Title: buying station doing wrong Post by: nate on November 20, 2010, 07:57:36 am I met a dude that operates a buying station for wild hogs. After talking with him briefly, he openly admitted to turning sows out behind his house that were too small for him to mess with. If I'm not mistaken, this is against the law. He is taking trapped, transported sows and tunring them out in the wild behind his house. I would like to hear what you have to say on this matter.
Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: sfboarbuster on November 20, 2010, 09:03:10 am GOOD JOB ;D
Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: 3-Bdogs on November 20, 2010, 10:51:42 am sounds like a good deal to me
Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: Purebreedcolt on November 20, 2010, 11:57:05 am I just hope I have the place to hunt behind him where there are sows there will be boars and sows grow up lol
Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: T-Bob Parker on November 20, 2010, 02:19:32 pm Did he lo-ball you on your pigs or something?
Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: djhogdogger on November 20, 2010, 02:34:54 pm :D Sounds like a heck of a deal. You can sell him a sow....he releases it....so you catch it again and sell it to him again. Now thats a good turn around! ;D
Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: BIG BEN on November 20, 2010, 02:43:44 pm :D Sounds like a heck of a deal. You can sell him a sow....he releases it....so you catch it again and sell it to him again. Now thats a good turn around! ;D X2, double downTitle: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: HoghunterP on November 20, 2010, 02:43:59 pm if he bought it it should be his decision what he does with it. But i wish they would come turn them loose by my house.
Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: DoGgONit on November 20, 2010, 07:03:15 pm sounds like a win ,win situation
Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: matt_aggie04 on November 20, 2010, 07:33:36 pm Did he lo-ball you on your pigs or something? my thoughts exactly.... ;D Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: nate on November 20, 2010, 08:15:32 pm Did he lo-ball you on your pigs or something? my thoughts exactly.... ;D No I wasn't low balled or anything like that. At one time I ran a hunting ranch that concentrated on hogs. TAHC made a big deal about hogs escaping and made some laws that made it difficult for ranches to operate. They said buying stations would do a better job of getting the population under control. Don't get me wrong, I love hunting hogs as much as the next guy but to me it seems hunting ranches suffered a heck of a blow for nothing. just my .02 Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: sgt.davis on November 20, 2010, 08:21:46 pm He was so wrong!! He should have brought them to oklahoma and turned em loose ;)
Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: matt_aggie04 on November 20, 2010, 08:45:09 pm Nate I can see your frustration but it seems like most things where when it first came out it was a big deal and now not so much. You don't hear alot of talk about double fencing anymore do you?
Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: Bo Pugh on November 20, 2010, 10:05:53 pm im from alabama and im glad to hear of other people catch and release even in texas, ive always wondered how come people that enjoyed hog hunting with dogs would kill them, why not catch them and release them where theres none at, needless to say im starting to see alot behind my house after about 200 head
Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: jwdeltx on November 20, 2010, 10:08:35 pm I think there's a problem here that needs to be solved , turning pined hogs alose is not showing eany respect for the land owners around you. I have been hunting & traping hogs for twenty five years or so and still havent made a dent in the population. There's plenty of hogs out there with out turning eany out. I hunt because i love the sport but i also do it to help out the farmers and ranchers trying to feed us. Butcher these smaller hogs and donate them .
Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: jwdeltx on November 20, 2010, 10:18:15 pm There's only two places ,places that have hogs & places that will have hogs. There coming to your area soon. Get your dogs ready!!
Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: T-Bob Parker on November 20, 2010, 10:58:59 pm I didn't mean to sound rude if it come out like that, just wondering if they gyping folks, I gotta stop typing fast :D
Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: mradel on November 21, 2010, 12:07:04 am I think there's a problem here that needs to be solved , turning pined hogs alose is not showing eany respect for the land owners around you. I have been hunting & traping hogs for twenty five years or so and still havent made a dent in the population. There's plenty of hogs out there with out turning eany out. I hunt because i love the sport but i also do it to help out the farmers and ranchers trying to feed us. Butcher these smaller hogs and donate them . x2Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: rdjustham on November 21, 2010, 01:11:37 am its personal opinion, however mine is this. I run dogs because i love the sport. i love watching my dogs work and doing what they are bred to do. Now on the flip side, i dont always go out when i dont have meat in the freezer, and if i catch one every time i go (1-5) times a week and kill every one i catch thats five hogs a week. Where im at in Fl we dont have buying stations, places to take a hog to donate it. Which means I either A. Leave it dead in the woods, or bring it home and butcher it. Now my dad raised me if i kill it i eat it (now lets be reasonable about this statement and see how it was meant not literally) and i dang sure dont need that much meat to feed just me. So if i catch and release when i dont need the meat and leave hogs on the only place I have left to hunt why is that a bad thing?? if i kill them all then what am i gonna do for fun and stress relief? From what ive read on this board the guys in texas have more opportunity to get invited to hunt. Here....I went from three places to no places, and folks with places damn sure aint gonna just bring you along (generally) I could go on and on but im gonna keep hogs on my only place to go until I lose it or i need the meat.. I want my youngin to be able to run with them if he wants when he gets older. I just dont like people actin high and mighty about their opinion and the way they do things. We all do it for own reasons. Ok ill get off my soap box now..
Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: jdt on November 21, 2010, 05:40:40 pm i dont give a flyin fart about MOST state laws , they are made by politicians that dont know their ass from a hole in the ground .
but i wouldnt turn any loose in an area where people are trying to make a living off of what they raise , thats hard enough without anything else piled on top . Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: M Bennet on November 21, 2010, 06:04:57 pm jack pot , 7to11
Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: BarrNinja on November 21, 2010, 10:37:13 pm I met a dude that operates a buying station for wild hogs. After talking with him briefly, he openly admitted to turning sows out behind his house that were too small for him to mess with. If I'm not mistaken, this is against the law. He is taking trapped, transported sows and tunring them out in the wild behind his house. I would like to hear what you have to say on this matter. I sure hope he lives close to me!!! Bless his heart! Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: nate on November 22, 2010, 04:46:20 am THe responses I'm reading are interesting to say the least and I really see no point in going on.
However I will say this... The main problem with what is going on here is that hogs are coming from various locations that may have diseases and are being turned loose next door to me. Once I thought that practise was no big deal. I have a very good freind that is a taxidermist. He litterly almost died a few months ago from brucellosis and typhoid. He will be sick the rest of his life and its not like I expect anyone to care about it but I feel this is a pratice(the release of pigs in other areas) that should not go on. Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: preacher1 on November 22, 2010, 06:44:35 am no one should ever turn hogs loose. This aint bassfishing boys.The buyer I use kills any hogs he cant use. I know he shot 60 one day. Any ethical hoghunter would not catch and release any wild hog. The pig population does not need uor help.
Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: BarrNinja on November 22, 2010, 08:41:08 am no one should ever turn hogs loose. This aint bassfishing boys.The buyer I use kills any hogs he cant use. I know he shot 60 one day. Any ethical hoghunter would not catch and release any wild hog. The pig population does not need uor help. Managing a hog herd is unethical? Preacher1, according to you I am a unethical hunter. Hog management is not unethical in my eyes and getting Brucilosis is a chance anyone takes when they mess with a wild hog. Its in the same category as Lime desease and ticks, and getting struck by lightning in my book. Lots of places need the hogs killed and gone I agree but not all of them. Im all about controlling the population in any place but that doesnt always involve killing every hog you catch. Dont get me started on hog hunting ethics. There are more irresponsible hog hunters running around in the woods these days than ever. Poaching, disrespect and no regard for land owners are a much bigger problem than cutting a few hogs loose. Do you think every legal deer that walks past you in the woods should be shot? Do you think that every bass in a given body of water should be released? It all depends on were you hunt and fish, regulations and land owner requirments in my book. If keeping a few bass to eat from a overpopulated pond and releasing good barrs on a given property that doesnt have many hogs is unethical then throw me under the bus. Just dont call me hungry!!! ;) Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: sfboarbuster on November 22, 2010, 08:51:26 am Ninja, you took the words right out of my mouth!
Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: Circle C on November 22, 2010, 08:52:08 am no one should ever turn hogs loose. This aint bassfishing boys.The buyer I use kills any hogs he cant use. I know he shot 60 one day. Any ethical hoghunter would not catch and release any wild hog. The pig population does not need uor help. Managing a hog herd is unethical? Preacher1, according to you I am a unethical hunter. Hog management is not unethical in my eyes and getting Brucilosis is a chance anyone takes when they mess with a wild hog. Its in the same category as Lime desease and ticks, and getting struck by lightning in my book. Lots of places need the hogs killed and gone I agree but not all of them. Im all about controlling the population in any place but that doesnt always involve killing every hog you catch. Dont get me started on hog hunting ethics. There are more irresponsible hog hunters running around in the woods these days than ever. Poaching, disrespect and no regard for land owners are a much bigger problem than cutting a few hogs loose. Do you think every legal deer that walks past you in the woods should be shot? Do you think that every bass in a given body of water should be released? It all depends on were you hunt and fish, regulations and land owner requirments in my book. If keeping a few bass to eat from a overpopulated pond and releasing good barrs on a given property that doesnt have many hogs is unethical then throw me under the bus. Just dont call me hungry!!! ;) "Ninja, you took the words right out of my mouth!" Ditto!!!!!! Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: sfboarbuster on November 22, 2010, 08:56:59 am The one thing that I really hate is when people try to put their opinions on you. If you go and kill every hog you catch then thats fine, just don't try and tell me the way I am doing it is wrong!
If it is not DIRECTLY hurting you then keep it to yourself.... Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: preacher1 on November 24, 2010, 10:59:11 am you guys are amazing. I get on here and enjoy reading all of the comments. Once in a blue moon I will log on and comment.( I don't have to log on to read what yall say and neither does anyone else landowners ,activists,etc) Maybe "ethical" was the wrong word to use with all you "lawabiding"wild boar hunters. Maybe ILLEGAL would be a better word for the release of a captured wild hog in the state of Texas. I'm not saying all wild hogs should be killed , but as I read it , if we catch one there are laws regulating how and where it can be released. I finally think I understand why the members on here won't even list their hometown. All this is just my opinion. I aint asking a dang one of you to do or change the way you hunt. Get it through you heads we are on the same side. Just think about who could be reading your comments and the image we are projecting on here. At least that's what the moderators on here caution us about from time to time. Of course I know there are those of you on here who would just as soon kick anyone's butt who disagrees with how you do things.But daddy always said "there's more than one way to kil;l a cat beside choking him on butter ". Good hunting boys. I'm not the enemy.
Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: BarrNinja on November 24, 2010, 02:00:20 pm you guys are amazing. I get on here and enjoy reading all of the comments. Once in a blue moon I will log on and comment.( I don't have to log on to read what yall say and neither does anyone else landowners ,activists,etc) Maybe "ethical" was the wrong word to use with all you "lawabiding"wild boar hunters. Maybe ILLEGAL would be a better word for the release of a captured wild hog in the state of Texas. I'm not saying all wild hogs should be killed , but as I read it , if we catch one there are laws regulating how and where it can be released. I finally think I understand why the members on here won't even list their hometown. All this is just my opinion. I aint asking a dang one of you to do or change the way you hunt. Get it through you heads we are on the same side. Just think about who could be reading your comments and the image we are projecting on here. At least that's what the moderators on here caution us about from time to time. Of course I know there are those of you on here who would just as soon kick anyone's butt who disagrees with how you do things.But daddy always said "there's more than one way to kil;l a cat beside choking him on butter ". Good hunting boys. I'm not the enemy. I guess I have gone from unethical to illegal in one thread according to you sir. Well Preacher1, I think I need to be educated a little. I have a question for you if you don’t mind. Where can I read up on wild hog laws in Texas like you have? That would be good information to share on this board. I could be wrong but it seems to me that you think we are outlaws and release hogs without landowner/rancher consent. If so then you are dead wrong but I can only speak for myself and the other “law abiding wild boar hunters” as you call us. I am detecting a little sarcasm there by the way. ??? I currently only have one place that I can release hogs on and the landowner is happy about it. I am thankful for it because the place needs the hogs for the hunting that is done out there and my cup and my freezer runneth over. I just hauled dead hogs all the way back from Florida because we had to kill them on this place. For that, you can call me crazy but not a law breaker. I have always appreciated your comment on this board and never have considered you the enemy however, I have struggled with not being offended at being called unethical and a lawbreaker. That’s a 1st for me on this board or any other for that matter. If I took you out of context then I apologize. If in fact you do think Im unethical and a lawbreaker then come out to my home in Magnolia, Texas. We can eat wild hog sausage, study “wild hog laws” and pray for each other. Don’t forget your dogs either, I have a spot we can go and catch us a good fat barr if you need. nate, I see that I should have taken a more serious approach to this topic to start with now that I see how you feel about it. Sorry about that bud. I don’t blame you for feeling the way you do about it. Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: matt_aggie04 on November 24, 2010, 02:16:12 pm you guys are amazing. Maybe ILLEGAL would be a better word for the release of a captured wild hog in the state of Texas.I finally think I understand why the members on here won't even list their hometown. Get it through you heads we are on the same side. Just think about who could be reading your comments and the image we are projecting on here. Good hunting boys. I'm not the enemy. Have you thought about the message you are sending?? If I or anyone turn a hog loose on a piece of property that the land owner gives consent on please show me the law that has been broken. Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: Circle C on November 24, 2010, 02:20:38 pm Preacher1,
Might I suggest that you go back wherever it is that you are getting your information, and read some more... Maybe ask around and get some informed answers if you don't understand what is typed with regard to feral hogs in Texas. The laws have everything to do with transporting feral hogs. Not capturing them. Big difference. I OWN the hogs on my land, and I can do whatever I darn well please without being called a criminal. Now if I decide to take MY hog off of MY land, then it becomes an issue of transporting a feral hog in Texas. As long as I am catching hogs on my land, I can barr them, hold them and feed out, etc. (http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p204/ccoughran/feral_swine_Page_1.jpg) (http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p204/ccoughran/feral_swine_Page_2.jpg) (http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p204/ccoughran/feral_swine_Page_3.jpg) Title: Re: buying station doing wrong Post by: cward on November 24, 2010, 07:25:56 pm Well ya'll I got to say on this deal is he needs to cut some boars and turn them loose! If I wanted the hogs gone on my place or any of the ranch's I hunt they would be gone! I'm not saying for good but sure enough gone! I hunt both kinds of ranch's the one's that like'em and the one's that hate them!
The guy who is buying should keep his mouth shut if he is doing it but I don't have anything against it! There is one ranch I hunt that wants all the hogs gone and there is a neighbor who turns them loose! I went and talk to him as I knew him well!Told him everthing he puts in I am takeing out! I told him about several hogs I had caught with tags ans he said well crap you ain't going to leave me any hogs to hunt! We still talk and he don't turn any more loose! I have not got a call on any hog problems on that ranch in 2 years must of swiped'em clean! Nija explained it well!! |