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I AM LOOSING DOGS TO PSEUDORABIES I HAV LOST 2 TODAY HAS ANYBODY ELSE HAD THIS PROBLEM AND DID IT KILL EVERY DOG THAT WAS ON THE HOG

Damn Jesse I hate to hear that man.  I would seperate any dogs that may have it from those that dont.  It can wipe you out brother....

ew man i have heard horror stories about that stuff cleaning out kennels.  if i were you i would take your dogs far away from where your keeping them and where the ones that died lived.  I don't know much about the disease but i have heard horrible stories about it.  

Are they scratching real bad?

IT CANT BE TRANSMITTED FROM DOG TO DOG ITS JUST FROM THE HOG THAT THEY HAD CONTACT WITH
SO WHAT I HAV READ AND BEEN TOLD FROM MY VET

WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE GETING IT ANYBODY KNOW

I think people are good to go but I have heard that dogs can transmit it if they touch noses and exchange bodily fluid.

YES THEY ARE CLAWIN THERE HEAD UPFOAMIN OUT THE MOUTH AND CANT HOLD THERE HEAD UP KILLED MY GUNNER DOG WITHIN 24 HOURS OF ME NOTICIN SOMTHING WRONG AND ANOTHER ONE JUST DIED AT THE VET THEY ARE SHIPPIN THE BLOOD OFF TO ATM TO SEE FOR SURE BUT THE VET IS 98 % SURE THATS WHAT IT IS

Sorry to hear Jesse.  There is a lot of stuff on the net about it.  It can be transferred through saliva, stool, grass, and even water according to a few sites.  I just read a few sites on it becuase i always worry about that disease.  I hope you don't loose anymore dogs, there apparently is no cure for it. 

Were they on that boar that gutted your young dog?  What hog do you think it was?

The virus is shed in the saliva and nasal secretions of infected swine and is spread through oral or nasal contact. Aerosolization of the virus and transmission by fomites also may occur. The virus may potentially survive for seven hours in humid air and spread up to two kilometers. Furthermore, it may survive on well water for up to seven hours, in green grass, soil, and feces for up to two days, in contaminated feed for up to three days, and in straw bedding for up to four days.[6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudorabies

It's the worst thing I have ever seen a dog get.  Any dog that came in contact with the hog will probably get it. Seperate your dogs and the ones that start showing symptoms go ahead and put them out of their misery. That is some bad stuff brother.

Humans can't get it..

Dang Jesse. That is bad, bad, stuff.

Can you kill the virus if you wash and spray exposed kennels and areas with bleach? 

  The guy's that I hunt with lost 5 dogs at the beginning of the year . It took about a week for the dogs to show systems and then about 24 hr they had to be put down.  That is some bad stuff.  We have not hunted that area since then but have heard of other folks hunting around there and some of there dogs go it too.  Sorry for your loss.  

Dang Jesse I hate to hear that. If there's any thing to do that I can help let me know. Heres a little info on PSEUDORABIES .
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/animal_health/animal_diseases/pseudorabies/


This link has more info that has FAQ about it. Hope that it helps some.
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/animal_health/animal_diseases/pseudorabies/downloads/pseudorabies_faq.pdf

Jesse this sucks. Wish there was something I could do. Just hang in there. Get the rest of your dogs to another kennel if you can.

Good luck Jesse! That's bad shtuff to have to deal with.

Sorry it happened to you.

man i hate to hear that..... hopefully the rest of your dogs will be ok.

I talked to a hog hunter the otherday from down around pleasanton that was telling me the game wrden in that area had told him to watch out because it is speeding quik out there. where are you from?

That really sucks man. The ones that have it are done for, I agree put them down when they start showing signs.

BUT not all dogs that were on the hog necessarily have to die.

I have read some dogs have an immunity to it, maybe from being exposed when younger.

I also thought it was not transferred dog to dog? I don't think people get it.

My buddy's dog got it, and he thinks he got it from a hog that my dog was on also, My dog is still alive.

I have also read that it can take up to 2 weeks to show signs, so it could have been from a hog days before he died.

It was a long two weeks for me, wondering if my dog would die.

bad deal man, sorry.

I sure hate to hear that Jesse... that stuff is bad news.

Bad stuff right there, Sorry to hear it man

Damn JP, that freakin' sucks! Sorry is all I can say and I know it ain't enough. Good luck.

Jessie, I'm 62 years old & have hog hunted most of that.I've lost dogs to pseudo 3 different times. 6 dogs the first time,4 dogs the second time, and 2 the last.It took about 6-7 days from the time I caught the hog  to the time the dogs started dying.If any of your dogs didn't  bite-catch the hog they may be ok.I understand that if a dog comes in contact with any body fluid of the hog,that dog is exposed.This is a horrible death to watch.I think it affects the lining of the dogs brain.There has never been a recorded case of pseudo in humans I was told.Jessie, if you want to call me I'll try to tell you all I know about it.As many dogs as i've lost ,I'm almost an athority on this cursed disease. My ph.# is 318 793 2913.

da-n the luck jesse  hope that you dpnt lose any more .. ???? is there a vacnatition (sp) that will prevent the dogs from getting this ??? i read where they vacinate the dom. hog from getting it ...

Sorry to hear that man.

I hope it gets better for you. That really sucks.

Jesse, Sure sorry to hear about your dogs.

i lost one , there is no vaccine , i've read that 3/4 of hogs have it , people and monkeys can't get it . hate to hear it thats a bad way to lose one

I am so sorry to hear about your loss - I hope the rest of your dogs make it.

There is a place here in Fl that is known to have psuedo rabies bad and I have heard rumor it may have made it to Okeechobee as well.  We worked our puppies about a year ago and a friend worked his on the same hog as we did, his puppy wound up dying about a week later from what we presumed was psuedo rabies but we never had any ill effects in our dogs. 

It is bad news for sure!

Sorry to hear that Jesse. Keep us updated.

not good brother, thats a sh*tty deal and i hope that its taken its final toll and thats the end of this dilema for you. keep us updated on the situation. where have you been hunting lately? do you think this is something in our neck of the woods or have you been hopping around all over lately? do you think you'd be able to remember where youve hunted all the infected dogs in the past 3 weeks and possibly red-flag a certain area to keep the heck away from? since i hunt nearby some of your spots back home i sure as hell dont want to run into this either.  that sounds like a nightmare come true. im sorry i dont have much info on it to help you out besides what google told me but someone had already posted that info for ya. but again thats a major kick in the nads and sorry it happened to you and if you have any clues on where it may have come from please share any ideas with us or PM me if you have it narrowed down to an area around our stomping grounds so we can try to contain and knock this crap out as best we can. if its local, as payback for your loss ill call up my chopper pilot buddy and he'll take us up and knock em out a more dog-friendly way.  ;)   best of luck amigo. -lawson

Psuedo is not like anthrax and it is not concentrated in one area. Nearly every single hog has had it in their life. All the stars have to align for the hog to be in the infectious stage of the disease and then trade bodily fluid with the dog through saliva, blood etc.  The infectious stage only last like 48 hrs while the hog is sick so you have to come in contact with the hog during the right 48 hr time span of his life. It is about like winning the worst lotto ever.... 

That ain't worth a crap! Sure hope you don't loose no more! Let us know how things turn out!

I talked to my Vet about it one time and he was pretty confident that he could give a dog a low dose series of hog vaccine and give a dog some immunity. I told him I had one to try it on, go ahead and order it. It wasn't but a day or two and the state came down on him like he had ordered a shipment of drugs. They wanted to know where these hogs were, who owned them, how many and so on. He had to tell them what we were going to try and they told him to forget about it with no explanation. If they can make a vaccine for hogs they can make one for dogs.

Yes sir they can what the heck is A&M sittin there for!They can make it happen!

The governer's wifes lap dog will probably have to get before they do something for hog dogs.

You guys are smart enough for this explanation....just follow the money!

I went to a goat convention at A&M and they were talking about wormers for goats and there is not a dosage for goats on the bottles of cattle wormer and there is only a few kinda goat wormers and they don't work very well!So they were give us all the dosage and I ask why did they not just tell the dosage on the bottle!They said the money it takes to get that stuff FDA approved cost way to much money so they would only get approved for beef whitch has a better market!But it works on goats!
There was a goat wormer that was called Prohbit they said was the best on the market!But the active ingredent was found to go into a human medicine for a cure so they pulled it off the market and it is only sold for humans and they changed the name!
So I do beleave they have a cure or a Vac! There just is not enough money to be made!

hummmhhhh      .

Jessie, give us an update,the "mad itch" should have ran its course by now.

EVERY THING IS LOOKIN GOOD RIGHT NOW I HAVNT HAD MUCH SLEEP THE LAST 7 DAYS IT HAS BEEN THE MOST STRESSED I HAV BEEN IN MY HOLE LIFE WHAT A DEAL II HOPE NO BODY EVER HAS TO DEAL WITH IT

Sorry to hear about all that Jesse Paul. Hopefully it's behind you now.