EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

i have only hunted behind one dogo gyp! this dog did not impress me at all, she ran into a bay hit a hog made it squeel and came right back to her owner!!!

With that being said i have the chance to own a dogo gyp through a guy who`s sister breeds them!

i am a die hard APBT fan and find it hard to beat a good well bred pit. so what im asking would it be worth a shot to cross the gyp with one of my proven catch dogs and try the cross as long as the dogo gyp proves herself. for more lung on breaking bays would be the ultimate reason and for overall size.

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Man don't get me wrong but I think u would have a cd and a good one at that my dogo/ab is a flat terror on a hog now if she was just a little older to really test her lol

A good bred APBT is all that is needed. I say don't cross them, too many people are crossing them up and calling them full blood. I am a die hard pitbull man and don't think they need anything crossed into them to make them "better".

I have a "full blooded" Dogo / Pit Cross. :D I havent tested him on catching like I need to but physically, other than being just a tad on the big side, he is exactly what I was hoping for. This particular cross has worked out to be what Im looking for in a catch dog with other litters and that is why I am trying it.
 
I think its worth a try to get what you want if the gyp proves herself to be what you want in a catchdog.

Keep us updated on the cross if you make it. I sure would like to hear how it works out.

The "pogo" I had was a cull, but like anything I am sure there are good and bad......I love a good dogo, my gyp is defiantly a pleasure to hunt and can do it all up to anyone's standards with better than avg holding, heat tollerence/endurance, runners etc BUT there are alot more dogo culls than pit culls in my opinion......who knows I like my ab alot as well

If its a good dogo gyp and she comes from good ones your cross will probably work

I'm 100%  die hard dogo man. That being said the dogo is more then just dog jmo. The only reason to cross a dogo would be to cut down on the health issues that Dogos are known for due the pigmentation or lack of. Dogos cull just like APBT do. It's just a more expensive cull. IMO you have to get a dogo from working parents and owners. The APBT has more energy/stamina then the Dogo and takes longer to get turned on to hogs then the APBT.  My2

tmatt im with u man on a well bred APBT, my little blue dog is all the dog i need, and my white headed dog cam is as nice as most catch dogs just a thought that maybe to my likens as well as others!

Dogojones other then them being imported why is a dogo so damn exspensive!!!i have seen pits with the lung and heat tolerance that u speak of so it has to be in the breeding right?

ninja if i get the gyp i will post and let yall c her and will keep yall posted!

I breed one of the best catch dog that I had
to a buddy of mine that has a jam up Dogo
just to see what I can get out of them two. I
havent put the pup on anything yet but hoping
To get his dad and mom traits . I always ran a
Pit , but this will be my first cross. good looking
Pits if I may say!!!! I like the blue one!!!

BIG CHRIS- do you know what blood lines they are out of? Seems to me from all the discussion that there are few legit hunting dogo breeders in the US.

To put it in basic terms a good dogo should be like a cur dog that is strait catch. Dont see many people breeding this though. If it is good blood, good build, and she proves herself, I think you would like the cross. Only thing I dont like about a bigger dog, and you may not like it either, is that if you dont work with them on leading, they will drag your butt around and you better not fall down... but I aint much for leadin in a cd.

Dogojones, I don't think that a dogo can be much more, if any more expensive than the pitbull dogs that I raise. I can show you some pitbull dogs that will put a dogo to shame in the stamina and heat tolerance departments. APBT all the.way, to hell with the cross!

Sometimes folks just dont have access to the kind of dogs they are looking for. Thats why some folks breed and cross to get what they want.
I know they are out there but, I have never seen or owned an APBT that I could fully trust unlead, on the ground when I or others were hunting horseback. For me, finding a good cd with the kind of temperament, leg, lung, and handle I wanted wasnt nowhere to be found. Thats why I am trying this cross.

Big Chris, Id take tmatt up on his offer, but just in case you cant afford one of his dogo priced pups, you may want to still make that cross.     

x 2  ;)

On the other hand, I've never hunted with a good pure Dogo (the one's I've hunted with and seen failed to make the grade or were just plain awfull), but I have seen 1 or two good Dogo crosses... JMO

Tmatt, I'm not doubting the fact that you can show me pits that can perform in the heat. When I say the dogo is much more I'm speaking of overall temperment the ablity to turn off the switch and to be able to hunt in silence with the pack. The ablity to come into The house and be socialable with family, and friends. The Dogo is a laid back dog which doesn't bark often and hardliy runs to the door when  it rings. I say this b/c it all depends on what you're looking for out of your dog.  I will give up not hunting in the heat to have something that the family feels safe around. I'm not bashing Pitts or any other breed.

Big Chris, There are some guys in the states that breed and hunt the dogo and they do a good job at it. As far as the price well there some people that are just willing to pay big money for a all white exotic dog.
The bad thing is that they will breed them not having clue on what there doing and more people will buy.
 

These subjects come up every couple of months on this forum and I really dont care enough to add-lib mostly but this irritates me. I promise you cant show me a pit any better if as good with stamina etc as the working dogos. In general dogos are better in that department, dont get me wrong I have owned some bad a$$ pit with all kinds of athletic ability (all you need to catch a hog) and a culled my share of Dogos but the majority of statements about people "never hunting with a good dogo" just have not tried very hard. Thats like me saying half the pits I've culled just didnt make it as a catch dog b/c they were dog agressive or had no endurance.......That means I simply didnt try very hard to find a good one

Once upon a time when we had those hard core APBT breeders, those men who bred for the ultimate dog with grit and stamina that no other breed of dog could equal. The APBT was the breed of choice for whatever reason and these dogs had to pass the ultimate test to become the breeders of tomorrow.JMO

We still have breeders who breed performance APBT's but the testing is done in other ways.

There are lots of different types of pit bulls out there... from the bully breeds to the leggy agile type that can run as fast as any cur dog out there.

I remember when the red red nosed pit was a high dollar dog and everyone and their brother was breeding them for the big money. I also remember when the same happened with the blue blue nosed pit. Everyone and their sister was breeding these for the big money.

Anytime a breed gets too popular the breed suffers because too many people get in the breeding game that don't know anything about breeding better dogs much less selecting quality dogs to continue breeding better dogs. As soon as the fad is over and the market is saturated and the price falls off they abandon ship. The true breeders who care about the breed are in it for the long haul...

With every generation and the back yard breeders breeding these dogs without regard to or for working ability, the dogs are slowly losing some of their gameness. Again JMO...

I can see where the right dogo crossed with the right pit would produce a high quality catch dog but I wouldn't bet on all the puppies making high quality catch dogs.

BOARNINJA- I dont breed for the money, therefore do not have many litters, BUT the APBT dogs that I have WILL raise pups that are ones you can trust unleashed running loose as well as in a box with other dogs.  There a a few guys on here that have hunted with these dogs and own them for reference sake.

Think about how many of these dogs got culled...I have heard of people culling five hundred plus in their career. Also, those dogs stamina came more from a conditioning program than just strictly breeding, any dog can be conditioned to reach its potential, some dogs just have more potential than others. Another problem is, with any breed, that not everyone makes them pass the test before they are bred. Or, for pit bulls, another problem is people breeding a dog that had a hard jaw and was a quick finisher, but not necessarily a game dog.

We have a dogo pit cross he can run all day and hits hard and doesnt let go. Breed her with the first  pit and call me when the pups are ready !! ;D