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Title: Catch dog question Post by: wranglercurs on July 06, 2011, 05:19:35 pm Can this be done? How would you do it?
I just got a bulldog. He has never seen a hog. The dog is two years old. Can he be trained as a catch dog? How would I go about getting him started? Thanks alot for any input. Title: Re: Catch dog question Post by: wranglercurs on July 06, 2011, 05:23:00 pm I tied him on the outside of my hog pen and let a younger dog bay. He didnt want any part of this. I put him on the inside with the bay dog. He ran to the corner of the pen and layed down. He shows no sign of wanting to work. Should I go ahead an get something else? Thanks
Title: Re: Catch dog question Post by: djhogdogger on July 06, 2011, 05:25:10 pm He might turn on if you put him where the hog could go after him. Sometimes their defense is what gets them going.
Title: Re: Catch dog question Post by: Reuben on July 06, 2011, 06:06:45 pm He might turn on if you put him where the hog could go after him. Sometimes their defense is what gets them going. x2...tight quarters with just him and a hog. Title: Re: Catch dog question Post by: skunkhounds on July 06, 2011, 06:07:53 pm try putting him in the pen with another dog that catches to make the pig squeil if that dont work put him in a pen with a lil bigger pig that will run after him if that dont work find another one
Title: Re: Catch dog question Post by: wranglercurs on July 06, 2011, 06:11:47 pm Thanks for the reply's. Ill try a couple more times an if he dont turn on ill get rid of him. Im just hard up for a dang catch dog an dont have the money to buy one right now. Thanks again
Title: Re: Catch dog question Post by: noelle on July 06, 2011, 06:48:16 pm He ain't too old, let one rough him up a bit and get him fired up he ought to catch but if not better replace him probably. I'm still looking for one out in that area no luck yet tho
Title: Re: Catch dog question Post by: mattr on July 06, 2011, 07:16:50 pm Quote from: djhogdogger on Today at 05:25:10 pm
He might turn on if you put him where the hog could go after him. Sometimes their defense is what gets them going. x2...tight quarters with just him and a hog. X3 if hes gonna work thats when he'll figure it out Title: Re: Catch dog question Post by: Purebreedcolt on July 06, 2011, 07:25:38 pm This is just me but I want a cd to have drive. Again this is just me but in my eyes I look at a cd the same way I look at a bay/find dog they eather have it or they don't. I do not force a cd there are too many for free or cheap cheap on craigslist. I know you can make a cd by putting them with a rank pig and making them catch but that is not the cd for me I want the drive the same as a bay dog.
Title: Re: Catch dog question Post by: ETHHunters on July 06, 2011, 07:45:48 pm Are you sure you don't have a Dogo? If turns out to be one don't worry they take two or three years to turn on!
Title: Re: Catch dog question Post by: Reuben on July 06, 2011, 07:55:45 pm This is just me but I want a cd to have drive. Again this is just me but in my eyes I look at a cd the same way I look at a bay/find dog they eather have it or they don't. I do not force a cd there are too many for free or cheap cheap on craigslist. I know you can make a cd by putting them with a rank pig and making them catch but that is not the cd for me I want the drive the same as a bay dog. Purebreedcolt, I totally agree...I like natural ability in a hog dog. Title: Re: Catch dog question Post by: No Commitment Kennels on July 06, 2011, 08:05:15 pm I would get him used to the other dogs, then lead him in on a bay when your out hunting. Make sure your other catchdogs are there because he might not do anything and then you could be in a pickle.
Title: Re: Catch dog question Post by: sdillard on July 06, 2011, 08:15:43 pm try putting him in the pen with another dog that catches to make the pig squeil if that dont work put him in a pen with a lil bigger pig that will run after him if that dont work find another one X2 Title: Re: Catch dog question Post by: Black Smith on July 06, 2011, 08:46:05 pm i agree puy him in a pen with another catch dog if its in him it will come out. it is diffently not to old.
Title: Re: Catch dog question Post by: southtexasff on July 06, 2011, 09:31:30 pm I agree if he has it he has it. I think if you force him to catch sooner or later he is gonna quit on you.
Title: Re: Catch dog question Post by: SCHitemHard on July 06, 2011, 10:59:15 pm i got my bulldog round 2 years old, he got his tail bit and his arse torn up and he hated pigs after that, took him alittle while cause he didnt know what to do
just get a rank hog and let it after him just vest him up just incase ;) Title: Re: Catch dog question Post by: Heaven Sent Kennel on July 06, 2011, 11:18:07 pm had one that was almost 2 years old. sent him into the bay on about a hundred pounder and it was kinda funny to see a 90 lb bulldog bay a hog until he got thrown around a lil bit. he learned to catch pretty quick after that lil deal. need one to ruff em up that won't tear them up or move on.
Title: Re: Catch dog question Post by: tmatt on July 07, 2011, 04:28:19 pm How long have you had the dog? Let the dog get used to you and your dogs. Don't let him get roughed up by a pig, he may not ever turn on if you let him get hurt/roughed up right now. Does he show.any interest in anything else? What does he do when the pig squeals? Sometimes a dog is timid and needs a lot of reinforcement from their handler letting them know that getting the pig is what you want and once their confidence is up.their natural drive will show. I have owned alot of bulldog and have seen some that did not "turn on" til they were three or so. Patience is the key to getting this dog to work for you in this situation. There will be a lot of people on this board that will tell you to just cull him and be done but if you have the time to wait give him a chance. There are a lot of different things that could cause him to be nervous and not want to get in there and catch. How many times has the dog changed hands? How was he treated where he came from? Was he just a "pet" at the place where he came from? Etc. Some dogs never turn on and some just take a little patience. You are starting with a two year old that you didn't raise so it may take a little while.
Title: Re: Catch dog question Post by: Reuben on July 07, 2011, 05:41:26 pm How long have you had the dog? Let the dog get used to you and your dogs. Don't let him get roughed up by a pig, he may not ever turn on if you let him get hurt/roughed up right now. Does he show.any interest in anything else? What does he do when the pig squeals? Sometimes a dog is timid and needs a lot of reinforcement from their handler letting them know that getting the pig is what you want and once their confidence is up.their natural drive will show. I have owned alot of bulldog and have seen some that did not "turn on" til they were three or so. Patience is the key to getting this dog to work for you in this situation. There will be a lot of people on this board that will tell you to just cull him and be done but if you have the time to wait give him a chance. There are a lot of different things that could cause him to be nervous and not want to get in there and catch. How many times has the dog changed hands? How was he treated where he came from? Was he just a "pet" at the place where he came from? Etc. Some dogs never turn on and some just take a little patience. You are starting with a two year old that you didn't raise so it may take a little while. I agree with what tmatt is saying...that is the first choice. But when you are about to cull then do what's written below. Quote from: djhogdogger on Yesterday at 05:25:10 pm He might turn on if you put him where the hog could go after him. Sometimes their defense is what gets them going. x2...tight quarters with just him and a hog. Title: Re: Catch dog question Post by: jdt on July 07, 2011, 06:03:42 pm " natural drive " and "confidence " are the same in my book . if the dog is 2 and dont catch when the hog hits him , he dont eat at my house anymore .
Title: Re: Catch dog question Post by: tmatt on July 07, 2011, 10:56:57 pm Jdt, I don't understand how natural drive and confidence are the same thing. They go hand in hand but are not the same thing. I am sure glad you are not one of the oldtime bulldog men. Some of the foundation stock that started some of the best pitbull bloodlines didn't turn on til well after two. The oldtimers didn't do anything with their dogs til they were at least 18 months old and usually they waited til they were two.
Title: Re: Catch dog question Post by: noelle on July 08, 2011, 10:55:12 am How long have you had the dog? Let the dog get used to you and your dogs. Don't let him get roughed up by a pig, he may not ever turn on if you let him get hurt/roughed up right now. Does he show.any interest in anything else? What does he do when the pig squeals? Sometimes a dog is timid and needs a lot of reinforcement from their handler letting them know that getting the pig is what you want and once their confidence is up.their natural drive will show. I have owned alot of bulldog and have seen some that did not "turn on" til they were three or so. Patience is the key to getting this dog to work for you in this situation. There will be a lot of people on this board that will tell you to just cull him and be done but if you have the time to wait give him a chance. There are a lot of different things that could cause him to be nervous and not want to get in there and catch. How many times has the dog changed hands? How was he treated where he came from? Was he just a "pet" at the place where he came from? Etc. Some dogs never turn on and some just take a little patience. You are starting with a two year old that you didn't raise so it may take a little while. Yes all these factors are true to some extent but it's not a 10mth old puppy, it's a grown dog, if he won't show any interest after Bein roughed up a bit by a hog a few times then he probably is gonna require more patience and time than it's worth and need to just get another one. All dogs can't b expected to have prey drive and attack everything u put it on... I personally wouldn't own a dog that mite catch anything it's around at 2yrs old that Is dangerous, and harder to break from catching anything to catching just hogs. He's not too old but needs to be shown his job and get run over a few times by a hog that ain't gonna hurt him and if he is still scared and don't show interest then Mayb try another dog and get rid of him... Don't give up too soon but don't waste too much time.. Bulldogs have that prey drive some just don't show the aggression as easily as others. Title: Re: Catch dog question Post by: wranglercurs on July 08, 2011, 11:07:31 am I havent had the dog long at all. But I dont think that he's going to work out. I just picked up another younger dog yesterday. I am goin to give him a week are so just gettin used to me and the place then Ill try him on a pig. This new pup was sick yea when I got him home yesterday so I loaded him up this mornin an took him to town. When I got back home he didnt as bad as yesterday but still alittle sickly.lol Ill work on this while Im givin him time to get used to me and the farm.
I thank ya'll for the reply's Title: Re: Catch dog question Post by: noelle on July 08, 2011, 11:32:36 am Good luck, found u a cd but it was very dog aggressive so I did not get him.
Title: Re: Catch dog question Post by: tmatt on July 08, 2011, 11:42:51 am Where are you located? Catch dogs are my specialty. Lol
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