bay with blood on her and it wasn't hers or any of my other dogs.  Not sure what happened. She sure can run a hog that's for sure.  This morning took her and a couple of pups out and they ran over 11 miles total on the Garmin.  Had a couple of good bays but then they just kept breaking.

When you had good bays, were all the dogs there? Is it possible that one or two of your dogs are getting there after it is bayed and putting too much pressure and busting the bay?  How quiet do you try to be on the way to the bay? Mabye the hogs hear you coming crashing through the brush with a CD?

I had two that were in the opposite direction both times the bay started so they did run in late.  I was wondering if that could hurt but how do you keep that from happening?  Plus I try to be as quite as possible.  The last couple of bays they were over 400 yards out when the hog kept breaking so I know it wasn't because of me.

I am back in the same boat gone through some dogs and now down to young dogs it will come with time ur pack is still learning to play as a team.  Best I can describe is how the us gets beat in a lot of olimpics we have the most talent but the other team has been playing togather a lot longer.  Just give it time or go to a rcd but u will be fixing more dogs.

maybe try and pay attention to what dog is where when a bay starts, and when it breaks.  If the hog is bayed until "dog 1" gets there every time then "dog 1" might be your problem

It could be the hogs your striking are just straight up runners, but one or more of the dogs could be putting some teeth on the hog.  I would pulled out a couple of the most catchy dogs and see if the hogs don't bay.  Then you can sneak in with you cd and catch him.

I've been told that the hogs where I hunt like to run but I figured they were just trying to make me feel better about getting out run. Lol

Jet, I don't know where you hunt or how the hogs in your area behave but honestly believe it probably has more to do with thick cover on the ground than it has to do with your dogs ability to shut one down.  I bet within a couple months your stuck hogs will turn into bays and less long races.

Hog hunting is very challenging.

Sometimes too many dogs will put pressure on a hog and it will break. If that happens cut back on the dogs and see if that will work. It could be one dog that puts the pressure on and causes the break. Also, another way to tell if you have hi pressure dogs is if you are always only baying one hog.

Sometimes you can have loose baying dogs but the hogs will not hold bay. This calls for rough cur dogs that will do all they can to stop a hog. You might want to run a RCD with the pack. You will need protection on your gritty dogs if you decide to hunt this way.

Either way the hogs will look for the thickest cover and that will slow the dogs down but not the hogs. So, don't feel too bad when you have a few dry runs. Every hog hunter has these. It just makes it that much better when you catch a few... :)

Thanks for the advice.  It seems everywhere I have to hunt there is an area that has been clear cut and just let grow.  It seems this is always the first place a hog will run.  I've seen my dogs get tangled up just trying to get back to me.

Hey,Jet308 ive got the same problem with that gyp I got from ya a couple a weeks ago.Shes pretty slow and been smoked 3 outa the 4 times ive had her out,but they were big hogs so maybe they changed her mind about bayin.My thought on your problem may be the hogs have learned to get rough and keep runnin if your gettin on some of the same hogs.I personally would not let my young dogs get outrun or break bay to many times,it starts a bad habit.You need to stage a hunt for em every once in a while {get a hog and hobble it or what ever to control the situation}to keep there heads straight about there job.JMO and good luck.

Hate to hear she's not getting em stopped but I would have never said she was slow.  I've seen her cover over a mile behind a hog in no time.  She could run with or faster than all of mine.  Maybe my dogs are slow.  If she wasn't gun shy I would take her back in a heart beat.  She got out run a couple of times with me but she also shut down  a couple of runners too.

Im gonna try runnin her with some faster dogs to see if that speeds her up but she may need to adjust to this hellish terrain up here.I've been shootin over her with a 7mm ultra mag and after a few shots shes adjusting well and dont seem to mind it.

That's weird because I shot over her once and she disappeared and was waiting on me at the truck.  I really hope she works out for you. 

its not just u man I added a half pit to the team and put a stop to the runners, in time the hogs are becomming more russian, the more russian they have in them the more runners where going to have we use to not have as many runners because the wild hogs were more domestic and they will stop and fight so if you want to start catching get u a pit cross 

Well I have had the same problem myself bud, and I have rough dogs, one is an extremely rough, doesn't bark much, but will try and catch bigfoot. The hogs just seem to know either, to run when the dogs try to catch or how long before me and the catchdogs will get there. I've had rough running catchdogs in the mix and still getting burned. Seems to be very educated pork rather than dog style. But if the dogs run a hog enough it appears they actually wing it or learn as they go how to get him to stop long enough for us to get there and finish.

Thanks man.  That's what I was hoping.  I think my dogs don't like getting outrun as much as I do.  I was hoping that they would learn from it and not think they're out there just to run a hog.