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Title: snake bites Post by: arrowbar on February 13, 2011, 10:59:09 pm Now that it is starting to warm up...(ha or at least it should be). What do you guys use for snake bites, my vet gave me three syringes of dexamethasone to keep in the truck? Just curious what else you guys use?
Title: Re: snake bites Post by: TexasHogDogs on February 13, 2011, 11:05:21 pm Fill them full of dex and full of Penicillin ! As soon after the bite as you can and that is about all you can do . I had a dog get bitten three times on the neck in the middle of the chest and under the arm pit by a six footer last year . Filled him full of what I just said and kept up the dex for a few days and the penicillin for a week are two he made it threw and done fine. Call the vet and told me that I did exactly what he would have done and there is not much else you can do .
Title: Re: snake bites Post by: brw7979 on February 13, 2011, 11:05:43 pm I carry dex with me and get the dogs the rattlesnake shot. Dont know if it works but if it gives them a better chance its woth it.
Title: Re: snake bites Post by: arrowbar on February 13, 2011, 11:17:37 pm I forgot about the pen, we use combi-pen its a few of the antibiotics combined, works twice as fast and is only like 9 bucks more than pen-g
Title: Re: snake bites Post by: jerryg on February 14, 2011, 08:43:35 am Dexamethazone 1cc
benadryl keflex 2/day dmso topical on the wound area (helps with inflamation according to the vet) Title: Re: snake bites Post by: waylon-N.E. OK on February 14, 2011, 08:51:04 am I've used a stun gun it works good. I don't use no med's however it looks like I should be using some meds from the other post. I am mainly dealing with copper heads, and water moccasins not very many rattle snakes here around my country and a snake bite is rare, if I don't catch it early I keep an eye on them & just let'em tuff it out and have never lost a dog to a copperhead bite yet, rattle snake may be different though
Title: Re: snake bites Post by: leonidas on February 14, 2011, 09:29:45 am GZZZZZZZZZZZ its what i've been thinking about the last few weeks. Damn poisonous snakes..... I actually like snakes,besides the ones I can't see in the brush. Heres my 16 ft burmese
(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x303/zrumble/IMG00033.jpg) (http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x303/zrumble/BFS.jpg) (http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x303/zrumble/IMG00031.jpg) Title: Re: snake bites Post by: leonidas on February 14, 2011, 09:31:06 am Can you explain to me what the stun gun is suppose to do for a bite?
I've used a stun gun it works good. I don't use no med's however it looks like I should be using some meds from the other post. I am mainly dealing with copper heads, and water moccasins not very many rattle snakes here around my country and a snake bite is rare, if I don't catch it early I keep an eye on them & just let'em tuff it out and have never lost a dog to a copperhead bite yet, rattle snake may be different though Title: Re: snake bites Post by: Cajunjag on February 14, 2011, 09:37:52 am After having two bit last spring, I stocked up on Dex. Just remember guys, the Dex is not a cure for the snake bite, you still need to treat the underlying emergency of the venom. Give 25mg Benadryl and Cephalexin ASAP!!!! The Dex is great for helping break up the edema trapped in the soft tissue, but the benadryl will be the most useful when given as quickly as possible.
If the dog has any signs of airway constriction, haul A$$ to the vet's office! The dog can be saved if you get there in time. Most deaths on snake bites occure from airway constriction secondary to swelling, not the actual poision. Hope this helps and good topic guys! Title: Re: snake bites Post by: Cajunjag on February 14, 2011, 09:40:09 am Also, I had my dogs vaccinated on the snake bite vaccine, but the vaccine is designed for rattlers. However, my vet says it will give me some protection compared to having nothing. For $28, I got it and considered it a investment.
Title: Re: snake bites Post by: waylon-N.E. OK on February 14, 2011, 09:52:52 am leonidas if you stick the prongs into the bite and use it for about 10-15 seconds they dogs won't swell up or show hardly any ill effects from the bite, I was doubtful until I saw it used and it does work. I'm not smart enough to try and explain how it works I just know it does, it's a 2 man job but if your way out in the brush it could save a dog, or you for that matter. Here is some googled info about it, there are as many people against it as for it, I know it works. Also Some guys only use it for 5 or 6 seconds, i like use it longer
"I first heard about High Voltage/Direct Current (HVDC) or stun gun, electrical shock therapy for venomous bites in 1991 while living in Georgia where the bites of rattlesnakes and water moccasins are quite common. I read a medical article in the Georgia Medical Association Journal at that time which supported the concept. I have a copy of that article somewhere, but have been unable to locate it, when I do I will reference it on this site. HVDC has been used to treat envenomation from several sources including snake bites, spider bites, scorpion, wasp and bee stings. My sister, Dr Jean Kincaid MD PhD, who was Chief of Staff of the Public Health Service Hospital in Ada, OK was an ardent supporter of HVDC treatment for poisonous snake bites and brown recluse spider bites and found it to be quite effective." Waylon Title: Re: snake bites Post by: leonidas on February 14, 2011, 12:31:19 pm I guess my next post didn't post up. I googled it after I asked.I bet the shock sometimes gives a boost of adrenaline to somewhat counter effect the swelling kinda like a bee sting.
leonidas if you stick the prongs into the bite and use it for about 10-15 seconds they dogs won't swell up or show hardly any ill effects from the bite, I was doubtful until I saw it used and it does work. I'm not smart enough to try and explain how it works I just know it does, it's a 2 man job but if your way out in the bruash it could save a dog, or you for that matter. Here is some googled info about it, there are as many people against it as for it, I know it works. Also Some guys only use it for 5 or 6 seconds, i like use it longer "I first heard about High Voltage/Direct Current (HVDC) or stun gun, electrical shock therapy for venomous bites in 1991 while living in Georgia where the bites of rattlesnakes and water moccasins are quite common. I read a medical article in the Georgia Medical Association Journal at that time which supported the concept. I have a copy of that article somewhere, but have been unable to locate it, when I do I will reference it on this site. HVDC has been used to treat envenomation from several sources including snake bites, spider bites, scorpion, wasp and bee stings. My sister, Dr Jean Kincaid MD PhD, who was Chief of Staff of the Public Health Service Hospital in Ada, OK was an ardent supporter of HVDC treatment for poisonous snake bites and brown recluse spider bites and found it to be quite effective." Waylon Title: Re: snake bites Post by: arrowbar on February 14, 2011, 02:51:20 pm it has to do with electricity disrupting molecular bonds of the venom as well as activating the bodies immune response
Title: Re: snake bites Post by: ChaseG on February 14, 2011, 06:01:49 pm Y'all are givin me the heebie geebees. Snakes are the last thing I'm lookin forward to. Last summer I got bit last summer by a water moccasin and it put me in the hospital for five days. I prolly won't be Huntin much After I see the first one of the year
Title: Re: snake bites Post by: 5150hogdogs on February 15, 2011, 07:50:52 am I use pen and ben it works good on cotton mouths and rattlers but last oct. Had a good family friend was scouting and ran into some rattlesnakes mateing in the brush he was hit three times one time on the neck one on the kidney area and one on the leg he didn't make it 20 yrds from where they said they think he got hit so needless to say I don't think I'll be huntin this summer
Title: Re: snake bites Post by: NechesBobcat on February 15, 2011, 09:24:57 am I've got a rat terrier that likes to kill water moccasins and eat them. First time he got bit he swelled up and I gave him a syringe full of liquid Benydril. Took him to the vet and they gave him more benydril and charged me several hundred dollars. Now I just give him benydril if I catch it early. If not I just let him tough it out. My older cur got bit on the lip last year and it swelled up a little but he was fine. I think it depends on the dog. I'm sure some could have a bad reaction and die pretty quick but I doubt you'll have time to save those anyway. My dogs are in the woods everyday of the year, whether I'm huntin or they're running around at the ranch while I'm bailing hay or they're running around the little creek behind the house.
Title: Re: snake bites Post by: arrowbar on February 15, 2011, 09:30:26 am I think a lot has to do with the amount of venom injected, venom is biologically expensive to make so most of the time they will not give you all they make unless they are learning to control the release.
Title: Re: snake bites Post by: zachW on February 15, 2011, 09:34:59 am growing up i was allways told if they got bit on the head they will be fine if bit anywhere else takethem to a vet, we had alot of weiner dogs tuff out snake bites, with the head the size of a cantalope.
Title: Re: snake bites Post by: dub on February 15, 2011, 09:36:37 am Snake bite me and the only question ist big enough for a belt or just a hat band? As a kid I would go shoot the cotton mouths with my 22. I even bow hunted them. I likw a good pair of water proof snake boots. Good for water or briars. Plus if you go to step on a snake and miss the head you can laugh when it bites.
Title: Re: snake bites Post by: hogdog9 on February 15, 2011, 12:57:26 pm I dont care what kind of snake you have in that picture but if i ever saw it that head would be OFF......
Title: Re: snake bites Post by: rdjustham on February 15, 2011, 03:24:22 pm I dont care what kind of snake you have in that picture but if i ever saw it that head would be OFF...... AMEN TO THAT!!! What kind of liquid benadryl are yall using and how are you administering it? Title: Re: snake bites Post by: arrowbar on February 16, 2011, 10:15:24 am childrens benadryl
Title: Re: snake bites Post by: Hog_Hunter_57 on February 16, 2011, 01:00:39 pm Dans boots snake chaps and i am off to the races water proof and snake proof...... I HOPE!!!!!
Title: Re: snake bites Post by: kerreydw on February 16, 2011, 07:44:15 pm HAVE A FRIEND HE MADE A LONG SPARKPLUG WIRE he puts it on his truck cranks it and shocks the bite . all i know is it works and you better have a good hold of the dog .
Title: Re: snake bites Post by: zachW on March 21, 2011, 09:13:02 am was that python eating a cat?
Title: Re: snake bites Post by: dub on March 21, 2011, 09:54:30 am Bubba and Henry was out in the woods and Bubba got bit by a rattler right on his private spot. Henry being his best friend ran into town as fast as he could. Henry saw the Doc leaving his office and told Doc that Bubba needed help cuz he got bit by a rattler. The Doc said he had an emergency down the road and could not go to Bubba but all Henry had to do was suck the poison out. Henry went back to Bubba and Bubba asked where Doc was. Henry told Doc had some big emergency but he asked what to do. Bubba asked, what did Doc say? Henry said, "well Doc said you are gonna die."
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