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Title: Catch Dogs
Post by: D.S.B on March 08, 2011, 08:50:18 pm
I have one dog I plan on catching with her and hunting alone. Do I really need a second catch dog? I'm just curious because I'll be hunting alone and all the hunts I have ever been on even with other ppl we used two CD's. I had a second AB but I sold him because him and my female wouldn't stop catching each other in the yard! This question is for ppl who hunt regular and have years of experience with all diffrent approaches. If you don't have experience please don't comment I'm really trying to do my best at not losing my dog or to much of my own blood


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: Noah on March 08, 2011, 08:53:59 pm
Gotta say, after hunting with 60# CD and now a 100#+ athletic CD.... much more comfortable gettin' on a bad hog by myself with the bigger CD....


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: M Bennet on March 08, 2011, 09:01:13 pm
i care 2 and sometimes 3 . to me its just easer for 2 dogs to hold a good hog than 1 by him self. hog can through 1 cd around alot better than 2. but theres alot of hunters carry 1 cd and it works to. its realy up to you if u like it try it. but theres better hunters on this board they can help you out  better than i can. good luck


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: D.S.B on March 08, 2011, 09:05:00 pm
I understand that. I don't know what kinda CD will be yet but I can give this info 6 months old 60 lbs. I can pull her off the ground when she locks onto the rope. My twin sons hang on her rope and she drags them around the floor. I never let her bite anything on me but I do let her grab the rope while I hold it I run down the yard and move the rope from one side to the next and then my fiancée turns her lose she only missed the rope once she's accurate and I can say from the time she missed she hits hard enough to take it into the bone.


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: Bo Pugh on March 08, 2011, 09:06:59 pm
yea if its a good catch dog one is enough but it is always good to have a back up, we only have one right now and were gonna be in a jam if something happens to him, but i like to hunt with one catchdog i just like to have a extra at the house for tommorow


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: DSmith on March 08, 2011, 09:12:06 pm
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I can pull her off the ground when she locks onto the rope. My twin sons hang on her rope and she drags them around the floor. I never let her bite anything on me but I do let her grab the rope while I hold it I run down the yard and move the rope from one side to the next and then my fiancée turns her lose she only missed the rope once she's accurate and I can say from the time she missed she hits hard enough to take it into the bone.

I'd be careful playing this game.  I NEVER play tug o war with a cd, especially a pit.  In my opinion this has contributed to a lot of infant deaths.  Dog is taught to play tug o war with a rope or towel.  You got the baby laying in a crib, you or grandma goes to get the bady out of the crib and it's wrapped in a blanket.  Guess what, dog thinks it's play time.  The harder grandma pulls on the baby, the more fun the dog is having.

Just my two cents.



Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: D.S.B on March 08, 2011, 09:21:19 pm
Kemmer,
I do understand that, she is 100% American bulldog no pit in my girl. But she only gets to play with my rope no rags it a big rope with a loop tied in it. I never let her even play nip or bite anyone or anything and I whoop the fire out of her when she bit me. But I never thought of the blanket and a baby thing glad to have that insight I'll never use Rags from now on used to use them all the time.


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: redtick23 on March 08, 2011, 09:39:00 pm
we always take 2 catch dogs so if 1 gets knocked out of the game we still have  1 to finish the catch


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: DSmith on March 08, 2011, 09:39:46 pm
When you hear of these accidents with pits and babies, I can't help but wonder if this type of playing had been taught to the dog.  In it's mind, it was time to play it's favorite game.  One of those 2 + 2 must equal 4 kinda things?

 :-\

i'd just hate to hear of someone on the board having an incident that could maybe have been prevented?  I know it's cool to swing the dog around and around in the air, heck they even sell those toys at PetsMart, but it sure seems like a bad thing to teach a dog with vise grip jaws?

Hope I didn't sound like I was pickin' on you?  Believe me, I'm the test case for learning from my own mistakes.   ;D


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: C L on March 09, 2011, 06:08:42 am
While it is more to do to lead or haul 2 catchdogs rather than one, I prefer two for several reasons. First, it is easier on the dogs themselves; I think that the less a dog is slung around and hammered, the longer he will last as an agile and effective catchdog. I'm not referring to quitting, just physical damage that takes its toll over time. Two dogs caught correctly can immobilize a large hog more easily and reduce the damage the hog can do. That is better for them and the hunter, I believe, especially if you are hunting alone.



Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: Reuben on March 09, 2011, 06:35:52 am
While it is more to do to lead or haul 2 catchdogs rather than one, I prefer two for several reasons. First, it is easier on the dogs themselves; I think that the less a dog is slung around and hammered, the longer he will last as an agile and effective catchdog. I'm not referring to quitting, just physical damage that takes its toll over time. Two dogs caught correctly can immobilize a large hog more easily and reduce the damage the hog can do. That is better for them and the hunter, I believe, especially if you are hunting alone.



a catch dog can lose its canines if it is swinging on that ear.


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: HDCURS on March 09, 2011, 06:57:19 am
I have been catching hogs for years with two strike dogs and one bulldog it's really up to you but if you ever hunt by yourself two CDs are kinda hard to handle!


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: shankem on March 09, 2011, 07:09:37 am
I am on my 4th and 5th catchdog since I started this deal and had em cut down runnin one and two bulldogs. Not sure if that qualifies me to be included in your thread or not? But it does not take a mental giant to know its gonna suck if you break your dogs teeth playing in the yard. Get someone to get you a good sized hog and teach him to catch. Leading two bulldogs is rough. thanx. Lost two pits and a dogo.


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: t.wilbanks on March 09, 2011, 07:46:50 am
I have one dog I plan on catching with her and hunting alone. Do I really need a second catch dog? I'm just curious because I'll be hunting alone and all the hunts I have ever been on even with other ppl we used two CD's. I had a second AB but I sold him because him and my female wouldn't stop catching each other in the yard! This question is for ppl who hunt regular and have years of experience with all diffrent approaches. If you don't have experience please don't comment I'm really trying to do my best at not losing my dog or to much of my own blood

Kemmer,
I do understand that, she is 100% American bulldog no pit in my girl. But she only gets to play with my rope no rags it a big rope with a loop tied in it. I never let her even play nip or bite anyone or anything and I whoop the fire out of her when she bit me. But I never thought of the blanket and a baby thing glad to have that insight I'll never use Rags from now on used to use them all the time.

It doesnt take someone with years and years of experience to see that she is not a dog most would want with them in the woods, especially if your hunting alone..

If she is the kind of dog that will lock onto another dog and also bite you, she is the kind of dog that needs to be in the ground instead of in the woods, no matter how good she catches... IMO  ;)


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: D.S.B on March 09, 2011, 07:55:02 am
LMAO you bury your own dog dummy


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: t.wilbanks on March 09, 2011, 08:07:04 am
LMAO you bury your own dog dummy

Ive buried several for that reason.....

And as for "dummy", when you, your kids, or someone else get bite, you will find out who the "dummy" is....  :-X



Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: Reuben on March 09, 2011, 08:11:32 am
I treat all the bulldogs I have owned and own with lots of love and do my best to keep them socialized but am careful what type I keep. I treat them like my favorite loaded pistol.


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: BarrNinja on March 09, 2011, 08:24:10 am
CDs are like flashlights. You can get by with one but if you have more they will usually get used.
I treat all the bulldogs I have owned and own with lots of love and do my best to keep them socialized but am careful what type I keep. I treat them like my favorite loaded pistol.
very good advice Reuben!


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: D.S.B on March 09, 2011, 08:30:38 am
Let's not get into politics here but you fellas got enough heat on you due to YouTube, discovery channel blah blah. You ought not post about culling a dog! Self incrimination is the only thing that is. I'm not culling my bulldog she ain't gonna bit me or nobody else when she was fourteen weeks old I sold her full brother because they locked up a few times in the yard you can't say my female is or isn't the aggressor. She never offered to bite anyone elses dog and I socialize her regular at petsmart! I can look in my dogs eyes and know she's a good dog with intelligence. Sir I called you a dummy for the way you posted that anyone can read what we write don't post about culling... I apologize if I offended you just please be smart withwhat you say words can be entrapment especially with social media today.


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: BIG CHRIS on March 09, 2011, 08:43:16 am
lets put this to a hunting question u hunt a one out american bull dog the way im reading it is ur intentions, what are u goen to do if ur one dog is caught wont break off and the worst comes to worst, if that dog had help be another catch dog or good ole cur it has a better chance at holding that hog there not all gonna be 80lb hogs, and i do agree with t.wilbanks, a dog that bites while playen what happens when it happens in the woods with 250 lb hog with 2 1/2 in cutters and that dog has ur hand or another dog and now ur in that hogs sight?


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: slimhogdog on March 09, 2011, 08:45:22 am
Let's not get into politics here but you fellas got enough heat on you due to YouTube, discovery channel blah blah. You ought not post about culling a dog! Self incrimination is the only thing that is. I'm not culling my bulldog she ain't gonna bit me or nobody else when she was fourteen weeks old I sold her full brother because they locked up a few times in the yard you can't say my female is or isn't the aggressor. She never offered to bite anyone elses dog and I socialize her regular at petsmart! I can look in my dogs eyes and know she's a good dog with intelligence. Sir I called you a dummy for the way you posted that anyone can read what we write don't post about culling... I apologize if I offended you just please be smart withwhat you say words can be entrapment especially with social media today.

Petsmart???? rolleyes ....really???  lol


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: D.S.B on March 09, 2011, 09:01:07 am
Bunch off smarts$$ ppl got a question all the sudden I'm not country enough cuz I buy dog food at petsmart. Sorry folks I apologize for not being worthy of a hog hunting forum I'll catch my hogs how I want I'll run them with dogs I choose and I learn from my mistakes not a bunch of wise guy hole in the butts kick me off the stupid forum I don't care I met some nice ppl but yall are a bunch of pricks!


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: t.wilbanks on March 09, 2011, 09:01:15 am
Let's not get into politics here but you fellas got enough heat on you due to YouTube, discovery channel blah blah. You ought not post about culling a dog! Self incrimination is the only thing that is. I'm not culling my bulldog she ain't gonna bit me or nobody else when she was fourteen weeks old I sold her full brother because they locked up a few times in the yard you can't say my female is or isn't the aggressor. She never offered to bite anyone elses dog and I socialize her regular at petsmart! I can look in my dogs eyes and know she's a good dog with intelligence. Sir I called you a dummy for the way you posted that anyone can read what we write don't post about culling... I apologize if I offended you just please be smart withwhat you say words can be entrapment especially with social media today.

Culling is a big part of breeding and hunting dogs....just type "cull" in the search box and see what you come up with.....  ;)

I posted due to what i read.... IMO its no big deal for a couple of pups to rough around with each other, thats what pups do...
Then you posted that you whooped the fire out of her for biting you... I read your post as she was showing dog and human aggression at 6 months old...I apologize if i came off as a smarta$$  :angel:

As far as your question goes, i have hunted many many times with 1 bulldog by myself...If your strike dogs help catch, it wont be as hard on your CD....but if you get on a bad hog and only dog on him is the CD, it could be alot harder for it to control the hog, and makes it more dangerous for you also.... carrying a gun wouldnt be a bad idea for hunting alone with only one CD....imo   ;)

good luck with her...


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: BarrNinja on March 09, 2011, 09:10:23 am
Bunch off smarts$$ ppl got a question all the sudden I'm not country enough cuz I buy dog food at petsmart. Sorry folks I apologize for not being worthy of a hog hunting forum I'll catch my hogs how I want I'll run them with dogs I choose and I learn from my mistakes not a bunch of wise guy hole in the butts kick me off the stupid forum I don't care I met some nice ppl but yall are a bunch of pricks!

No need to get upset. Lots of folks have never been in a Petsmart.

I went in one last year and everyone had their dogs with them. I thinks ist a good place to start socializing a pup if you live around one from what I seen.


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: shankem on March 09, 2011, 09:24:15 am
calm down they just trien to help  but i am burnin my rope leads  and by the way i love petsmart


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: slimhogdog on March 09, 2011, 09:29:33 am
Bunch off smarts$$ ppl got a question all the sudden I'm not country enough cuz I buy dog food at petsmart. Sorry folks I apologize for not being worthy of a hog hunting forum I'll catch my hogs how I want I'll run them with dogs I choose and I learn from my mistakes not a bunch of wise guy hole in the butts kick me off the stupid forum I don't care I met some nice ppl but yall are a bunch of pricks!

I'm sorry man, didnt mean to offend you, i just never been to a Petsmart and was under the impression that it was kinda like a "tree hugger" gathering place for pets. THATS JUST WHAT I WAS TOLD, im sorry. You dont have to live in the country to catch hogs so dont let that bother you. I think its safer to use 2 catchdogs but sometimes you just got to go with what you got. Good luck


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: Mike on March 09, 2011, 09:32:04 am
Bunch off smarts$$ ppl got a question all the sudden I'm not country enough cuz I buy dog food at petsmart. Sorry folks I apologize for not being worthy of a hog hunting forum I'll catch my hogs how I want I'll run them with dogs I choose and I learn from my mistakes not a bunch of wise guy hole in the butts kick me off the stupid forum I don't care I met some nice ppl but yall are a bunch of pricks!

Well... you asked for it.


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: Circle C on March 09, 2011, 09:42:51 am
Let's not get into politics here but you fellas got enough heat on you due to YouTube, discovery channel blah blah. You ought not post about culling a dog! Self incrimination is the only thing that is. I'm not culling my bulldog she ain't gonna bit me or nobody else when she was fourteen weeks old I sold her full brother because they locked up a few times in the yard you can't say my female is or isn't the aggressor. She never offered to bite anyone elses dog and I socialize her regular at petsmart! I can look in my dogs eyes and know she's a good dog with intelligence. Sir I called you a dummy for the way you posted that anyone can read what we write don't post about culling... I apologize if I offended you just please be smart withwhat you say words can be entrapment especially with social media today.

There is absolutely 100% nothing illegal with "culling" ;) Culling can mean hauling the dog to the vet to be euthanized.  ;)  Before you jump to conclusions about how a member culls a human or dog aggressive dog, you might do well to ask a few questions first.


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: LionandBoarHunter on March 09, 2011, 10:06:46 am
Bunch off smarts$$ ppl got a question all the sudden I'm not country enough cuz I buy dog food at petsmart. Sorry folks I apologize for not being worthy of a hog hunting forum I'll catch my hogs how I want I'll run them with dogs I choose and I learn from my mistakes not a bunch of wise guy hole in the butts kick me off the stupid forum I don't care I met some nice ppl but yall are a bunch of pricks!

Well... you asked for it.
I THINK D.S.B HAS BEEN CULLED


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: t.wilbanks on March 09, 2011, 10:18:26 am
Bunch off smarts$$ ppl got a question all the sudden I'm not country enough cuz I buy dog food at petsmart. Sorry folks I apologize for not being worthy of a hog hunting forum I'll catch my hogs how I want I'll run them with dogs I choose and I learn from my mistakes not a bunch of wise guy hole in the butts kick me off the stupid forum I don't care I met some nice ppl but yall are a bunch of pricks!

Well... you asked for it.
I THINK D.S.B HAS BEEN CULLED

Guess Mike and Chris took him to the vet!!!  :angel:
I couldnt figure out what made him act like that, then i realized he was from ALABAMA and hunted WALKERS!!! that explained it!!!  ;D  
Just kidding!!!  :D 
Now i have " Major Payne" stuck in my head....." Whos the dummy now?"     O0


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: Reuben on March 09, 2011, 10:18:58 am
Let's not get into politics here but you fellas got enough heat on you due to YouTube, discovery channel blah blah. You ought not post about culling a dog! Self incrimination is the only thing that is. I'm not culling my bulldog she ain't gonna bit me or nobody else when she was fourteen weeks old I sold her full brother because they locked up a few times in the yard you can't say my female is or isn't the aggressor. She never offered to bite anyone elses dog and I socialize her regular at petsmart! I can look in my dogs eyes and know she's a good dog with intelligence. Sir I called you a dummy for the way you posted that anyone can read what we write don't post about culling... I apologize if I offended you just please be smart withwhat you say words can be entrapment especially with social media today.

There is absolutely 100% nothing illegal with "culling" ;) Culling can mean hauling the dog to the vet to be euthanized.  ;)  Before you jump to conclusions about how a member culls a human or dog aggressive dog, you might do well to ask a few questions first.

Culling can mean placing the dog in a none hog hunting family that needs a farm dog or a family that needs a watch dog or just having the dog nutered/spayed... ;)


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: chainrated on March 09, 2011, 10:23:34 am
Talk about sensitive, lol...


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: sp on March 09, 2011, 10:37:33 am
Bunch off smarts$$ ppl got a question all the sudden I'm not country enough cuz I buy dog food at petsmart. Sorry folks I apologize for not being worthy of a hog hunting forum I'll catch my hogs how I want I'll run them with dogs I choose and I learn from my mistakes not a bunch of wise guy hole in the butts kick me off the stupid forum I don't care I met some nice ppl but yall are a bunch of pricks!

Well... you asked for it.
I THINK D.S.B HAS BEEN CULLED
And done with a sense of humor


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: Cull Buck on March 09, 2011, 12:24:35 pm
Neuturing may have been a better option for DSB but culling him will certainly work.  ;D


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: slimhogdog on March 09, 2011, 01:10:25 pm
Neuturing may have been a better option for DSB but culling him will certainly work.  ;D

HAHHAHAHAHAHA, thats a good one Cull!!!! :laugh:


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: make-em-squeel on March 09, 2011, 02:33:56 pm
I posted due to what i read.... IMO its no big deal for a couple of pups to rough around with each other, thats what pups do...
Then you posted that you whooped the fire out of her for biting you... I read your post as she was showing dog and human aggression at 6 months old...I apologize if i came off as a smarta$$  :angel:

As far as your question goes, i have hunted many many times with 1 bulldog by myself...If your strike dogs help catch, it wont be as hard on your CD....but if you get on a bad hog and only dog on him is the CD, it could be alot harder for it to control the hog, and makes it more dangerous for you also.... carrying a gun wouldnt be a bad idea for hunting alone with only one CD....imo   ;)

good luck with her...
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Who could argue with that, you may only need a second cd or pistol once in a blue moon but be glad its their when you need it. Toting a pistol seems easier than 2 cds on a lead


Title: Re: Catch Dogs
Post by: BIG CHRIS on March 09, 2011, 04:27:54 pm
if we were still in grade school i bet we would all be in the office in the morn after a meeting with mommy was had u dummies ;D