EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

I have a 9mo catxab. the problem im having is she will not leave my feet  rolleyes. I have seen her as far as 50 yards, with my garmin. I have put her in a field with a 80 lb pig and she did really well. What Im wanting to know is, is there anything I could do to get her to stop humping my leg? or are me expectations to high? She also ran with other dogs but she will turn back around and and come to me. I can tell her to "get out" and she will run ahead then stop and wait... This is super frustrating to know she will do so well with the pig in front of her and then in the woods she just hangs out... Thanks in advance for any advice! ;D

She is still young! Give her a little more time and put her on some more hogs.

You do know that not all dogs are going to turn out right?

I do know that all dogs wont turn out right... but I was wantin to know how to help stear her down the right path...

if they like hogs like she does i give them a little chance but usually if they dont have the hunt they just dont got it time will tell she is still young i usually give mine till there about 18 months and then they better be getting some where ;D

Most dogs that I have seen that stay at your feet usually keep staying at your feet. Only thing to do is keep getting her on hogs and maybe hope the switch will turn on...

Try penning her with an older dog that she likes that way when you go to the woods turn them both out an mayb she will follow the dog she's used to an it might give her some confidence to go farther away from you ,  I have a black an tan coon hound an she wouldn't leave to far away but when she final started using her nose good she would strike from walking with me an get gone so now she knows she can go out an find them by her self

So do you mean on the ride out to the hunt or at home? Reason I ask is I only have 1 catch dog and 1 help dog. This kinda makes it a little difficult for me. But my buddy that I hunt with has a dog that will go out and find her own hogs. Maybe ill just pen them up on the ride out... Thanks for the advice!

all good advice, the cat ab cross would seem to me more of a catch dog type or running catch dog.
 you know there are guys like my self that hunt horse back and go thru alot of dogs looking for a catch dog that will not go hunting.  
 so she may just be geared for a differnt job than you are wanting for her.   ussually your straight cat or cur dogs are the ones that want to go hunting..

like said she is still young  but i dont think she will ever make a long range type dog.. my .02

Did you pet her and play with her as she has grown up?

Lots of people don't realize by doing this they're actually training the dog to do just what yours is doing.

ok, let me say i believe most of the time, if you baby a dog they will be more likely to be a tripping hazard but my oldest dog slept in my bed before i got married and had a steady whataburger diet and was heavily spoiled.  as soon as he is unclipped hes solid gone, and sometimes wont return for several hours. i think some dogs never get it some get better with time and for some, independence is a hardwired genetic trait.

i mean all the time at home, she may learn to to just run around with the older dog , she still young just give her time

Thanks guys! I have to say yes she has been petted and played with her hole life by me and the family. like I said previously she is doing good in an open field and once my riley dog catches she is all over it. But I think you guys are right, she is young and I do need to keep her in the woods as much as possible. Last night I took her with the other dogs and when they heard something in the wood Riley and her were 100 yards quick so that was cool. But our catch dog cought a calf and the case was on to get his ass off... needless to say im glad no one elses was there cuz I felt like an idiot! now I know its not good to trash but she was right in the mix actuly trying to get the hefer I think she got steped on or rased and that just pissed her off more.... but finaly we got him off the calf with out mama gunning us over.... but where i was going with this is she seems game once another dog is there or my Riley dog is there...

sounds like you should invest in a shock collar and do some trash breaking before you try and start pups with that pack..  just the cold hard truth. no disrespect. just trying to help out.

Game and hunt are different.  It depends on what you want or expect out of the dog.  If your wanting a catchdog, hunt shouldn't really be important.

Probably some of the best bay pen dogs alive couldn't find their feed bowl if moved to the other side of the pen.


Some can handle extra attention, most cannot.


Darn right it is, and I don't think it's something that can be taught...but I DO think it can be hindered with improper handling.

Darn right it is, and I don't think it's something that can be taught...but I DO think it can be hindered with improper handling.     <  I would take my BMC male with me checking traps and baiting when he was under 6 months, when he was 3-4 months he would dissappear when the truck door opened for a good 20-30 min. as he started getting around 6 months the time would get longer 45min- to a hour. I made the mistake of doing the on my lunch break and it got to where i had to call him back (big mistake) after calling him in a few time he started staying gone less and less time, now he's a year old and i have a hard time getting him to get gone by himself,,, with the pup trainer i have he'll go,,, but by himself leave and come back in 10min... it aggervating becuase i know i caused it.. just hope age will help get him back out of it..

You just gotta keep em on hogs tracks and either they will figure it out or just be a help dog!

I don't want anything to do with a dog that has to figure out HOW to hunt...I want one that just needs to figure out WHAT to hunt.  Effeciency in doing so comes with age.

The older I get, the more I look for the naturals.  I've owned, raised or seen very few dogs that wouldn't roll at a year to a year and a half old that ended up making the grade.

I've got to that point now, if it's near me at a year old it's gonna get culled

Thanks for all of your advice guys! I will have to just give her a little time and see if she turns out. I really dont care eaither way if she hunts or catches... both would be nice but she hangs around the feet. So im with you guys is she will not be a long range dog lol! I will for sure keep her in the wood... I just will be looking for more of a cur or cat to make a hunt dog... and not start a pup get more of a finshed or close to it... again thank you for all your help and I hope every one of you have a Merry Christmas! ;D

She's got to much Catahoula in her....lol    Just kidding guys.  I bet I got two or three twisted up with that one ;)

The truth is at that age alot of hounds and curs are still hanging around! She is still young and like Blake said just keep taking her huntin. Catch a few hogs tie the other dogs back and let her run them again, if she likes a hog that much she will probably be OK.

Humans can be a dog’s worst friend, sometimes we expect too much of them way to early. I have found through the years that a dog that likes you will work hard to please you; I have had many good dogs that I raised as pets in fact all my dogs are my hunting partners not just hunting tools!!

im just going to put this out there....i dont think giving your puppy/dog attention and handled it a lot or all the time makes a dog not turn out. i think it has a lot to do with if the dog has hunt in it and the age of the dog. i understand that some dogs stick around when you pet them but as they age and realize that when there loaded up in the dog box it is "game time" and understand that its time to hunt, there really isnt any problem. i WOULDNT love on them too much while your out in the woods(only after they find a pig) i honestly think that a dog that is super loyal or really loved will work harder to make his owner proud. The only reason i say this is because i give all my dogs a lot of attention at home as pups and adult dogs(play with them and pat them up all the time). My best dog is a black mouth that was skiddish as hell as a pup(piss all over him self) and rolled on the ground scared as hell as a puppy.  i decided right them that i needed to give this dog a hell of a lot of attention...well its been 2- 3 yrs later and the dog runs around the house, jumps up and gives hugs, plays with my son , will not let anyone out of there truck with out some one at the house and is spoiled rotten. as soon as you drop the tail gait he is a different dog. he gets out and hunts and it almost seems as if he is trying to impress us. i am tylers wife and maybe females think differently but from what ive seen if the have the hunt in them they are going to make a dog....sometimes it just takes some dogs a little longer(depending on how many hogs hes been on in the woods) to realize what yall are doing and what his job is. just my opinion....hope it helps, mrs k bar