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Title: Help sick pup
Post by: Dhughes on March 29, 2011, 10:19:42 pm
I have a 3/4 ridgeback 1/4 cur pup that is a little over 4 weeks old. He has slowed down on his eating in the past couple of days and is not doing too good now. I took him to the vet last week and got a parvo shot but the vet said I couldn't worm him for another 2 weeks. I know he has worms so I went ahead and wormed him tonight, he kept it down for about 2 hours then threw it up. He isn't doing good at all now. Should I give him some more wormer or other meds?
I had a little cat. pup die on me last week from what I think was parvo, but I got another one to replace it that already has its parvo shot. Is there anything I can do to help my pup?
Thanks, Daniel


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: arrowbar on March 29, 2011, 10:36:17 pm
the first parvo shot cancels any immunities acquired from the mother to reset the system so subsequent shots will work exactly like they are supposed to and build immunity so its possible that the one shot he got could have made him more vulnerable.


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: Dhughes on March 29, 2011, 10:42:41 pm
Hes thrown up a couple of times now. Is there anything I can do for him?


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: arrowbar on March 29, 2011, 10:45:03 pm
in the middle of the night....force fluids....dehydration is your enemy... force gatorade or pedialite or make your own with water or broth plus sugar and same salt.


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: Purebreedcolt on March 29, 2011, 10:50:30 pm
We used pediasure it worked wonders kept a pup alive on it even though they throw it up keep up with the fluids have to keep them hydrated


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: Bryant on March 29, 2011, 10:54:00 pm
If it's indeed Parvo, sounds to me like the mother wasn't vaccinated properly prior to her whelping.  Maternal antibodies passed through the Colostrum should last more than 3 weeks.



Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: Dhughes on March 29, 2011, 10:57:50 pm
How much sugar salt and broth should I mix?
Sorry for all questions but I've never done this before.


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: dub on March 29, 2011, 10:59:45 pm
Get an IV going! I only know of one dog to survive Parvo and it was not mine. You have to get fluids for the pup to have a chance. The poop has an obvious smell and there is no doubt what it is.


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: arrowbar on March 29, 2011, 11:18:20 pm
8 Tablespoons salt
1 teaspoon of salt iodized
two liters of water (warm or boiling and allow to cool)
I hope this helps. if the pup dehydrates to much the bacteria in the digestive track will get into the bloodstream and streamline sepsis. Keep the pup hydrated


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: Dhughes on March 29, 2011, 11:36:21 pm
Thanks I'll try to keep him hydrated


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: AnthonyB on March 29, 2011, 11:43:11 pm
I have had luck with a sub-q shot of sterile fluid at the back of the neck. They can't throw it up, so the body has no choice but to absorb it. Pedialyte also helps too. A lot of people also jump to parvo, which is the cause most of the time, but don't forget about coccidia. Almost lost a pup once treating her for parvo when she had coccidia, I've used corid and sul-met to treat it. On a sick pup I treat both to cover the bases. Hope this helps.
Anthony


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: Dhughes on March 30, 2011, 12:08:16 am
I have a 4 cc syringe that I am using to get liquids down him . How often should I give him a syringe full?


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: AnthonyB on March 30, 2011, 12:30:46 am
I always checked hydration by pulling up on the nap of their neck like you are going to pick them up. If it snaps back quickly, they are hydrated, if it slowly goes back they dehydrated. I would try a few syringes full and hour and see how hydrated it keeps him, then work from there.
Anthony


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: Dhughes on March 30, 2011, 09:43:47 am
Well I took him to the vet this morning and he said it tested high positive for parvo. They are going to put an IV in and give him antibiotics. Vet said there is a 50/50 chance he will make it, hopefully he does.
What should I do for my little cat pup to keep her from getting it besides keeping her away from where the other pup has been? Shes already been exposed to it.
Thanks, Daniel


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: Oly on March 30, 2011, 10:00:40 am
---BLEACH THE CRAP OUT OF EVERYTHING--- and I do mean EVERYTHING.

You need to mix a water and bleach formula of about 32 parts water to one part bleach (1/2 Cup bleach to 1 gallon water) and spray everything in the yard house car or any other place you can think of that the dog came in contact with, your shoes, rugs, bowls, furniture, dog yard, kennels EVERYTHING in and outside the house.

Top performance 256 will also work VERY WELL, but honestly you need to spray every square inch of EVERYTHING.
..

 Best place for a pup with Parvo is in the tub where you can contain it and then spray down with bleach with out much worries.

http://www.petedge.com/product/Top-Performance-256-Disinfectant-Deodorizer/46993.uts


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: TimmsHogDogs on March 30, 2011, 10:41:48 am
I hate to tell you this and hopefully it will be a future warning but never worm a pup that you think has parvo, yes I know that he had worms but as parvo attacks the intestines, worming them can actually cause them to die faster. That is what I was told by a vet.


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: Dhughes on March 30, 2011, 10:49:40 am
Thanks for the info. And I will spray everything down when I get off of work this evening.
Also should I give my pup thats doing ok but has been exposed to it any antibiotics or just hope she doesn't get it?
Thanks, Daniel


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: arrowbar on March 30, 2011, 11:17:09 am
Once the pup gets over the parvo they should have life long immunity to it.


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: joe smith on April 02, 2011, 09:19:51 am
your best bet with the pup that doesnt have parvo send him to a friends or family members house that way he wont contract parvo
spray everything with the bleach solution


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: Reuben on April 02, 2011, 01:35:12 pm
sounds to me that the first pup that died already had it when you got it and the other pup was already infected without the visual signs.


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: dub on April 02, 2011, 01:39:49 pm
your best bet with the pup that doesnt have parvo send him to a friends or family members house that way he wont contract parvo
spray everything with the bleach solution

NO!!!!!!! If he has been exposed to Parvo he will carry it over. You can also carry Parvo on your clothes. Wash everything you have and quarantine the puppy. Get some overalls and rubber boots Wear those around your dogs and keep the bleached. I killed every bit of grass in my yard and had to spread hay because of the mud. Parvo is very contagious and should be treated like a plague. It can be carried on clothes, shoes and anything else. Make sure the puppy has it's Parvo vaccine and watch it close. Get to the vet at the first sign of Parvo. Keep every dog where it is. They can have it and not show signs plus it can be on their hair. Wash your dogs often as well. After you have bleached everything and kept the dogs isolated for four week I think you are in the clear. The incubation period is 7-14 days.

I HATE PARVO!!!!!!


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: dub on April 02, 2011, 01:42:03 pm
Here is some good information.

http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=2+2102&aid=467


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: Dhughes on April 02, 2011, 05:39:30 pm
Thanks for the info. I got the pup from the vet yesterday after 3 days of IV's. He's doing good now just skinny. The cat pup is doing good too. I hope I don't have anymore trouble. I really appreciate everyones advice. I'll try to post some pics of them when I get home.
Thanks, Daniel


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: dub on April 02, 2011, 06:37:04 pm
That is great! My pup went down so fast it put the fear of Parvo in me bad. I am so glad your pup is doing good.


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: TinyTexasCowgirl on April 02, 2011, 07:38:35 pm
Sorry, I am a little late finding this, but I pulled Grace through Parvo, this time last year, she was around 6 months. Here is what we did.

For Hydration
Sub Q fluids, 100 cc's 3x day
Pediasure/baby food mixture force fed through a syringe at least every couple of hours, more if I thought about it.

For Meds
Tamaflu (don't remember the dosage, but I could find out if anyone wants to know) - The tamaflu is an anti viral, and helps boost the immune system.
Cerinia 1 cc every 24 hrs - The Cerinia is a drug from the vet that helps the pup to not puke.
Peptobismal or Kayopectate 1 cc morning and night - Pepto to keep them from having the runs.
Baytrial - Another Antibiotic

If you have any questions, feel free to PM me


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: TimmsHogDogs on April 02, 2011, 11:17:29 pm
Here is a website for anyone who is interested that is suppose to be really helpful with the Parvo situation.

wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com.heal_parvo.html


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: Catch an Tie 2 on April 03, 2011, 05:54:32 pm
Theres some stuff you can order off the internet called parvade works 100%


Title: Re: Help sick pup
Post by: Dhughes on April 03, 2011, 10:22:08 pm
Heres a couple pics of the pups. (http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x466/Danielhughes/69ab13aa.jpg)(http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x466/Danielhughes/e97236fc.jpg)