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Do yall know of a reason why a Running Catch Dog could not be used as a Regular Catch Dog?  ???

I have seen more than one post that has said that they wanted a Catch Dog... not a Running Catch Dog.

My theory has always been that a Running Catch Dog can always be used as a Regular Catch Dog, but a Regular Catch Dog can not always be used as a Running Catch Dog.

maybe they are worried that a running catch dog would be tougher to control leading in. not saying that's true at all, but maybe that's their fear of getting one...

There's no reason I know of that they couldn't. As long as they'll walk on lead they're good to go.

Just because a dog is a catchdog (not running catchdog) doesn't mean you have to put it on a lead either. Some folks hunt there catchdogs off lead as well. It's just how the dog was trained.

I have a 1/2 pit, 1/2 cur catch dog that used to be a running catch dog. He worked well for 3 yrs but he changed for some reason and now every time he gets around another dog who is alpha male they get into it bad. So when I let him be a running catch dog if he makes it to a bay and the hog breaks the dogs  lock up and I end up breaking a dog fight up instead of catching a hog. Works good when I run him with gips. It also will tire a dog out that is not used to being a running catch dog trying to keep up.

Maybe they think that a running catch dog does not catch as hard as a regular catch dog. 

Waylon 

That is exactly my thought. I have never seen a running catch dog that was caught the way that I want. Every one of them has done just as much mauling or re-gripping as it did catching. A lot of what I have seen called a running catch dog I would consider nothing more than a gritty bay dog. Certainly not one that I would want to trust to hold on till the end.

I'm sure that there are exceptions but that is my .02

Steve

Just my opinion but running catch dogs do not catch as hard as a straight up catch dog.....Now there are exceptions but not the norm..The reason i say this is cause running catch dogs are usually crossed with a cur of some sort to give them the endurance that a bulldog does not have. Now with all that said one of the best catch dogs i know is a catbulldog. So like everyone has told me it really dosnt matter as long as they get the job done the way you want it done. Im trying to stay away from crosses because of the bad experinces ive personally had. does not make them bad just my own preferences. I know guys who only use pit/ cur dogs for catch. Just not my style. its kinda like clothes there are all different styles but serve the same purpose cover our rear.... ;D

Those are all misconceptions...

A good running catch dog is basically a catch dog, smart enough to be turned loose and not do some thing stupid. Catches like a catch dog but runs and handles like a strike dog.

THey can do both because they smart dogs with a good handle.

IF your "Running Catch Dog" backs out some times than it is just a gritty dog,,, not a Running Catch Dog.

Personally I try to find Running Catch Dogs, especially from guys who hunt horse back. They have an excellent handle, are smart, cool running dogs. They can always be lead in or kicked out a box... That is like a math mathematician going back and taking Algebra II.

Not saying to switch from catch dogs to running catch dogs, becuase running catch dogs are not good every where. BUT if you have running catch dogs you can use them both ways, if needed.

The dogs that yall are all talking about are junk.... but then alot of people keep regular catch dogs around that do that crap also. :D

we use a combo of both but i dont care for them the 2 other guys i hunt with use them. they are always cut down when i get there with my bulldog ;)

THat ain't worth a flip... I know a few places that will make them wish they had lead their dogs in. Running catch don't work every where.

the brush is to thick and the hogs got some big teeth. The rancher killed one that went 5 inches.

Yup, that right there is a good way to get RDDs killed in a hurry. They get far and you can't get through the brush fast enough. :(

Yup my buddy lost one about a month or so ago because of that. theyd try to catch and hed fight but when they would  get close hed break and run. did that for a coupke of hours and not sure how it ended but got all the dogs back but her. i missed out on that one fillin feeders at the lease.

I'm not saying its true.  Just that some people could have that perseption.

The problem is that a lot of these 1/2 this 1/2 that dogs that are called running catch dog arent catch dogs at all, ofcorse that is true of many lead in catch dogs also. Just because it will catch a hog doesnt make it a catch dog.

A catch dog is a dog that will catch and hold any hog by himself until death or he is physically removed from the hog.  If he wont do that (every time) he is just a gritty dog.

A RCD should hit and hold as hard as a CD. A RCD is expected to be longer winded, faster, and cooler  running. If a RCD bays out or lets go on you that it should be concidered a rough dog or stop dog not RCD. You should be able to use a RCD as a lead in dog and count on him to give you 100%. With that being said IMO its not a good idea to use a RCD in areas where it could take you long period of time to get to them. Not to mention I kinda like to sneak in and watch a good bay..... ;D

 We have a purebred catahoula straight catch dog who has to be broken off with a break stick and no re gripping or mauling. She's also about 80 lbs. She used to be a running catch dog, but we have led her in recently to conserve her energy. She is always the last one off the hog when she's caught, and she's always got the ear.

M

Hey Clay you are you are always bragging about your catchdogs.But you are always begging me to bring my running catch dogs because their are always the last ones out cutup all the time and they never QUIT when they get their EYE SCRATCHED!!!  :'( :'(  LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 ;D ;D Wat you trying to say about good ole Clay's catch dog............ ;)

scratched huh.... ;) Looks like its healing up finally the sack is not hangin out anymore.

Brute and C.Miller hit the nail on the head... a catch dog catches a hog... period. If they ever back up and bark, then they are just rough bay dogs that will probably catch 95% of whats out there. I hear stories all the time about people getting on bad hogs and their "catch dogs" back up and start baying... those aren't catch dogs!

My old Clifford dog was originally used as a RCD... until he started going out and finding his own hogs. Now he's strictly lead in.

Most RCD's that i've seen are crossed with cur dogs. The hardest catching dogs i've ever seen have been cat/ab or cat/dogo crosses.

I've seen pits that will bay the hair off a hog, AB's run back to the truck and dogo's bark once and piss on a bush... just because its a bulldog doesn't make it a catch dog. ;)

Thaaats right ;D

Some one responded on another thread and said....
 
FOr people who lead in big catch dog (80+ lbs) a typical RCD would be too small for their taste.

I agree... that makes sense. SO simple... I was thinking alot harder than necessary. ;D