EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

Hey guys, Britt Garcia here, is there anyone within 2 or 3 hours of the Lufkin TX area breeding and hunting Scott/Standard type american bulldogs. I am looking for a stud that is a serious catch dog. I chose Alan Scotts Ranger/Gypsy offsprings for my last out cross, but i've done all I can do with them. I need some new blood, but im very particular about what I bring into my line. No offense to anyone who is using these blood lines, but im not interested in any Hybrids, Johnson, or Watch Dog bred dogs. If they are working for you, thats great, its my my personal preference not to use them because of experiences ive had over the years. I would like to find dogs in my area, but if your else where and you think you have the best AB catch dog, id like to here from you too. If you have what im looking for or know someone who does, your comments or personal messages will be much appreciated. I have access to several CD studs that are proven from my breeding if anyone else is looking for an out cross.            Thank you for your time.

Watchdog/ suregrip bred dog has been my best AB catchdog in the last 11 years. Not as agile as I would like him to be. Johnson x OSW had the most heart but couldn't breath obviously. Had some old Sand Valley stuff that really turned me off of pure ABs all together. Hog crazy, but one cut and quit. Didn't ever go again. Had a lot of luck with hybrids, but most couldn't handle heat as well as my pits obviously, but my AB now is handling heat well for big dog and gets it done. Call John Bloodworth over in your area. According to him all other ABs are trash except his, but none of his dogs have beaten my hybrids in show, pp work, irondog, or catch comps in the last 10 years. There are some fellas on here that have nice ABs but I haven't hunted with them and they live in in south Texas. Scott Pugh is one of them

Hey Indian Valley,....Alan Scott is one of my closest friends, he lives just a few minutes from me, we hunt together a good bit. He might know of someone in your area that he has sold a dog to or that owns some of his dogs. I can give you his phone number if you'd like to talk with him about it....just let me know.

Hey,Britt....call me I have a full performance bred male you will like,long and tall,no johnson. Look up my post on my Shiner dog. I will post you some pics of him in a bit.

Britt, here is his ped...

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/dogs/american_bulldog/pedigree/903603.html

And here are a few pics....A few folks here have hunted with him and seen him in person.

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Scott P may also have something that would suit you like said above also.

Doug Loverne in Poetry, TX has a real nice AB, long legged, not undershot, high drive, athletic performance AB.  The dog's name is Whiskey and he is by Dorsey's Major Pain x Banshee.  I believe Banshee is the Litchardt stuff sired by Felony.  Dog weighs 82 lbs. in lean working shape and he's real tight and muscular.  He is a catching machine, a real BEAST.  Doug says he can stand flat footed and jump in the back of a pick-up truck with the tailgate closed.  He is a real smart dog and I believe he has a Schutzhund title also.  Doug is a hoghunter and knows bulldogs.  Lives close to Greenville, Quinlan, Kaufmann area.  Message me and I will see if he's intersted in studding him out.  I am breeding my Scott female to him as soon as she comes in heat. 

Slim, Doug is a good friend of mine....He gave me a gyp Off Whiskey for Mike named "Tink" she caught her firs time the other weekend she is by Whiskey x watchdog/Allison x hines gyp. Nice gyp for Mike so far.

Here is Tink on her first hunt along with Shiner.

http://www.easttexashogdoggers.com/forum/index.php?topic=20537.0

That's good to see.  I'm gonna give old Whiskey a try.  My Scott bitch is still young, but showed her her first hog when she was 8 months old and she went right to it like a freight train and caught the ear.  Had to have a break stick to get her off.  I'm just waiting to get a few more hogs under her belt and let her come in heat.  I know Doug well and he is a good dude.   

P.S.  When you talk to Doug, tell him I said he needs to breed Whiskey to some of his Max stuff to "game them up a little bit".   

Thanks for the all the info so far guys. Alot of these females that I need a stud for are dogs that I have placed out with close friends with the agreement that I pick the stud when they are ready for pups. My goal is to be able to show them a handful of dogs that I approve of and let them pick what dog they like. So, keep the comments and contacts coming, variety is a good thing.

In response to all the comments so far: JHY, glad to hear the WD/SG cross has worked for you. I havnt been so lucky, spent 2 yrs breeding to WD line and I gave up on it. It was convenient because there is more of that blood in my area that anything else. I was getting some functional catchdogs but there temperment was off. I know alot of people people that hunt and raise that line and are 100% content, just didnt work for me. I would contact whats his name but he might not want to mix with any of my trash LOL. Congrats on your success at those AB events. I entered one AB catch comp around Huntsville years ago and took a 2nd place out of 10 behind a " jam up titled dog" from Pensylvania that caught on the back leg LOL, go figure. Thanks for the info and God Bless. Firemedic, thanks for you input, I am also a close friend of Alans, we talk on the phone pretty regular. Ive already followed up on the leads ive got from Alan. He doesnt have alot in Texas outside of what I already have. Ive gotten 7 or 8 Ranger/Gypsy bred pups from him over the years, but thanks for the info, I really appreciate it. Bryan, thats a nice lookin male, he looks like my type of dog and he would be a 100% out cross. Thanks for posting the pics, and thanks for helping that guy locate me on here last month. gota go, later

isnt a curled tail a major fault?

Personaly...I don't care for the way my dogs is if that is what you are refering to...his what I call "monkey tail" but it don't stop me from liking him any less nor does it affect his performance....I may have to put him down tho cause he will not win any confirmation shows with it.

According to NKC...it IS a fault but does not specify as a major fault....


Tail:

Strong at the root tapering to the hocks, in a relaxed position, the tail can be carried back when excited.  A "pump handle" tail is preferred but any tail carried from upright, when the dog is excited, to relaxed between the hocks is acceptable. The tail should not end in a complete circle.

Faults: Tail curled over the back; corkscrew tail, kinked or crooked tail.

Note:  Natural tails preferred, docked tails acceptable but will be considered a cosmetic fault.  

http://www.nationalkennelclub.com/Breed-Standards/ab-standard.htm

Bignasty, you got a bulldog to offer up to the man?

Underdog,

If you decide to put shiner down because of  a faulty squirrel tail let me know and I will dispose of him for u. I just need to pick him up while he is still alive... ; ??? ;D

he is a good looking dog the tail dont bother me, just asking :)

indian river how about put up a ped for the bitches you want to breed...stud owners are picky too in what they breed there studs to

10-4...cool...

bignasty, the reason I offered my dog to him is I have seen the two lines crossed in the past and they did seem to click or compliment each other pretty well.

maybe

What ya got? I am always looking for better myself.what type of blood you got and were ya at?

whats up big nasty, I dont have the papers since these are dogs I have placed out, if i can get any of my buds to fax me a copy, i'll be happy to post them, just in case I cant, heres a quick run down on their peds, all of them will be either 1/2 or 5/8 ths Ranger/Gypsy, this pedigree is easy to find on the net, everything else is my original breeding which few people know about, they are mostly Hines bred and I would be happy to go into more detail if anyone wants to shoot me their contact info, ive been workin this line for over 15yrs and i breed for temperment and catching ability, they wont win any shows or bite anyones arm, never had one quit and i havnt had to climb a tree to get away from a hog they couldnt handle, but if a man didnt want to breed to them I wouldnt be upset, everybody knows what works for them and i know alot of peoples breeding standards arent as simple as mine, how are your dogs bred

Hey Britt,....I stopped by Alan's a little earlier and he said that you had told him about me offering to help you get in touch with him,....I thought that I had heard him speak of you before and I now remember hearing your name as one of the bulldog guys from TX. I apologize for not recognizing your name at first. Good luck in your search. Next time you're out here to Alan's let me know and I'll run up and meet you in person....good luck.

You are right about their temperaments, they will try you if not kept in check.  You must have been competing against "white boy" of Red Rock kennels?:)

Thanks for the compliment Joey. The one dog I have that may interest Britt, pedigree wise, is the one you liked at that show near Dallas a couple of years ago. But, Cane is not available for public stud. The only other male I have that may, or may not fit his criteria is Blade

Here's the pedigree

http://yellowhammerkennel.com/Documents/COI6.HTM

IMO, Shiner would be a real nice cross with the blood that Britt has, and Underdog is an honest dogman.

firemedic, no apology needed my friend, just means i had succeeded at keepin a low profile, but so much for that, Alan told me yall have been huntin together a long time, that kind of friendship is a blessing, glad to here it, been tryin to get him on a texas hunt for years, yall need load up and come down this winter and we will do some island huntin on the coast, im one to talk cause i havent made it to AL yet either, Alan has been nice enough to meet me in Jackson MS every time we have got together, its been good talkin to you and i hope to meet you soon,      Hey JHY, that name does ring a bell, guess it is a small world, im assuming youve seen that on video before, didnt mean to throw anyone under the bus, im sure that whole leg thing was a one time deal, seen mine do it but they always let go and hit the ear when the hog stops, where are you located,         Scot, thanks for your post, i have been on your site before and i like your dogs, not familiar with some of the dogs on that pedigree so could you give me any info on them, thanks and i will back you up on the under dog comment, good man

I would enjoy a trip to TX to hunt with y'all Britt....thanks for the invite. Alan and I have been friends since the first grade in school.  We've covered many a mile hunting together over the years. Good luck and come to AL for a visit anytime.

I live in Royse City, right near Poetry.  Can someone get me Doug's contact info? or give mine to him.  I am very interested in a strong female.  (972) 689-9265  dtraveler67@gmail.com  thanks

I will talk to him in the next day or so and pass your number but I don't think he has anything or plans on beeding.

What's the chances of a regular man to get one of these fine dogs. I have used pits but have 2 small children and thinking maybe should go AB way.

Oklahoma, I plan to have 2 litters this summer and hopefully 1 in the fall. I already have a list started for these litters, if you are interested, shoot me a pm with your contact info and we'll talk about it.  Thanks     Britt

bignasty. Really? Hey I am sure there are plenty of show dog sites! lol

yea really,a fault is a fault.lol to you