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Someone sent me a link to this press release. http://www.l3outdoors.com/pdfs/L3outdoorspressrelease201101.pdf (http://www.l3outdoors.com/pdfs/L3outdoorspressrelease201101.pdf)

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Is it Sunday yet ??? ;D

I saw it Matt. No turning back. Lol.  ;D

Is that an article that l3 outdoors wrote about themselves?  ??? Unless they copy the article from somewhere else and pasted it on a form with their logo and contact info......kind of interesting...

By the looks of this thread, they are already have many ETHD members questioning them....  :o

http://www.easttexashogdoggers.com/forum/index.php?topic=13340.0

t. wilbanks,

     I made a post referencing that thread earlier, but decided to remove my post... I'll try to stay positive and just say that I hope they have learned from past mistakes, and that they try to improve the image of ALL hog doggers. ;)

I didn't read past the first paragraph.....he is NOT representing TX!!!!  He is representing himself and his love affair with his style. PERIOD!  Tigers do not change their stripes....ever.

I'm glad I have a trash can near by I can puke in....... 

X2!!

Just for clarification, I am not promoting L3, the style of hunting, the individuals, etc.  I was also unaware of the thread back in February of last year.  Someone emailed me the link because they knew I loved hog hunting, and simply posted it here for everyones information.  The quote Tigers do not change their striped leads me to believe there has been some bad blood in the past.  I did not mean to stir the pot.

Chris,

I think everybody would agree with you on that!!  ;)
I guess we will find out Sunday night...

I still talk to them some and from what I have heard it aught to support his hunting style and hog hunting in general know there is some animosity but they are still hog doggers and they do catch hogs I have to give him credit he is trying

   Sweet, cant wait to watch.

TOOOOO LATE SP..........Now you are wearing a big BULLSEYE....lol

I've talk to Josh from L3 outdoors many times. Idk about the feb. thread but I will be sure to look it up.
He likes to hunt Aussie style and uses staghounds. A cross of Irish wolfhound and greatdane. He also is big breastplates a piece vest with the collar attached. He's always willing to help and lead people in the right dir. May be a bit of a self promoter but you can't fault him for trying to promote is company. IMO
looking forward to watching this Sunday hope it turns out well

thx t wilbanks >:D i just read the feb link for an hour... all 6 pages, now i am up to speed. i will waiting to watch his show with baited breath rolleyes i hope he cleaned up his act a little scince now he will have a national audience

I would think the most difficult part of the filming was him actually catching a pig.  This should be really good....and intelligent.  rolleyes

I've gotta see this I'm gonna keep the dogs in fir this one  ;)

Well, i dont know them from adam,  but if you have to throw your fellow hog doggers in the creek like he did,, to promote your "whatever" he aint gettin NO credit from me.  Im glad i dont have any kind of satalite.

I try my best to stay way out of these heated debates, but that just rubbed me the wrong way.  The way I understood it was, hes tryin to get everybody shut out, but himself.

Its bad enough with all the anti crap, we have to deal with, but to have a dogger go public with statements like that, well that just takes the cake right there!

I think i will just stop right there, probly said way too much already,   sorry for the rant. 

I guess so Raider. My reputation is ruined. Lol.  I just wish someone would post all the # 2 this ole boy did.  Sounds like interesting reading.  And to think, I was just getting ready to ask someone on here to tag along on a Hill Country hunt.  I am getting tired of all the vines in my part of the country.  Guess I will never get invited now!!!!!!!

For those of you who are not quick to judge someone you know nothing about here is this.  No i am not a one-out hunter, but my experiences with Josh have been such.  I have been bay dog hunting (maybe not owning dogs but hunting) for 14 years.  I recently moved to bigger faster dogs that do still bay on when need be, and a lot due to Josh.  I invited him to hunt my thick country and he rose to the challenge and caught 5 pigs with one dog in less then an hour, and no not by site hunting.  He quickly shut me up on judging his style.  The real reason i had to post is becuase for you younger guys or guys who don't think there God's gift to hog dogging and only been doing it for a few years you should know his character.  No were not best friends but we do talk every once and awhile.  I once had a dog on a saturday night get gutted and die on my twice, could not find a vet anywhere.  I called him and he didn't even question it and got in his car at 2am and drove nearly 2 hours and saved my dogs life.  On a second occassion my friend whom Josh does not get along with had his best cur get cut in jug vein.  Again he didn't even blink an eye when we couldn't get a dang vet to answer the phone.  He drove the same amount and saved a "bay" dogs life for someone he doesn't even like.  So before any of you begin to judge, don't ever judge a book by its cover.  Half the stuff written in that article was so twisted to what really came out of his mouth its not even funny, but some of you are too blind to see that.  Judge his hunting style but don't judge character or the fact that he is in it for just himself.  I can gaurantee most of you dogging him would never drive that far at that time in the morning to save someones dog you don't even like.  That is true facts.  do i care for his type of hunting not really, but i will take him to a fight before most others.  You can't dog someone for just being passassionate about a way they hunt.  yes sometime i think he struggles with how he types stuff on forums but how it comes out i promise you he means well.

Mat,

Thank you for posting this valuable info.  I think we can all relate to posting stuff that comes across as wrong to the general public. 

There may be a few that judge him and his style, but i think the main thing that ruffled feathers was the fact that he put down the way alot of others hunt. I dont see any reason to go into detail about it, because its all there in the article for everyone to see.

And what gets me is that if you say that what the article says is so twisted from what was actually said , why would he allow them to " twist " it a second time?  ???  I would think that if they did screw up his words enough to make is seem like he was against pack hunting and make the hog dogging community look down on him, he wouldnt take the chance of letting it happen a second time.   :(

Hopefully this time around will go better for him than the last. Because whatever they decide to show, good or bad, will be shining the light on ALL of us hog doggers. And in the end, its not going to be how we hog doggers see it, it will be how the outside world see it. IMO  All i can say now is GOOD LUCK!

the ad that was posted by "sp" was not written by him nor his wife, it was written by either discovery channel or a reporter.  Once you go public with Discovery Channel your in there hands.  Josh or anyone filmed can't say anything without there permission.  The lady the wrote the first article called Josh again and tried to write another article in which he turned down, becuase she made him out to be that bad person.  Im really not trying to take his side becuase Josh will be the first to tell you we disagree on a lot, but i just wanted it to be known that what seems to come out in spot light isn't always it.  I hope the show goes well.  I think a lot of people can attest though to the fact that a lot of things you say when being filmed for T.V. is not something that would really come out of your mouth.  i think a lot of this rides on Discovery Channels ability to keep it right, and not put all of us in danger.  When you sign on the dotted line like i am sure Josh did and the same with them guys on the crab hunter show that nearly got sued you don't have a say in how things are put out there.  I think there was a thread back sometime about putting this on tv and it is risky and yes all we can do is hope that L3outdoor and discovery channel do the best they can to keep it clean and positive.  WE SHALL SEE.  heck i might be finding myself a hole to hide in after the show.   ;D
 

O.K. so maybe i was a little quick to judge, but that article did have his name and logo on it. I did go to the web sight and didnt see anything like what was in the article.

From some of the above post, seems like he might be a great guy.  I have no problem at all with a man passionate about his style, or type of hunting, and cant blame him for promoting his style and/or company.

If it works for you, great, it dont matter if your runnin german shepards, if you enjoy it and it works for you, I say more power to you.  I am for any and all means or methods of hunting with dogs,

Now, the way i took the article was, they were trying to eliminate, everyone that hunted more than one dog, and that josh was the only person that knew anything about catchin hogs. 

Well, guess what im tryin to say, I might have stuck my nose in a little too far, too fast, and if i was wrong, I apoligize. 

Hope it all works out for the best.

I have always admired a guy with BA11$ >:D

Well, guess what im tryin to say, I might have stuck my nose in a little too far, too fast, and if i was wrong, I apoligize. 

Hope it all works out for the best.
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Tnhillbilly, no apoligy needed, here i my deal.  maybe i am naive in that i trust and like everyone until they do something wrong to me.  I can't tell you how many times i have invited someone to hunt with me and then they try and take my place out from under me, its funny bc it won't happen, but if someone wants to talk about there character boy i'm right there with you.  We all can judge a style of hunting.  Open to close, lose to rough, one dog to many dogs, we all try and plead our case as to what is best and there is nothing wrong with that.  Some people are better with words then others and Josh is one that is not, and if he could post on her i am pretty sure he would agree with me.  What bothers me is when people judge someone's personal character when they have never even spoke to the guy or come in contact with him once in there life.  i would have posted this for anyone not just Josh.   

Josh is welcome to post on here, actually would be nice to hear what he says about it all

That old thread rubbed me wrong as a hog hunter but Im going to give these folks the benefit of the doubt and hope that they do a good job with our sport in the public eye.
I have never been down on one out hunters. I hope they keep it looking good for the rest of us. I'll be watching closely.

and with ninja lurking in the lazy boy not a thing will git by him not one single snack cake i mean not one word thats what i ment o no i hope i do not get ninja this week :)

Lol jesse that is funny

Here is my deal,  I was already a little ill from a totaly unrelated matter when i read the article. Somehow i missed the first go around, but cought up on all of it last night. 

Now, had i known this horse had already been beatin to DEATH, I never would have said a word.  But not knowing all the FACTS, i should have probly kept my mouth shut anyway.

Now having said all of that, I will say again one last time, what has already been said more than once, which for some reason, cant be understood by a few, 
It didnt have NOT ONE SINGLE THING, to do with his. style, promotion, whatever.   It was all about,  humane, cant take care of there dogs, their dogs are gonna cross fences, frenzy.  just plain trash talkin people that use packs.  PERIOD!!!

Now he may be the nicest, friendliest, stand up guy in the world, but if he endorses statements like that, or even if they were taken out of context, twisted or whatever,  at least be man enough to explain, "hey, i didnt say that crap"     ;D

i am teaching my dogs the ninja way to read and cross a fence means no little debbie for thim more for us right :)       

LOL!!!!!   very much needed humor. 

hek i lied my dog told me what thim black and orange things in the trees were now as far as a fences go i cant figger out how to open it :)  trying out for new job ccomedian not making much money doggen haha funny hu

Stay away from my snake cakes and Little Debbies and you will be fine jesse!  ;D

i can sneak up on a little debbie box like you never seen i got bigfoot moves . thay dont even know i thair :)

Maybe I missed it somewhere, but is there a time that this is supposed to air on discovery channel?

9 PM tonight on the Discovery Channel. I am waiting to see if he says what I was told second hand what he plans to say. I wont repeat it because I didnt get it first hand, but if he does, y'all will be pissed.

uh oh......

Nothing like keeping everyone in suspense for a while  ;D

Cant help it. Id repeat it if it was told directly to me.  :-X

Should be interesting?

yall let me now how it goes i got to go bigfoot huntin i am the only one in texas that can get him got to have a pack of plotts and a box or two of little debbie bigfoot or a ninja bout the same :)

Exactly what is the name of this show, i might have to sneak up to the break room and watch it.

I think its called "Hogs Gone Wild".

O.K. Thanks, pig bomb comes on at 8:00, and i still aint seen it yet, and didnt think it was it.  I will have to check the guide and see if it even comes on up here. I think they have cable here at the plant.

well im going to dvr it and have to see what this is all about

like i said i am a little naive, but i can tell you i will take up for someone as long as what they say or do doesn't hurt what i believe in.  After the show there could be chance i am right there with you guys.    :o i might be posting in a totally different manner after the show.  like sorry for my stupidity or uh oh i should have listened to you guys, or i need to just stop trusting people period. 

 hog gone wild  comes on 9 pm center on discovery via dish
pig bomb on now
        Dexter

Direct TV

10:00 PM EST

TONIGHT

I just watched the "Pig Bomb", and it was good.

Only thing I didnt like was the scientist saying state and federal agencies were doing everything in their power to control the pig population; but hog doggin, traps and gun hunting just isnt enough.... I guess they didnt know that the state has taken away our rights to use dogs in the SHNF. Maybe this is their process of getting the lethal poisons approved ???

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9 PM tonight on the Discovery Channel. I am waiting to see if he says what I was told second hand what he plans to say. I wont repeat it because I didnt get it first hand, but if he does, y'all will be pissed.
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Will you confirm whether it was said after the show?

9 PM tonight on the Discovery Channel. I am waiting to see if he says what I was told second hand what he plans to say. I wont repeat it because I didnt get it first hand, but if he does, y'all will be pissed.
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Will you confirm whether it was said after the show?
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Yes I will. And one person on here knows as well so if needed , they can be a witness.

i think bobby's working for the discovery channel.  ain't nobody on this board gonna miss that show now  ;D

Does anyone know who the guy was with the dogs on Pig Bomb?

Great! Pig Bomb comes on again right after it!    rolleyes

LOL
1500 lb hogs that can run 70 mph crap man we have got to start breedin our dogs bigger!

Ahhh cward u just will have to get u a couple more 15 pound cds

I've seen the show plenty before today, but I had never heard the 70MPH before tonight. Where do they get this info?  Most likely from the same guys catching 220# boar hogs, and saying they were 450#'s I guess. Freaking hog hunting with cheetahs I guess is next.  :D

"with tusks as big as elephants"

I heard the 70mph elephant hog bit the last time I saw that.

I wonder how a one out dog would handle that???

With a blind fold!

I'm speechless

this aint going to be good for us as hog hunter bunny huggers  will be raising hell and use for ammo just my 2cent

its on here

While certainly not impressed by the "beasts" as described, I think they've done a decent job of editing so far...

I think them Flo rida boys need some of my Plott power!I wont put up with them winning dogs!

Hogs can hunt you down and kill you according to this show. I'm getting out of hotdogging while I can still walk. This is way too dangerous for a regular man like me. B ;)

Discovery made me dumber than what I already am!
This is why my wife would not sign the contracts because they wanted them to lie on the shows and build fake stories!

A hogs diet is small children my kids will never be able to go outside again!

I just have a real hard stomaching all the theatrical crap that they add to the footage in editing and the hokie way they encourage everyone to act.....

The Florida crew may want to look into some new vests, neoprene is not to sturdy.....

AND the ho they cought "near the school yard" in Florida was a barr hahaha

all i got to see was them catch that PRIZED sow. and the fla boys in the swamp bout to get eat by a gator. lol.  had to get back to babysit my rookie, runnin some VERY EXPENSIVE computer numeric controlled machines. lol   

I know yuns will let me know how it ends ;D

So far it's looking like when the hogs are through with Texas, Florida, and Hawaii, the will be headed to our Nations capital to overthrow our Government!!! :o I can hear those trumpets sounding now folks!!!  

With his Wetters knocked out! Someome wanted his teeth to grow!

A barr wit his wetters knocked out no less  ;D ............ damn! Chance can type faster than me!!!

gezzzzzzzzzzz  some lame  BS


joshhhhhhhhh
  awwww such drama  hog hunting brings

I think most of these type shows are complete BS.  The only thig I found cool so far is the footage from the dog cam, definitely gives you a whole new perspective.  They lights make a show of just that footage.

Chance,

I have yet to see a hog on this show that Rowdy would not have caught and thrown by himself.  ;D

o for yall that missed it  it come back on at midnight   on dish

yeah that dog cam view was cool

OMG They are holding people hostage in their own homes in Hawaii also! I feel like Im in that Mel Gibson move "Signs"!

That dog cam shot was pretty cool!  Damn my slow typing!!! ;D

That was great! It's ok to leg the hog :D...and I thought one out wasn't sight hunting ???

wish the hog where i hunt would come lookin for me it would give my potlikers a chance to look like real hogdogs

I could do without discoveries commentary but other than that it has been alright. The dog cam is real cool. Josh has done pretty good I think also.

Not "quite" enough holding power I guess  ;D

The beast about killed Josh. Good thing he hunts "holders".   ;D

Dog cam is cool.

L3 needs to put up the dogs and pick up a rifle.... if its all about being efficient, just shoot the darn things.
 Heck, they are in the open and walking the dogs to the hogs.

Noah...what kinda vest you guys using down there....neopreme???  ;D

to big to bring out alive,,, 90 degrees  how long yall think that hogs going to be good to eat
        

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 :laugh:

He can praise one out all he want but you aint gonna catch me doin it.  I have yet to have one break with six or so dogs on it.  I like my butt to much to take a chance like that.

there goes the HIGHLY TRAINED/SKILLED DOGS

^5  on the holder and one out  still seems a little like weak dish water

This dude on the island is a puss. Just saying.  ;)

? why would a group  of "hog doggers " want to make themselves look like
 fools in the eyes of their own

I like the headlamp in the sunlight.  

Hey next Sunday night it is " Feral Fight " Hogs rampage thru a gated community in Florida and threaten a cattle herd in TX . 9Pm on Discovery

I do wish they could have found a narrator that said hog or hawg, not hahg!!

Ditto

At the very end it showed Riddick fighting a hog. He has been hyped as strictly a holder. It also showed hogs fleeing from him. What? ???

Well the footage was good!
But all that BS narrateing is for the birds!

Hey now!  ;D  I'm just suprised that bunch of boys even used a vest...  must've been 'cuz they was on the TV!!!  ;D

He did not say what I heard he would say. But I am guessing he will be the star attraction next week protecting the large cattle herd. Will wait and see.

 Well one out probably is the way to go when hunting high fence game ranches. Like shootin fish in a barrel. I would assume that the hogs are trapped inside of the high fence so its only a matter of time before a dog would find them. But if my catch dog turned a hog loose on me on national television..... >:( we would have to have a meeting of the minds!!!! How embarrassing!

I'm not even sure he really did turn loose. I think that was simply acting to show "how dangerous" they are.

He told me last year in Hallettsville that his holding dogs would walk with the hog and just keep them from running.  Thats what kept them from getting cut.  All I saw was an oversized catch dog fighting a pig.  Just my oppinion.  I'm just glad they were'nt bashing pack hunters.  

Kinda the same way Crystal acted like she wasn't afraid on her first DVD.  >:D

Overall, not bad.  Good editing, a few stretched truths... but for the good of hog hunters I think...

Josh may want to think about runnin' a second one out dog though I think!!!  ;D  

I think the hog actually dragged him, I couldnt tell for sure though? Yall aint catchin very big hogs if the hog cant move with some dogs on him  ;D

guess ole highly trained reddick couldnt figure out which hog to catch, with him being totaly surrounded by them, all i could see was alot of chasing. O0

I sure wish you would quite hotdogging with that last pic you posted up ;D

Man yall fellas in texas do it different than we do in SC. lol just pickin we have close range site hunting dogs in Sc to we just call them culls not fine tuned hog catching machines.

That thought crossed my mind too

Hey gunswamp  - that was funny, and my thoughts exactly, although i am in Texas!!!

Why would I whisper hogdogging?  That makes no sense Chance the third.  ;D

I never said they cant move, just that I havent had one break away after the catch dogs were on it.

For what its worth, I am glad Josh didn't bash other doggers on the first episode.... hopefully it becomes a pattern, rather than an exception.

I think he meant hotdogging! lol We hogdoggers understand each other!

i'm glad that i'm not the only one who that bothers!

like i've said before, i'm not really a hog hunter. i'm just a guy with a few cur dogs that chase a cow now and then, and maybe a hog if they run across one, but here's my take on the show,

like pig bomb, this show was kinda cheesy and over-dramatic.  but all in all, seems like both shows portray dog hunting as part of the solution to an epidemic.   i think that's a good thing, especially since in this day and age, it wouldnt have surprised me if they had filmed footage, then turned it into an anti-hunting show. sure, they could have done a better job of it, but dang sure coulda been alot worse too.

but if i had a one-out dog, and a hog had HIM caught, instead of the other way around, i might have to re-think one-out huntin. just sayin....
but then again, i've never been known for using to few dogs  ;D

Not a bad show. Maybe one of these days the will have a show that will follow a person or group that will give all hog doggers a good name.  

Hardly the case....if anything they run more within a game fence...high fence, low fence...the hogs are free ranging.

The dog cam was cool, but I still say it would be better if you could screw the camera right on top of the dogs head.

I just havnet figured out how to do it and Blade not be upset by the screws in his skull.  :o

We did put it on the dogs head!

Am I the only one on here that watched the Pig bomb that noticed that fool didn't have a vest on his white CD, but did on the other one?? What's up with that. Then they just had to show footage of the cut and talk about how big a price it was the dog paid. Seems to me like dog wouldn't have been cut up if he'd been protected. That can't be good for publistity.

Rex, I agree hardest hunts I have been on were in small high fence places...

All in all It was pretty good i joke about it but am not running anybody or there dogs down!

i liked the whole "its to big big to bring out alive " , it wasnt even very big , and i didnt know why they were acting so scary to grab ahold of it mayb they dnt trust there dog not to let go ?? then the guy in hawaii was scared to grab the sow when she was already tired out and just laying there lol all in all though it did seem to suport dog hunting

all in all i thought it was a pretty good show. i am not impressed with ole riddick though.... i could never catch a hog in my area with a sight hound. i kept saying i would like riddick to get ahold of a 300lber... now that would be a video to see. i have a feeling if he saw one that big he would go lookin for a smaller piggy to try.

hell i thought it was great. they showed you youngsters how to find a hog, go to the catch, and most of all be safe by going in to leg the beast on the end the dog was holding! ps. he was to big to be tied. old saying everbody has one opinion and ******** and if your not going to use your head you might as well have 2 of them!

Well i did, and will apologize, ;D  since he didnt bash the pack hunters.  It was a little cheesy, but thats tv for ya.

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CHEESY

Ok. All in all the footage was great but the drama about this reached, horrible, beast in the narration made me want to vomit!
I thought Josh and Chrystal represented well. I sure hope they keep it that way. I just wish I was friends with them so I could pick on her for wearing those big hoop earrings hog hunting! Lol.
She didn't run when that boar tried to work Josh over and was quick to get on a leg. She is alright in my book! That fella that was hunting with them looked like a pretty good hand to me also. It's no fun holding a pissed off boar by the ears without a dog on it. :o

I'm ready for another one but they can drop the Aussie hog whisperer after this episode for all I care. I had to fast forward past that guy before the show was over with! Between him and the narration, I may have to call in sick tomorrow!

y'all are killin me.  is there any way somebody could make a copy and put it in the mail?

did not get to watch but read all post on hear will i got two boys thay are three and two i will use thim for bait and hope it is a big old nastey boar or he will be in bad shape and pray thay dont have thar 4 or 5 dogs cause i wont ever know what hapen now i got a boar i would like some help on he has all ready took out three good dogs two cds and one strike dog i have had him bayed seven times same hog same place will not run will cut your dogs all to pieces i can get him found stoped sittin down on his but walk right up to him i mean ten feet look at him  about week a go had him stop and bayed for six hours ant got no cd left and dont own a gun so if any body has a number to this guy mabey he can give us some lesson on hog doggin my dads been runen dogs for a bout 30 years that i now a bout my dad said maybe he has a better dog or maybe we  run to many we run three bay dogs at one time  but i told him its because we run thim junkey plotts thats y we cant get it done any suggestion would be great come go

Ok, I guess i need to go hunt hogs on a high fence ranch before i go shooting off at the mouth. Just seems like it would be much easier if the hogs cant get off of the property....now with that being said, who wants to take me hunting on a high fence game ranch?  ;D ;)

 I will say that after watching the discovery channel tonight, Im glad that we hunt hogs and not moose!!! Man those things are oober dangerous!  ???

I have a feelin ol riddick will catch some bigger hogs later in the series.... thats just a guess, I dont know for sure, but you cant keep a show goin without some real monsters  >:D

I thought the show was a joke but was glad to see the L3 people didnt make us look too bad.I wish they would have shown some real dogs and some real hoggdoggers.

I didnt find any humor in that.  LOL!!!

I saw a dogo that should be culled but I won't name names to protect the innocent.  :angel:

overall good job.  I knew discovery channel would make it a little to much though.  You know we sit and complain about the image of "us" and how we are scared people are going to ruin it for us, but go back and read some post on this thread and look at how many people don't truely support hog hunting with dogs. It makes me sick.  Look in the mirror. 

Also a couple of post reminded me of something too.  When i was 10 or 12 i learned that don't always listen to what people say somebody said, only listen to what you can hear people say.  A few times reading this long thread i thought i was in a high school forum for teenage girls.  All this ew someone told me this but i can't tell you.  LMAO 

I am hear to support hog hunting with dogs.  Not trying to be smart@ss.  I hope the show is a success.

Getting after Riddick for catching a sow.  Is there only boars out there, bc i think you have to have a female to make babies, or pigs would be gone?

Hunting a game proof place with dogs, easy?  that top's the cake. 

you guys in florida did good too. 

They could have found someone better to represent Florida. Maybe some people that aren't afraid to be in an ankle deep flag pond, don't act like they are scared of a hog, and actually know how to tie one  rolleyes
And the Texas crew that said that hog was to big to tie. My son would have thrown & tied him by himself & he don't weigh but about 155  ;D

Not a dogo!   rolleyes

My bad.  The big all white dog that let go of the hog that knocked him....I thought that was a dogo.

I am pretty sure Micheal was just making a comment in disbelief that it could be a dogo....."not a dogo!"

it was a joke all the way around could have got more expierienced people to do it .sorry just what i think if i had to hunt with help like that ide go by my self more often ,sorry thats what hog hunting has come to .eveybody wants to be a hog dogger lol!!! just tellin it like it is hope it dont hurt anyones feelings.

Sorry if I offended you with my comment about hunting high fence game ranches. I guess im just still a little aggrivated about some of the negative comments made towards pack hunters and that was my little dig. But thats going to happen if you down  people for their style of hunting. As a pack hunter, I dont like having my toes stepped on either. As for everyone elses comments about the show, most were about how silly hollywood portrays hog hunting and how over dramatized it was.

I think the style of hunting is fine and dont care how the dogs work, breed, size etc. In one sense they have done a good job because the show has gathered attention because of the controversial person(s) they chose to do the show. The have three groups of hog removel services and not one can really be taken seriously or depictate an effective means for catching hogs. (if there is an effective means) Nonetheless if the show was about catching hogs...they could have found a dozens hunters to do a better job.

As a person or friend Im sure the guy is good as a few of you have said. My comments stem from years of ignorant, outlandish and incorrect statements he has made on this board and others. His catching success and videos sure dont back up his comments and postings throughout the years. I really cant imagine him believing the things he has said in the past....I think he likes the attention and controversy.

It has somewhat put him in the spotlight at times, drawn attention to himself, website and now this show....not bad marketing. I give him props for that....as far as catching hogs or suppoerting hog hunting himself... ???

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They should of had the Hog Wrangler representing one man one dog hunting.
HogWrangler.com

I hope that all hog removal experts are as good as L3 outdoors,that way the population will keep exploding.We have 10 year old kids down where I live that would have had anyone of those hogs flipped and tied in no time flat.I personally would have been embarrassed to have that on for the TV for the world to see.

I've heard that he is going to be doing a show on A&E or History channel this spring

exactly

Dinah, the 1st time I hunted a high fenced place, well, it "was" like shooting fish in a barrel!!! Just as I expected without ever doing it before hand! That place must have been an exception because I have had nothing but tough hunts on em since!
You are one of the sweetest contributors on this board so I wouldnt worry about offending anyone! Matter of fact, if you do offend someone then maybe its there problem and not yours. ;)

Nothing wrong with keeping it real but, stop being so nice all the time! Its making the rest of us look bad!  ;D

 Thanks Alan. You are a good friend and the best ninja EVER!!!!!  ;D

haha! Thanks! So far this year Im just a sowNinja! I havent caught the 1st good boar yet and January is running out!

If this thread keeps running, maybe I will win a prize for starting the longest in ETHD History!  Nothing big Mike, but maybe a new cut vest or something? :) 

That dogo is not L3's dog, and if you asked him he would probably tell its a cull also lol. Josh isnt much of a dogo fan, so hey! most people on here and him have something in common  :P , but ill take my dogo over any of yalls pits  :o ... but i have been told I got lucky with him and his abilities.

I dont think L3 will tell us anything because he dont seem to have the wherewithal to get on here and do it. Guess he is too busy re-writing the boarhound standards.

I watched it again and there was some good and a lot of bad. The narrator's " Hahg ", the scripted way it was done, Crocodile Dundee saying he was going to take it to the hogs and gets his bow. 

And most of all, taking 1 or 2 hahgs and then making out like the Flower Child in HI was now safe, or tye school kids were safe, or the deer .

But, if any of you have ever been around sure enough city type folks that have never been in the woods, much less hog hunting, I can assure you a lot of them thought that stuff was super hero like. I have friends in other states I send pics to all the time and they act as if legging and sticking a hog has to be the ultimate. I know its a rush, but for folks that have never, well it is almost unimaginable to them.

And that is where this show can score points. And points is what we need.

And dont forget there is another episode next Sunday at the same time. My DVR is set.

Please excuse me if I am coming of as rude but it's simply amazing how many ignorant know-it-alls there are in this world. Usually the most ignaorant people have the most negative stuff to say of others. I don't hunt one out but I know a fellow that frequently uses one dog while night vision hunting. He catches more hogs than 95% of the people on here (243 last year) and he is running 55 lb dogs. I run a "pack" of 4 dogs but some of ya'll are running 6-10 dogs. Why do you need so many dogs ? Are you scared of the hog ? I didn't see the show but I know Josh. Very nice fella. I bought a collar from him one time and he sent it out before he ever got money from me. How many on here would do that ? I have never seen his dogs work but who cares if they catch every hog out there. More for you to catch. Like a fella told me, lotta folks talk all kinds of smack about their hunting abilities when its the dogs doing the hard work. Hunters in general should stick together. Look at other countries and how they struggle to maintain their hunting rights. Did Josh shed a negative light on hog dogging in general ? If not, why gossip about him ? Once again sorry if I came off as rude cause I really wanted to call several folks out  ;D

I would have to agree.  Unless he does something that sheds a negative light towards hog dogging we should support him even if we don't think he has the best dogs or they had on starched shirts.  I'm sure there is very few people on here that hunt exactly the same.  Doesn't mean one is right and one is wrong.  But isn't this website to support other hog doggers even if its not how we would have done it?  Just my .02

9 more episodes to be exact!


Well dont expect nothing from the Discovery Channel Sam! lol.
I had some good laughs out of this one thats for sure! When someone posted a good one about the corny narration I would pause the show and read it to the family. We were all rolling last night! It worked out pretty good.
Who knows? It looks like its about to turn into a Dogo bashing thread. If that happens it could go another 5 pages! :D

I'm must be in the 5% that catch's more! ;D

Yeah Alan, my daughter was glued to the posts during the show and updating us glued to the tv!

Chance I was thinking along those lines too, but I am to scared to say anything!

Some of these posts are getting down right entertaining! wheres that popcorn smiley at?

I have a confession to make.........................................I had a starched shirt on while hunting last Thursday and my hunting partner had on one of those purty bedazzeled western belts Saturday. We both had startched jeans on. I have also hunted with other folks that wear startched cloths and even black cowboy hats in the woods. One guy I hunted with even had a hot pink cut collar for on one of his dogs! Even worse, I hunted with a guy that runs hounds last year and had a blast! :-[
Non of it bothered me at any time! Lord I am just a confused country boy I guess.  ???  :-[  ???  :-[

 OK I feel better now! ;D

Cough it up we are so deep into this know the worse that can happen is tha mods. get beat up!! ;D ;D

Here are the next 2 upcoming Hog Wild listings. 9PM our time.

Jan 23, 10:00 pm
(60 minutes)
   
Hogs Gone Wild
A Feral Fight
TV-PG (LV)

Feral hogs rampage through an exclusive gated community in Tampa, wipe out a crop of valuable macadamia nuts in Hawaii, and threaten a large herd of cattle on a Texas ranch.

Jan 30, 10:00 pm
(60 minutes)
   
Hogs Gone Wild
Wild Hog War
TV-PG (LV)

A mother and daughter live in fear in Hawaii when wild hogs surround their home. Texas trappers track down hogs polluting a natural water source. A 400-pound monster hog puts up a frenzied fight in Florida.

BTW, I use hot pink cut collars on all my gyps. Blue and orange on the dogs.  ;D

Hey for the guys that don't know josh used to be a member on here but is no longer. figures it is better this way things don't become more than they are.  I did not see the show was the dogo logan?

yes I believe so.....

Just to clarify... josh has never been banned and is welcome to post on ethd anytime he wants to.

Man it's funner with out him we would much rather talk about him behind his back!! J/k  ;D

yes sorry didn't mean to make it sound as he was banned sorry about that not always great with my typing.  Dang wish it wasent logan that did that I have two pups out of him.  Lol oh well how it goes I guess will see how they turn out

I think no matter who it was on the show. People would be on here with something to say....Glad it was not me in the spot light. I think I would of acted to much of a fool for TV....and on the high fence thing yeah it might be something if its small but dont see the difference when your runnin a big place. I like it because I dont have to worry about my dogs crossing a fence. I have been on some hard hunts in high fences...

Copy of my post from another thread about this...

I think alot of people deep down inside are jealous including me. I know a bunch of people the discovery channel called as well as me looking for a crew. The first they I told them was I would never do anything to shed a negative light on doggin. Hell I even found out L3 was hunting a ranch that I have been the only dogger on the last four years. Again at first a little jealous but was glad to know it was someone who wouldnt shed hog dogs in a negative light. I dont agree with everything they do and what they may or not had said in the past and yes the show was a little cheesy holleywood bs. You would hope a farmer watched that and said you know maybe we should start letting guys run dogs out at our ranch....because the fact is that for every positive light on doggin there are 10 more out there that are negative....As long as it makes doggers look like a positive and useful tool to remove hogs its a winner for the sport. People talk about wanting to stand up for rights for runnin hogs with dogs and then bash someone no matter the style, dogs or what has been said in the past is not going to help and only backfire... Just my 2 cents and only my thoughts......Long live hog doggers...

I will only admit this once but I have hunter a 65 acre pen a couple of times and let me tell u those hogs would run circles around that thing and knew the ins and outs of where to go. We caught a few for the guys but it was not the easiest thing I have ever done. Plus those dang hogs would gang up on the dogs

I hope he does  8)

Well glad yall like to bash on other peoples dogs just ask yourself do you know whos dogs you are talking about? and just for the record that wasn't on the outdoor channel so there had to be a little reasoning behind killing those pigs.

I don't know the guy but my impression of him after that ridiculous show was about the same as this.   :)

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I think yall also need to remember that for each show they probably filmed close to 100 hours for each company and each one removed several hog ( except for maybe the island bow hunter guy lol ). Then they mix and match and do the whole hollywood thing, they dont film two hogs and say ok, thats good for one show. I think with the way most people feel about josh no matter what he did with his dogs most people on here would have something negative to say about it. People have dogged on the way he hunts since he first showed up on ETHD before he even opened his mouth about the way other people hunt or whatever. If someone thinks that one out doggin doesnt work they need to order "Bloom Brothers Doggin Boars 4, Us hogs vs Aussi Dogs" They caught a couple hogs with one dog that would stomp a mud puddle in most peoples whole pack.

I think pretty much everyone here hunts a little differently and has their preference on dogs and we need to all support each other weather we agree with it or not, its still hog doggin. And when someone has a chance to shed some good light on hog doggin, no matter who they are or how they do it we should support them because they are going to help decide the future of our sport.

Ive tried hard to hold my tounge and if this gets yanked so be it but here goes.  TColt, did you go on those hunts with Bloom Bros or just watch the video?  I can gurantee you they don't own a dog that will track a hog for a mile in a free range situation nor does anyone that only hunts a dogo or craigslist great dane or wheaten rodesian ridgback.  I am all for people hunting that way if they want to.  Look at Paul T on here, he has a few dogs that he hunts "one out" or "two out" and they work for him and he will tell you that but he will also tell you they are not a end all be all way of hog removal.  That has been my issue all along, misleading statements trying to cram one style down everyones throats for no reason other than to gain attention is where I find fault in his "product".  He can be a nice a guy and all that and as long as he represents ALL of us in a positive light then I have not real issue with the show but I fear before it is all over with we are going to get a Sunday night education on why "one out" is the wave of the future and how it will solve everyones problems.  If not then I will be pleasantly suprised.....

dont get me wrong, im not strictly one out hunter. I have a dog that can do it but i dont very often. Even if im running my dogo on the ground ill usually run my little lacy with him so i have some bark to head to, if anything saves me from lookin at the garmin every few seconds. My point it that we need to just be supportive of him not matter what his style. Weather or not the bloom brothers dogs will trail a mile was not my point, my point was that they can handle big hogs. Most people on here dont own dogs, nor do they want or need to own dogs that can trail a mile, because they dont want to go treckin through the woods that far. Alot of places in Texas have so many hogs you could teach a toy poodle to strike. I dont think that there are any end all be all ways of hog removal cuz if there was we wouldnt have the hog problem we have today, but hell, if it works for you then do it. I dont think anyone should be hated on for their style of hunting.

Matt,

   You just spoke up for quite a few of us.

I bet there are a dozen or more "one out" hunters on ETHD, and you don't see anyone "bashing" them, or their method of hunting. The issue with L3 is JOSH, and his claims over the years.... not "one out".   Heck, we own and hunt a sight hound occasionally, but you won't hear us saying she is the best, the solution, etc. Just another method of hunting, that's all.

 

FOR ALL OF YOU SITTING HERE TYPING ABOUT THE "DOWNING OF A STYLE" it has been explained to you numerous times the reasons behind it, but yall keep defending his "product" that is not the issue, how thick are yalls skulls?

Now that this thread is at ten pages and I have not said a whole lot either, but rather waiting to see how Dumb this thread got, since most of those "on the DEFENSIVE" don't know the whole story and the past 3-5 years history and the OUTLANDISH claims that have been made by the hunter in question, Not by a reporter, nor by the production film crews but by the hunter himself. IF yall KNEW THE REAL HISTORY, yall would all be retracting what you are defending now, this did not start the past year and half.

One such claim was that "he catches up to twenty five hogs in one day with one dog, Where most people with bay dogs don't catch that many in a whole year", Thats the ignorance along with many other statements that have spewed from uneducated mouths, this is supposed to be a self proclaimed "proffesional"  when I would think most proffesionals would know their line of work and not be talking that crap out their mouths.
That being said he is a nice guy, and if you know what you are talking about it does not take long to pick out the BS that will promoted from one such, but then agin many of us have been around awhile and do take intrest to learn about others methods, others lines of dogs and want to see them hunt. I will say he does make valid points sometimes, but as soon as I hear the lines of "self proclamation that insults my way of hunting" I am done listening to how great this other method is. Many folks have invited the guy hunting, to have friendly hunts and discussion to see for themselves, however anybody that I know with places to hunt was not taking up on any offers, so there again, it is all  a bunch of words. I would still like to take him hunting and for him to bring his dogs, and I would be respectfull as long as I was treated with respect also.

Invitation Still STANDS

What more "SUPPORT" do you want? CheerLeaders? Drama Lamas? How many times does your way of hunted have to be offended before you decide to quit "supporting"?

I totally agree that no should be disliked for the style or way that they hunt and in my opinion that is not the case here.  He is disliked for making false statements over and over and over again about how his way is the best way.  THERE IS NO BEST WAY!!!!!!!  It is just the way that you enjoy the most.  My point in mentioning the mile trailing was not to say a dog needs to do that but to point out that a bloom bros dog isnt going to "beat" anyones pack.  And hell yeah they catch big hogs, they should they have all catch dogs and think of how much more secure they would be with two rather than one of those catch dogs on them?!

I have no problem whatsoever with only hunting 1 or 2 dogs down at a time. Most of the time we don't have over 2 dogs out and sometimes just one, I know it works if you have the right dog.. But now it just don't take a one out, highly skilled and trained dog to chase a hog he sees in a field...
I really hope this show ends up helping the image of hog dogging and maybe it will but come on now the show itself was ridiculous.. Hopefully the general public who have never been hog hunting will be impressed...

will someone please pm me a link to the thread that everyone has talked about, I been a member on here for years and must have missed it somehow. I hunt with curs and talk with josh quite a few times and never has he bashed the way I hunt. Or told me his way is better. All he has said is that his way works the best for him in the places he hunts.

Mattaggi, I didnt mean that the bloom brothers would beat anyones pack, I was just saying that one dog can take on a big hog since there has been some coments about lack of size on hogs on the show ect.

Tcolt, most of those threads were on another forum, and has since been deleted, so only the ones that read it for themselves know what was said and written.
Josh is a nice guy and has gotten better about how he speaks about others hunting, I will admit that, he is a friendly person passionate about hunting, no doubt that is never in question, and I personally like the Bloom brothers videos for entertainment and watching a dog work, I really liked the RIP dog, he spent a few days in my kennels breeding one of my females, Just as I have respect many other one & two out hunters that post here.

I would like to see and compare the different styles in person to see for myself, but hard to swallow the the dibs at the way I or ways anbody else hunts that were made in the past. I will be friendly and be polite to him any time I see him, but I won't forget the past, hopefully with time when the "claims made" of hunting are reasonable and time goes by all will better for us all, then we can all work together.

Well I understand that he offended so many people, and Im sorry that I have stirred the pot. He has never done anything that I have seen or read to offend me so I make my own mind up about him. Even though many people say the problem is josh, I have seen alot of bashing on his style and dogs. I dont see any point in holding a grudge on someone if they prove themselves better, I think the grudge holding is for 13 year old girls, no offence, Im just not the type of person who holds grudges, causes too much drama for my liken and hate is alot of baggage. My main point is that we all need to stick together, we got enough people against us, Including pretty much every other kind of hunter. Thats the last thing I want to say on the subject.

His dogs took some bashing but just from a few folks. From what I could tell that poor narrator got bashed a hell of a lot harder and noone is defending him! Poor guy!  :D

Yall all know that I have my own ways that are a little different from "normal". Chris mentioned my greyhound that happens to be THE hunting dog which stands out as my favorite I have ever owned OR hunted behind. For me to bash someone about their hunting style would be the pot calling the kettle black. I am with Krystal and Matt in that I welcome the opportunity to learn about an alternative from plain old black and white hunting. I like it, I enjoy learning, and I appreciate that it may or may not work for everyone.

A comment was made by Josh that Riddick would out run any greyhound to a hog. This was not hearsay, I sat there and heard it with my own ears and I saw who said it. After sitting there in disbelief, I decided it was best not to let my evil ego cause a scene in public - even a light hearted one - and I decided to let cooler heads prevail. Quite a while later, I called him up on the comment. Together over the phone, we figured out a win/win proposition for a match race between my hot blood and his dane with a pot for folks to put their money up one against the other. All proceeds would have gone to TDHA's coffers and one of us would have bragging rights. I liked the fella on the phone, and I can see why so many folks stand by him. He is a nice guy and I will maintain that to the day I die.

Now, what I vehemently abhor are the statements over the years which bash pack hunters. We can't control our dogs when they are in a frenzy, they run through fences and on other people's property, we can't take as good of care of our larger number of dogs and keep them healthy, one dog on a hog is more humane, among other comments - and that is just what was in print in one article. That is exclusive of any statements which have been made on the message boards which have really sent me into orbit. For those who wish to believe that the article was taken out of context, go back and re read it. It was "blah blah blah" josh said. Furthermore, IF the article's author had twisted his words to the point which made it a detrimental article to his fellow hunters, WHY on EARTH would he actively promote and endorse the article on his website? If you sit back and look at what is represented here and isolate the fact that you and I think he is underneath it all a nice guy, it is painfully obvious that pack hunters have historically been thrown under the bus in order for L3 to promote himself.

Can I accept the fact that a NICE GUY can also have a shameless self promotion side? Yes. Do I wish that he would promote himself without the negative pack hunting remarks and insinuations? You bet I do. I absolutely wish that he would not spew such remarks in a high profile way. We get that he believes his way to be superior. Hey, if we didn't think each of our own little methods of hunting were superior, we wouldn't choose to hunt the ways we do, would we? Part of the reason L3 is chided is because from the first time he appeared on the hog dogging scene (I remember Contest 2008) with his ridgeback dog Capstick, the story has been changing almost constantly. If you spoke to him at his booth at that expo, his admitted first hog dog Capstick was three years old, if I remember correctly, and was started on hogs at age two. Riddick was his first dane for hunting, and was acquired from craigslist and started in Mr Mason's pen in the summer of  2008 (if memory serves). See, over the years this has morphed into 17 years of hog dogging experience and a lifetime of dedication to the Boarhound. What are we to believe when the statements change so? It is for statements such as this that people find it in them to ridicule. Am I jealous of him? Absolutely not. I have never seen a person who has caused so much torment for himself through the process of trying to make his living. It is not that hog doggers are looking for someone to hate on, just look at the many different personalities that call each other friends on this site alone. We don't tend to shut people out based on the kinds of dogs they hunt and that is very evident. Heck, Cutter Bay has blue ticks for crying out loud. That argument can't even begin to hold water. When someone has  bad luck with being hated on such as L3 has, he has to have brought it upon himself somehow. Those of us who were around before this website started are privy to the reasons. Some are still scratching their heads from the TB's days.

I hate it, I really do. I would like to just shake the poor fella and give him the opportunity to set the record straight. Give him the chance to tell the truth minus any form of self promotion or build up, and start over - hit the re set button. I would like a chance for this NICE GUY to lose the need to prove that his way is best and be accepted by his peers. Unfortunately, he is going to have to stop saying the negative things about pack hunters in order to gain any respect. My apologies if this post is inflamatory, I am merely pointing out what I see. I am accepting of all kinds, and I do not look at newcomers with an aire of contempt. As MANY of you know, I treat everyone with respect and open arms until they prove themselves not to be deserving. It is not Josh as a person that I don't like. It is that streak of him that is willing to down the rest of us - friends or not - for the sake of promoting what he believes to be a superior form of hunting. NONE of us win in that situation.

I was pleased that he did not down pack hunters in his most recent venture. I was happy with that. Perhaps the outcry was so over the article he promoted on his site that he learned not to throw his fellow hunters under the bus.

Cheers
M

ditto Mandi.....

Sorry for the long post. You know how carried away I get.

I didn't mention in that post that some folks see nothing wrong with people saying that one form of hunting is better/more humane than another. What I don't want to happen is for the AR folks to "concede" that they are okay with hog dogging, but that we should limit the number of dogs in the pursuit. That type of legislation would be BAD for all of us. Once you start putting words like humane into the equation and limiting the number of dogs you can run, it isn't a far step from outlawing it altogether. You can only run TWO blood trail dog on the ground at a time in most of Texas, and I believe they are outlawed in certain East Texas counties. Sometimes what appears to be someone's harmless opinion can turn into a real mess if the wrong folks get ahold of it. They will do anything to get a toe hold.
Cheers
M

That was very well put Mandi!

Im glad you took the time to put it in such good words!

I have not bashed Josh or his dogs in this thread or anywhere else. I have not defended him either for the reasons that have been posted here by Mandi and others. Its hard to tell someone to shut the heck up after the things I have seen him post and articles on his web site.

I truly hope the show is a success for L3 and all hog doggers. He emailed me today and said the next show will be a heck of a lot better! Maybe they gagged the narrator?  :D

Great post Mandi, and I fully agree.

I DO remember the TB days and all the comments, statements and outlandish claims that were made.  In fact, as I watched the show on Sunday I was reminded of one such claim that his dogs were trained to follow flashlight beams and to only catch boars.  Once again, a claim proven to be untrue.

I also remember myself and several others being basically called completely ignorant for hunting for free.  Do all you guys taking defense to this topic demand compensation from land owners you hunt for?  If not, your all wrong!

I hope I'm incorrect, but my gut feeling is that there will be a lot more to this thread once a few more episodes hit the air.

Now Boar Ninja, don't you think that there is something good to be had from that narrator? Surely SOMETHING positive will come from him.......

I can just hear it now. "Now fellas, down in Louisiana yall might have some big old toothy boars. But over here in Texas we have a little different breed. We have the meanest, biggest, ugliest, snott nosed, rip 'em up and eat 'em up Hahgs you have ever seen...... And I aim to Ninja 'em."
Cheers
M

Unfortunately, Bryant, my gut feeling is also that we will all be in for a nasty surprise in subsequent episodes. I absolutely hope that we are wrong. I just keep telling myself that he learned from the backlash he has received already from previous ventures. I just really hope we are pleasantly surprised and not surprised in the manner my gut is telling me.


Think positively.
Cheers
M

LMAO! The problem with his narration is that he will have everyone so scared and amped up over these big ole nasty hahgs, the folks with hog problems will call in the National Guard instead of us small time hog hunters!!!

x2         We have 9 more episodes to find out!

Boar Ninja,

You don't think we have already brainwashed the powers that be? Just look at those LSWDA stickers our deployed Military is already sporting! The military knows who to call when the panicked calls for Hog invasions start rolling in.

Cheers
M

It should be about how this show is shedding a positive on all doggers. So far it has in my opion it has but might change and I will be eating my words. We will see. Yeah I think its corny seeing it as people who catch hogs all the time but for alot of tree huggers or the people who are trying to change laws on dogs hopefully will give them a positive light on how hog doggers can help. Yeah they have all the trucks with logos and nice L3 shirts but why not look top notch?? For example I run a golf course. There is also a golf course and city park Im trying to get permission on. The manger and staff are a little weary of the dogs when I talk about what I do. Keep trying to get them to just let me take someone out and show them. Well got a call today from the animal control officer saying a few of them watched the show and thinks it helped out alot for my case.....A win for me...Just my thoughts...

Absolutely, Cwhite! Your way of seeing things is what betters the reputation for all hog hunters. Look professional, go in and be respectful of land owners or care takers, and put your best foot forward. As well, your friendly view of all methods of hog hunting is exactly how many of us feel. Everyone should do it their way and use what works best for them. No question. However, it has been proven in the past that some folks can't promote hog hunting in general without taking jabs at fellow hunters. It just inflames the hunters who have been publicly scorned - and since the majority of hog doggers use more than one dog, L3 gets a bad name. Again, I sincerely hope that lessons have been learned and that we can all move forward from this Discovery Channel show. There is nothing more I would rather see than for this show to be the starting point of mending fences which have been downed for the last few years. I had the manager of our galvanizing plant all kinds of up in my business saying how he watched a show on what we do. It was great publicity even though I had to explain that the size of the hog has nothing to do with whether or not we tie it up. And he also wanted to know how if that hog was giving that MAN a run for his money then how can I as a woman manage to leg hogs. Again, I explained that there was a lot done for dramatic flair and that women are perfectly capable of sealing the deal on bigger hogs. However, that was all part of the conversation that was started because of the program. It was great and I agree that carefully made programs such as this are beneficial to our sport.

THAT SAID, due to the nature of statements in the past, I am VERY nervous about what may or may not be said by this fella in subsequent episodes. It is only natural to harbor some mistrust when it has been duly earned. Once again, I am hoping for the best and I will breathe much easier when the final episode has aired and we are safe from negative commentary.
Cheers
M

LOL.......you did that on purpose :D

Chad, You are absolutely Correct, IT SHOULD BE, Thats what the original question and intention of this post was, or atleast thats what I got. Unfortunately, those that were honest and staed that they did not care for certain parts of the show were crucified as "L3" haters. Thats what aggrivates the tar out of me, reguardless of who was in it, if the show would have played out the same way, I think most of the responses would have been the same, no matter who's dogo let the hog run over the top of them. Overall the "show" and thats what my feeling on it is, another reality show, will most likely have the city folks scared to death of wild pork, but it also may leave the general public to see more liability in allowing people on their properties to be in contact with the hogs.

The comments about acting like 13 year old girls,baggage, blah, blah, blah, and forgiveness for comments made! Well I wish I was 13 year old girl again and still know what I knew now, imagine how much less tolerant I would be of someone trashing what I have learned from actuall years of experience and not just a few dogs?  
I live and forgive whom I want and you all can do what you want, You do whats best for you, and I will do whats best for me, But don't tell me your way is better and my way is less efficent or humane, unless you got the guts to put up and show me, teach me something, otherwise talk is cheap,  until then quit throwing the rest under the bus!

Great Post again Mandi,  I agree 100%

If BS and WORDS are a deal breaker thier shoud be a bunch of Memberships revoked on here!

Hey Raider
You think by now maybe the bullseye has at least been removed from my forehead? 

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I think yall also need to remember that for each show they probably filmed close to 100 hours for each company and each one removed several hog ( except for maybe the island bow hunter guy lol ). Then they mix and match and do the whole hollywood thing, they dont film two hogs and say ok, thats good for one show. I think with the way most people feel about josh no matter what he did with his dogs most people on here would have something negative to say about it. People have dogged on the way he hunts since he first showed up on ETHD before he even opened his mouth about the way other people hunt or whatever. If someone thinks that one out doggin doesnt work they need to order "Bloom Brothers Doggin Boars 4, Us hogs vs Aussi Dogs" They caught a couple hogs with one dog that would stomp a mud puddle in most peoples whole pack.

I think pretty much everyone here hunts a little differently and has their preference on dogs and we need to all support each other weather we agree with it or not, its still hog doggin. And when someone has a chance to shed some good light on hog doggin, no matter who they are or how they do it we should support them because they are going to help decide the future of our sport.
 Thank you t colt im glad someone else sees it the way i know it happens!!! its not that we all cant run our own ways we all do doggin a little diffrent and i know if we all sat down together we would see that none of us do everything exactly the same but yet we bash and bash when we see sit on tv they cant help that they got picked to do it and they roll one out style cause if one of yall got on there i promise you someone would be bashing yall to its going to happen and there is nothing we can do to fix it but just support our brothers in the hog dog word and let them see that we are not a bunch of dumb a$$ rednecks from the sticks and that we care!!!!!! CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!!!!!!!!!

SP, you are safe. Now kindly move so you aren't caught in the crossfire.

J/K


Cheers
M

Okay Folks hers the deal,

For those that want to complain about this Forum, Here are three simple suggestions

Suggestion #1
There is are alot of Message Forums where some that complain on here might feel more comfortable, and for those that self admittingly have been banned and allowed to return should be the very first to seek acceptance elswhere, rather then continue to stir the pot.

Suggestion #2
Those that don't like the posts being made, there are many other threads with alot of Happy Thoughts, to read so you don't getyour panties in a wad, if that does not work for you, see suggestion #1

Suggestion #3
Keep stirring the pot and complaining, making the admin. work overtime, keep doing what you are doing and we will issue you a passport to anywhere but here.

hog hunting with dog is as diffrent as the people that do it i hunt with alot of people and have a time or two ? diffent peoples ways but at the same time i asked to see there way of things from there eyes as long as there is tv   there going to show what they wont u are going to do what they wont and say what they wont they r ur bosses i enjoy hog hunting with people and seeing there ways but i thank this post should be over in most part the tv ch is to blam they r the ones trying to make money and hogs running over people sales if that way doggie on the ground his wife would be saying i hope it gets u good thats just the way hunting is its a fun way to have fun as long at the end of the hunt everybody is ok

lol

X2 ALADATROT,great reply.

After seeing your rig, I figured you would have to wear starched jeans to ride on it.   ;D Oh, and dont knock the black hat in the woods, I like the way it fold down over my ears when I run throught the briars and rosehedge.