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Title: Zimectrin Gold Question
Post by: Heaven Sent Kennel on June 27, 2011, 12:52:46 am
It's time to worm all the dogs again for next month and noticed a couple getting a lil thin so I figured I'd try some zimectrin Gold paste instead of ivemec in case they do have a case of the tapes. My question is how many clicks to use. The tube is just labeled in pounds and the closest is 250 lbs up to 1250. I'm thinkin' just a dime size drop or maybe a lil less. I figured that should get everthing ivemec does and then some. any help is appreciated.


Title: Re: Zimectrin Gold Question
Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on June 27, 2011, 05:58:01 am
The clicker does not work at all on those tubes. It is poorly made. As far as dossage, if you are worming 10-15 pound pups, a pencil eraser sized ball will do the trick.


Title: Re: Zimectrin Gold Question
Post by: Bryant on June 27, 2011, 07:41:48 am
Due to the ratio of Ivomec to Praziquantel in Zimectrin, it is impossible to properly dose a dog using this product.

I just did the math on the Zimectrin Gold (1.55% Ivomec, 7.75% Praziquantel) Based on the canine dosage rate of each (Ivomec - .002250 mg/lb and Praziquantel - 2.5mg/lb).  The tube is advertised to treat one 1,250 lb horse based on the horse admin. rate of (Ivomec - 91mcg/lb and Praziquantel - 454 mcg/lb).  Given this info, we can calculate that the entire tube contains 113.75 mg of Ivomec and 567.50 mg of Praziquantel.  The ratio being 4.989

Using a 60lb dog for an example, to treat tapes the dog would need 150 mg of praziquantel (60lbs X 2.5mg).  Divide that by our ratio (4.989) and to administer that amount of Praziquantel to the dog would be giving the dog 30.066 mg (or cc's) of Ivomec.  A 60lb dog needs .135 cc of Ivomec.  (60lbs X .002250 mg/lb).

Based on these calculations to treat them properly for the tapes, you would probably kill them on the Ivomec.



Title: Re: Zimectrin Gold Question
Post by: Black Smith on June 27, 2011, 11:40:40 am
I know paste wormer must not work i have a dog thats been getting one click of it every 30 days for eleven years i hope it quits working soon.


Title: Re: Zimectrin Gold Question
Post by: 5150hogdogs on June 27, 2011, 02:16:08 pm
I use about a 1/4 inch on the finger and never had problems


Title: Re: Zimectrin Gold Question
Post by: Greg W on June 27, 2011, 02:57:36 pm
I use a M&M size glob on my finger. I can worm 13 dogs with one tube


Title: Re: Zimectrin Gold Question
Post by: GOODEN on June 27, 2011, 03:08:07 pm
I use about a 1/4 inch on the finger and never had problems

The same works for me and I never have any trouble.


Title: Re: Zimectrin Gold Question
Post by: Heaven Sent Kennel on June 27, 2011, 05:22:03 pm
at what age is it ok to start giving ivemec and zimectrin? I have 1 that is 6 months and 2 that are almost 4 months old.


Title: Re: Zimectrin Gold Question
Post by: Reuben on June 27, 2011, 05:50:16 pm
at what age is it ok to start giving ivemec and zimectrin? I have 1 that is 6 months and 2 that are almost 4 months old.

you can start at 4 to 5 months... Ivomec has 1% ivermectin and Zimecterin has 1.87% ivermectin. Mainly used for heartworm prevention but can be used for ear mites.
If a 50 lb. dog needs a 1/2 a cc of ivomec then it just makes sense that slightly over a 1/4 cc would be enough when using Zimecterin. A little extra will be ok but not much more.

There are other wormers out there for intestinal worms that are way better than Zimecterin.


Title: Re: Zimectrin Gold Question
Post by: 5150hogdogs on June 27, 2011, 05:52:40 pm
I start the zinectrin at two weeks old squeeze the paste to top the tube then dap the tip of your finger too much will kill so be careful


Title: Re: Zimectrin Gold Question
Post by: M Bennet on June 27, 2011, 06:18:08 pm
I know paste wormer must not work i have a dog thats been getting one click of it every 30 days for eleven years i hope it quits working soon.
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Title: Re: Zimectrin Gold Question
Post by: noelle on June 29, 2011, 12:00:53 pm
I worm 6 dogs with 1 toob zimmecterin gold, enough for 200# horse each, including bred gyps, never had any problem and always come out with fat healthy pups. I wait till about 2-3mths to start the pups on zimmecterin or ivomec(which I rotate all the dogs with every 6 wks)