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What r yall's thoughts on breeds that would be good as "One Out" or running catch dogs!

dogos a re good RCDs

and for one outs my buddy has a akita x pit that has alot of one out hogs under him

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Maybe one of these? Since you're a big "one out" fan... do you recognize one of these dogs? ;)

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I dont think the dog on the right has what it takes. LOL. This is how I fell about "One Out" dogs. Unless you are a pro hunter and are trying to keep your over head down, or you just cant own more than one dog you should not be hunting "One Out". Hunting "One Out" dogs is very dangerus for the hunter. If the dog gets flipped the boar can turn on you. In BigL's case his father will only let him get one hog dog.

Just curious...as far as being more dangerous once a dog is on a hog's ear what's the difference between one-out hunting, and a lead-in catchdog?

Also, what defines a "pro-hunter"?

I know both the hairy one is my friend Greg Bloom's dog RIP and the red one is your dog Clifford!

L3outdoors I can only get one dog for now then when we move to land I can get more!  So it is temporary!

Its more dangerus because if the dog gets flipped then there is no other dogs to hold or distract the hog from you. I consider a pro hunter anyone that gets paid to hunt there dogs. Guides, hog removal, ext...
Feeding dogs cuts into profit. If you can feed less dogs and still get the same thing done then you make more profit. With feed close to $30 a bag your profit can turn into expences real quik. Every dog you own and take care of adds to your total expence at the end of the year.

Josh I saw a lacy x pitbull for sale, what r your thoughts!

I think you should just get something, or just wait till you can get two or three and hunt them together. LacyX is going to be on the small side for what I like in a "One Out" dog. I prefer 100lbs+ for "One Out" Thats just what works best for me. A LacyX would be fine if you plan on hunting it with other dogs in the future. There is a big difference between hunting a dog a few times a year "One Out" and hunting a dog for its life time "One Out". You want know until you try.

OK, just need a date in Feburary, I'm syched and r u hunting the tdha tournament?

Give me a call tomorrow after 10:00am I crew change in the morning if the weather will let the choppers fly.

Ok

lol im not one but i know lots of old men that have forgot more than you know and have never got paid just to go catch a pig every time lol

TT, I never said a paid hunter knows more. I was simply stating the reason for using the "One Out" style as a effective way to cut down on over head cost. I know alot of old hunters that know more than me.

I think the internet buzz about them is gay. 
I haven't even been hunting long and both of those terms seem to have come about recently.
Rcd is justs term made to church up a dog that is to rough to bay but will cur out on a rank hog. 

This is just my opinion. 

A RCD should not cur out on any hog. If he curs out he should not be classed as a RCD he should be called a gritty bay dog. I really dont fell confident with my dogs until I have seen them hold a 300lbs or bigger hog without fuss "One Out" JMO

TO EACH HIS OWN!

I dont care if you run one 150 pound dog at a time or twenty 15 pound dogs at a time......If you go to the woods and come out with hogs and alive dogs.........YOU IS HOG HUNTING................aint that what it's all about?????.........EVERYONE has there own opinions including myself........ways I'll go about it and ways I will never......As long as I'm catching hogs.......WHO CARES!!!!!


Logan (BigL),

HEy little Bro......You have called hundreds of folks over the last 8 months and asked "whacha think" about every breed and cross of dog known to mankind........JUST PICK one and get with it........You'll either get a good one or a dud....That's part of it.......If you are gonna be at the EXPO there will be many pups for sale there.....pick one you like and GET TO HUNTIN"! ;)

Right on Black Gold! As long as your catchin hogs you should be happy! ;D I know i hunt a few different styles of dogs and all of em catch hogs so im happy with em.



Michael Conatser

I have used her as a running catch but try to keep her on the bike till the hog stops running. But she will run with the curs.
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Bigl,

Its wise to make an informed decision before making any choice.  Talk with your old man, let him know what you learned, tell him which way your leaning toward and together make the choice.

Logan, also try and get out and hunt with others... see all the different styles of hunting.

Don't be stuck on one certain way until you experience the others.

If you're limited to having one dog, get you a goood strike dog and shoot over it... get comfortable with hog hunting before you rush in to getting catchdogs.

Mike, that's great advice in my opinion.  I've been hunting with other peoples dogs for years but recently started putting together my own pack and been have a great time doing it.  One cur, then another cur, now I got a catch dog to add to line up when he is ready.  The curs catch everything under about 100 pounds.  We shoot the ones they can't handle.  Regardless we are still hunting and get that major adrenaline rush in the woods.  Had I started out with just a CD we wouldn't have caught near as many pigs to date and in my mind that dog would probably be dead.

I have no problem with anyone's particular means or method, but what I do take issue with is someone who promotes their particular method as "most effiective" when they have no other experience.

Thats all I'm going to say about that.

It seems to me that a professional hunter would want dogs that would be able to hunt on a consistent basis and not be cut down all the time or dead for that matter.  The whole point of hunting for us is to do it safely for the dogs, hogs, and most importantly ourselves.  That way when I want to go hunting I have dogs to do it with.  "One Out" hunting would be certain death sentence for the dog if I hunted this "style".  I wouldnt recomend this wreckless style of hunting for anyone or dog for that matter.

Logan,
If you can only have one dog, I would get a cur and start trying to find some more friends with dogs until you can do otherwise. 

Joey

Do you still get the same adrenaline as sticking the pig with a knife?

please keep in mind that I'm a new hog dog hunter myself, only just starting to get dogs, but my OPINION is that yes, you do get an adrenaline rush from bay-n-shoot tactics.  that was what first got me into hunting hogs with dogs.  you still get the mystery of wondering what the dog is baying when you hear the bark, you still get to work your way into a bay and see the dog work, you may get to see your dog catch the smaller hogs (depending on the dog of course) and you still get the satisfaction of being in the woods and out hunting.  It just has a different type of ending.  I wonder how many of the experienced hunters that normally use catch dogs sometimes switch to a couple of curs and a rifle, maybe due to a catch dog being in heat, or injured of just for a change of pace? 

Yes but its a little different.  We started out shooting them with shotguns and rifles but now we have gone to pistols that require us to get much closer to make an effective shot. We got on a a pretty big rank boar on Christmas morning and having to sneak up within 15 yards of it without any dogs hanging off an ear is enough to make anyone pucker up a little.  After we shot it we had to just chill for a bit to catch out breath and get ourselves together.  Having said that, sending in a catch dog would have been freaking sweet. ;D  The point is the only reason we found this pig and had a good hunt was because to curs did what they do best and found it. 

I guess Id be out of luck, Ive been hunting a little while and caught a couple of hogs, but never the elusive 300 pounder   ::)

bigl find someone you can hunt with.(that will let you run a dog with there pack) then buy a strike dog that can help there dogs then when you can get more dogs you have a good start to your pack

Do you still get the same adrenaline as sticking the pig with a knife?
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Logan, I shoot over my curs and I can tell you that I get plenty of an adrenaline rush from that.  I can think of a time or two that I have been treed and shot the pig while hanging out of the tree.  It was a pretty big rush for me.

Good luck on finding a dog.

Logan,

Where about do you live?

I have a 1/2 Pit X 1/2 Lacy and I can tell you that cross is not likely to make a great "one out" dog. If I let her off lead, she hunts out with the best of our strike dogs but she does not bark. As a result I run her as a lead in catch dog but if a bay breaks before she gets there, she goes hunting and she has found several on her own that way. I have been lucky so far and every pig she has found on her own has been under 150lb. Could she handle a bigger hog by her self? Maybe, but I certainly don't want to take that chance. She has too much hunt and range for "one out" in my opinion. Especially when you consider her size. She will do it all day but having a 45lb dog hanging on a rank boar well outside of earshot is a recipe for disaster.

If I were limited to one dog only, I would find a good, gritty, agile cur dog with short to medium range and hit the woods with it and a .22 rifle.

JMHO

Steve

Monteria,
I live in west Tennessee!

I have just recently hunted with catch dogs before this it was gritty bay dogs so that being said would take a knive and a gun.  on smaller hogs the dogs would catch and I would knive on larger hogs I would just shoot.  I personally like the lacy dogs they are what I started hunting behind then they gat a lacy ridgeback cross and that opened up my eyes and started looking.  There are a lot of good breeds out there that are good dogs for what they do.  Just need to pick one to start with and go from there