EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

I just found out a guy down the road was fined for having a dog on a chain and we live in the county I thought they couldn't do that in the county or has some law passed saying they can thanks

I'm pretty sure they passed it state wide that they can only be chained for like 8 hours or something an they gotta be off be for 10 pm I think I'm bot for sure though but I think they can be on a runner like where they can go up an down a cable line but not on a chain , I read it awhile back somewhere can't remeber for sure

so they can be on a runner but not a chain? we are trying to put up some kennels now, so anyone know somebody with some for sale in texas please let us know... wish that non hunting people would just leave hunters of every type alone...........

 The chain must be at least 10 ft. long and you must be sure that there is plenty of shade. Easy access to water and nothing that can entangle the dog. Also a place for the dog to get out of bad weather.

I agree I wish the liberal tree huggers in this world would keep there nose out of other peoples buisness and leave us country boys and girls alone!!!

So if the meet the criteria they can be chained?

 the city of texarkana tried to pull a slick 1 and not advertise the bill and was gonna do a midnite vote on it, but folks got wind of it and the city had to revise the bill before it could be voted on. where could a person find that law at if there really is a law in affect? they dont want us to keep them chained, but yet if they get onto some1 elses property and mauls a cow or horse or kid, then we look like the bad guy who didnt have the dog chained. its a damnd if you do and damnd if you dont. the couty my wife is speaking of is williamson county on the outskirts of florence.

We can all thank the smart ones ( and I see it in pics all the time on here and several timese when I gone and picked up a dog) who have more dogs than they can afford in a trailer park who don't take care of their dogs and keep them on chains and don't pick up dog sh**!  This is the reason this law came out so thank these ppl don't blame anyone else!  These ppl like to be associated with hog doggin but don't ever do it and just try to earn an extra income off of pups...

u know i dnt think it matters what u live in a trailer house a shotgun shack or in $150,000 house if u love ur dogs and u feed worm and house ur dogs to the best of ur ability, aint no man or woman should have the right to down grade and brow beat another man for his choices of containing his DOGS. atleast he tried!!!

 what does picking up dog s**t and living in a trailer have to do with keeping a dog on a chain. it aint b/c they live in a trailer that laws like that are made, its other people thinking they know whats best for every1 and then forces their oppinion onto everybody. not every1 has the money to build a 5k, 10k or 15k to keep a dog/s and they live off the land and may live in a 1 rm house with 2 or 3 kids running around. atleast they know what it feels like to earn a living, if they didnt they would starve to death. i guess what is being said is, that if your poor you have no right to own a dog and should be told how to keep it as long as the richy rich get their way. i thought this was a country of the free. we have few freedoms anymore and are loosing what we do have to a bunch jackwads with money who would die off if the worlds economy come to an abrupt hault. it would be good riddens if they did die off.

Let me clarify for those who have miscounstrued what was being said and break this down for you so you can understand.  First off, I said I have picked up dogs numerous times not necessarily in a trailer park but at homes where the dog had been chained up, no water, no shelter, NOTHING but a chain and it took several months to earn the trust of these dogs and get their confidence up to where you could handle them without them thinking they were going to be beat them.  Not only were these dogs tied up but they were sitting in their own SH**...There isn't any reason for this...I didn't mention anything about anyones income or anything of the liking, only my experiences.  If you have a problem with someone voicing their opinion about how inhumane it is to chain a dog up with no food, water, or shelter, and sit in their own filth.  THEN Maybe someone should take you out and tie you up and put you in the same conditions and I bet you would a little different outlook on life.  YOUR RIGHT this is America and I served my country so I feel like I have the right to voice my opinion as well.  Have a good day.

What was the actual charge that the man was fined for? could have been many things, can't help if don't have all the information, thats very vague

As for the rest going back and fourth fussing ain't going to fix nothing, pointing fingers don't fix anything either.
Everybody wants to compain and not stand up for anything until a bill has been passed into a LAW, still it does not bother anybody until it affects YOU then you want to get upset and Say "NOBODY TOLD ME ABOUT IT".

THATS A DAMN SHAME, How many times have you signed onto this message Board? How Many Times have you told your story and read the "fun" stuff and looked at pictures?
BUT How many times did you read about the upcoming legislation? How many times did you contact your representative to voice your position on an upcoming bill?
Are you a registerd voter?

GET INVOLVED- JOIN LSWDA or other assoc. that watch and inform, and let you knopw when something might affect you, ALSO STAY AWARE of LAWS AND CITY  ISSUES IN YOUR COMMUNITY, ITS TEN TIMES HARDER TO REVERESE SOMETHING ONCE IT HAS GONE INTO EFFECT.

I try to obey Gods Laws & I love my family. This is a great country, BEST IN THE WORLD. With the amount of laws & the way the laws are being passed I cant keep up with whats legal or not. Its like your not free to practice freedom. I'm sure I brake several laws a day without even knowing! I've been legislated into an outlaw & didnt even know it (lol).

the county i live in, the chain has to be five times the length of the dog. what makes me mad is my 2 nabors leave there dogs running loose all the time and animal control hasnt said any thing. but u can bet one of mine gets loose and it will cost me. all my dogs are on chains and the square ft adds up to 150 square foot round circle . animal control told me as long as the dogs have clean water and good shade and they look good were not going to bother any one.

uglydog your 100% right how can u voice an opinion on something u did`nt care enough about to support, and stand behind! But why would u purchase a dog from enviroment such as those conditions and then talk so much smack about it? i would never supported a low life like that in the first place! If the dogs were in such poor conditions why was`nt something done for them? INSTEAD of bashing them on the WWW.? all im sayen is atleast some ppl care enough for there dogs that they contain them by the best way they can, it may not be up to everyones likens but atleast there dogs were not terrorizing everyone else.

Damn you sure are upset...Someone give this guy a hug!  Are you sure I didn't buy the dog from you?  You sure are defensive...Drink a cold one man and relax...Good day...

Don't get on here and post about how it's okay to keep dogs in horrible conditions and try to say it's okay!  Your barking up the wrong tree partner!

 uglydog, im not sure what the charges were, i will have my wife find out and get back with you on it. i dont have anything to worry bout since my dogs each have 15ft+ of chain if that law states the x amount of square ftage im sure im good. just havent heard of the state passing a law such as this, but have heard of it in the cities.

Whats the difference in keeping a dog in a 5X10 kennel vs. having a dog on an 8' chain.  8' of chaing gives the dog 16' of an area from one end to another.  I am pretty sure there are dogs living in kennels that are in the same crappy conditions as dogs on chains.  They should look at the over all condition of the dog, not how it is contained.

Dogs are mens best friend and do great jobs of helping us in any type of work we may need them to. The least we can do is give them THE BEST POSSIBLE DOG LIFE, and be fair with them.

That's all I was trying to say i don't care if the dog is chained, zip lined, or kenneled, makes no difference just that they are taken care of.  I have chained dogs myself but they move from chain to kennel to zipline all the time.  Didn't intend on offending anyone.   Let me buy whoevers upset a virtual beer!

im going to need lots of kennels lol              love your dogs and they will love you back

i keep all my dogs on 12 ft chains . only because i beleive thats the best way to keep them . more room , more exercise , more freedom = happier dogs .

   not to mention they will go to the end of the chain , take a dump and then kick it away from them . i could spend thousands on kennells but my dogs wouldnt be a damn bit better off .

   PEOPLE THAT DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT USING DOGS DONT HAVE ANY BUSINEES FORCING THEIR OPINIONS ON IGNORANT LAWMAKERS .

   if they come to my house , they can mind their manners , or get escorted to the mailbox .

   my people were making a living with animals since the early 1700's in this country ,  they whipped the savages , the british , the germans and japs and made this place even possible for these idiots to develop their stupid thoughts .


                                                              THEY HAD BETTER LEAVE ME ALONE !

A conservative don't like something,,, they don't do it
A liberal don't like something,,,,, they go on a dam crusade and pass laws to keep ANYONE from doing it.

i know what RaftersixRanch is trying to say, i have dogs that are on chains and kennels and even one running loose and i take very good care of my dogs, im not rich but they are taken care of, but i know where there are several dogs at the people are to sorry to go out there and give their dog a house to get out of the rain or get in the shade and probably have no water right now, and wheres some in kennels having to slide around for all the dog mess not even a clean place to put their feet at, im not a animal rights person but i think if someone owns a animal it should be took good care of or it should be took from them and them not allowed to have anymore, when a dog dies from having no water thats as low as it gets

I have 3 bulldogs that if you put them in Kennels they get depressed and lose weight. they are much happier on chains. my county told me the other day that if i want 2 keep them on chains they could not be anchored they need 2 b on cable runs. my problem with that is they will not have as much room 2 run ,

always someone trien to tell you to fix something that aint broke!!! we have a county animale control officer that is pretty cool so we have it made around here. but that does`nt mean we slack on taken care of our dogs, if u want the best out of ur dogs u need to do the best by ur dogs, words of wisdom from my grand dad!

Here is the state law, counties may have their own law for the county. What county did this happen in?

Sec. 821.077.  UNLAWFUL RESTRAINT OF DOG.

  (a)  An owner may not leave a dog outside and unattended by use of a restraint that unreasonably limits the dog's movement:
(1)  between the hours of 10 p.m. and 6 a.m.;
(2)  within 500 feet of the premises of a school; or
(3)  in the case of extreme weather conditions, including conditions in which:
   (A)  the actual or effective outdoor temperature is below 32 degrees Fahrenheit;
   (B)  a heat advisory has been issued by a local or state authority or jurisdiction; or
   (C)  a hurricane, tropical storm, or tornado warning has been issued for the jurisdiction by the National Weather Service.
       (b)  In this section, a restraint unreasonably limits a dog's movement if the restraint:
          (1)  uses a collar that is pinch-type, prong-type, or choke-type or that is not properly fitted to the dog;
          (2)  is a length shorter than the greater of:
             (A)  five times the length of the dog, as measured from the tip of the dog's nose to the base of the dog's tail; or
             (B)  10 feet;
             (3)  is in an unsafe condition; or
             (4)  causes injury to the dog.

I live in limestone county  my dogs have 25ft of chain all dogs have shade all the time. im getting cables in the am 2 fix the problem

i live in the city.. and got a warning for my chains.. had to build pens.. but i still got one on a chain in his pen.. a pen is not keppin him in. so he has both.. but yes its nation wide...\and dogs can only be on the chain for 3 hours aday. from what i was told.. no matter how long.. and cables are considered chains also... sam as zip lines. it sucked being told what to do in a free counrty.. ha

 the incident happened in williamson county, out the city of florence tx, 20 miles north of georgetown tx. it is a good feeling, knowing that 1000's of service men and weman died for the rights and freedom of past, present and future generations to ruled by stupid people who know only the inside of a cubicle and have limited knowledge of the goings on in the worl other than by the news media. its time for the men and weman to take a stand and utilize our constitutional right to have an uprising when a government gets to powerful.

There is no state law saying that dogs can't be on chains. They just need to be 10' long and you need to have the rest of their needs tended to.

Not sure why everybody is making this post a political one. Let's all agree on one thing, if dogs had not been created, we human would be in a whole lot of trouble. Agree? So lets respect our dogs and give them a life they can enjoy as to say thank you for all the hard work they do.

not to start anything but if theres no state law.. then why does it have to be 10 foot chains.. makes no since..... and i love my dogs.. and im not sure about a state law but its a city law... city wrote me up.. and had 12 days to get them off chains..

He means the law doesn't state you can't have them on chains, instead it regulates that the chain be 10 feet long.  Hope that helps.

Its times like this im down to just one dog. She's inside the feed bill is low and i don't have to worry about kennels or animal control lol now a couple months ago i would have been pissed but that why im a member of both lswd and tdha. to stay informed and incase i miss something they pick up the slak!