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Title: run and catch dog question
Post by: Logan-99 on July 07, 2011, 09:04:33 pm
i got a full blood dogo recently 2 years old will head straight to a bay then bay one or two times then catch HARD can anyone tell me why he bays a bark or two. is he sizing up the pig? scared?


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: wranglercurs on July 07, 2011, 09:56:07 pm
I know a guy that has a lead in catch dog he is cur cross but Thats the same way he does and my buddy says the dog is sizing the hog up. So Id say yea that may be what yours is doing also. I wouldnt say scared. I dont think anyway.


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: SCHitemHard on July 07, 2011, 10:41:33 pm
as long as hes catchin i dont see what would be wrong with him, i would be concerned if he just bayed


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: Mike on July 08, 2011, 07:18:02 am
Catch dogs don't bark... I'd be careful if I were you. ;)


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: UNDERDOG on July 08, 2011, 08:28:08 am
i got a full blood dogo

He IS a dogo....just kidding..

Catch dogs don't bark... I'd be careful if I were you. ;)

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Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: blakebh on July 08, 2011, 10:49:44 am
Catch dogs don't bark... I'd be careful if I were you. ;)
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Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: halfbreed on July 08, 2011, 11:05:37 am
some boys came to pick up ol willie boy from my pen i waxahachie after i moved my old listed boar made their seasond dogo catch dog sit down and bay in my oppinion dogo;s aint no diff than ruff catahoulas when bred to pitts make ok catch dogs just like cat.s  but pure bred they is just argentina cur dogs :P :P


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: Logan-99 on July 08, 2011, 11:21:13 am
hes a run and catch because hes built long legged and block head i just like them because where im from you HAVE to have a dog to stop a runner







Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: Silverton Boar Dogs on July 08, 2011, 11:41:45 am
Some Dogos are very vocal. I have hunted with several that vocalise ( bark, growl, or squeal) in the last two or three strides before they hit up. My Adora female has a rough growly woof right before she catches some times. It doesn't mean they are stopping and barking necessarily just making some noise on the way in. Baying is another matter and not acceptable under any circumstances. I have only seen/ heard this in the Dogo. 


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: S_J_KENNELS on July 08, 2011, 11:43:41 am
some boys came to pick up ol willie boy from my pen i waxahachie after i moved my old listed boar made their seasond dogo catch dog sit down and bay in my oppinion dogo;s aint no diff than ruff catahoulas when bred to pitts make ok catch dogs just like cat.s  but pure bred they is just argentina cur dogs :P :P

That DOGO was a cull. Pure and simple. A well bred DOGO had better not do that just like a well bred AB or PIT had better not. They do not need to be crossed with a pit or AB to make them better, but to each their own.


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: Logan-99 on July 08, 2011, 11:44:24 am
im pretty sure when he runs in there and barks is because he doesnt want to run into the bay head first and hit the previous owner said he had been cut on the head before he could be just cauitous


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: Logan-99 on July 08, 2011, 11:45:32 am
the dogo is a just like a pit in foreign countrys


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: halfbreed on July 08, 2011, 12:00:21 pm
no s& j i was sayin you put dogo into the pit or ab to give em a little somthin extra wind leg ect.


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: Purebreedcolt on July 08, 2011, 12:01:05 pm
I agree my ridgeback does the same he makes a noise befor he catches not a bark but a noise kinda like what silverton said his dogo does.  So long as they catch and hold no matter what thay are a cd to me


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: bddhoggdogin on July 08, 2011, 12:01:53 pm
I would becareful with it baying a few barks that's like saying my ab would be ok if he barked a few times before he caught bull crap lol he better get mad and hit it with ever thing he has instantly one day ur gonna end up with a dead dogo or even worse him letting go before ur ready and that would sux jmo becareful


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: OutlawHogDoggers69 on July 08, 2011, 12:23:21 pm
The dogo is prolly barkin before he catches cuz he has prolly been cut by a bigger pig or been hit really hard by one cuz he prolly ran and hit it hard and the pig cut him... Yall dont be hatin on his dog just cuz it is bein cautious about something that has happened in the past.!! As long as it still catches hard i wouldnt care if it bayed first... If he hits it hard again hr may be cut again bad and never try to catch again.!


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: Miller Lite on July 08, 2011, 01:10:06 pm
i'll settle for that 40lbs bulldog anyday ... but on the other hand you could use the dogo to chase women haha jus sayin ( i would )


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: Logan-99 on July 08, 2011, 01:28:18 pm
it is what it is sorry for heating everyone up


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: Mike on July 08, 2011, 01:34:15 pm
How old are you?

Don't come on here asking opinions about your dog, then get bent out of shape because you don't like the answers.

A catch dog should catch... period. Not stop and bay the hog for a minute, then catch. You're gonna meet the right hog one day and get someone hurt or all your other dogs killed when your "catch dog" quits.


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: Logan-99 on July 08, 2011, 01:39:58 pm
thanks for the advice didnt mean to stir anyone up


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: UNDERDOG on July 08, 2011, 01:48:51 pm
Is this you outlaw...?

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(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z473/loganlee2/Mobile%20Uploads/P120211_1420_01.jpg)


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: S_J_KENNELS on July 08, 2011, 04:29:56 pm
no s& j i was sayin you put dogo into the pit or ab to give em a little somthin extra wind leg ect.

OK putting it that way. I can agree with ya ;) LOL

A squeal or whine while caught, or even an excited bark as they are closing their mouth to catch I can deal with, and have no problem with a dog doing. Heck I like it as most times with my old pack that is the ONLY way I could find the catch. If the hog was not grunting or a good fight was going. BUT for a catchdog to stop and BAY before catching is a different story. I could even deal with and have seen catchdogs of various breeds come running in full steam an pause for a couple of seconds. Just long enough to change directions or angle and hit the hog full steam again. To me that is a dog that has the game figured out and knows how to catch without getting hit. BUT baying an then catching is not wanted. He may catch and catch hard, but I could not trust him as my main catchdog. A back up or running catch/rough strike dog maybe, but not a pure catchdog.


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: tmatt on July 08, 2011, 05:17:08 pm
Just me, but I wouldn't run a "catch dog" or a "running catch dog" that bays even once. I guess that most folks use "running catch dogs" by your definition, because most folks bay dogs will help out when the catch dog catches. I wouldn't trust a "catch dog" that based.


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: tmatt on July 08, 2011, 05:23:23 pm
Hey Halfbreed, if you get the right line of APBT there is no reason to cross anything into them for wind, leg, or anything else. I have a couple of dogs that is you seen them work you would swear they could breathe underwater, lol and they are 100% pure bulldog.


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: Logan-99 on July 08, 2011, 05:52:23 pm
as long as hes catchin i dont see what would be wrong with him, i would be concerned if he just bayed
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Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: Logan-99 on July 08, 2011, 05:54:25 pm
jmo


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: tmatt on July 08, 2011, 06:21:17 pm
Outlaw, you must have some sort of problem with him or you wouldn't have posted on here with a question about him. I think you are defensive now that you didn't like what others were saying. If you don't have a problem or question about the dog or don't want to hear what others have to say, don't post the question!


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: warrent423 on July 08, 2011, 07:26:30 pm
As long as the dog attempts to catch and hold when there is "work" to be done, hunt 'em up. Don't let all these "no bark" catchdog types get to ya. There are all kinds of catchdogs ;)


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: halfbreed on July 09, 2011, 11:54:38 am
tmatt i know got 2 right now that are extreemly athletic and don't give a hoot bout nothin. had big hogs run off wearin em like earrings but they get the job done ;D


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: dub on July 09, 2011, 02:53:03 pm
It is the Dogo haters dream ;D Just poking back so don't get all mad at me.

But if you got the Dogo at two years old you do not know how it was treated the first year. If the Dogo way hurt before one year old be glad he catching. I would also say that if it was sold at two years old it may be a cull. I do not know the situation so I am not saying he is a cull. I have noticed some hard catching Dogos change direction while going in. But if it stops and barks at two years old something is not right. If he catches then hunt him. But I would not breed the dog.

Good luck


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: Muddogkennels on July 09, 2011, 04:35:49 pm
Breed him back to a good bay dog I have seen good dogs from that cross ! 


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: hogdoggintexas on July 15, 2011, 02:20:46 am
as long as hes catchin i dont see what would be wrong with him, i would be concerned if he just bayed
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when im looking for a good CD im not looking for a smart dog i look for a dog with more jaw than smarts. a CD that has to size up a hog means there is a chance that he will back up and bay and thats not a CD at all. 

let the curs think and the bulldogs catch


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: SCHitemHard on July 15, 2011, 02:25:10 am
as long as hes catchin i dont see what would be wrong with him, i would be concerned if he just bayed
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when im looking for a good CD im not looking for a smart dog i look for a dog with more jaw than smarts. a CD that has to size up a hog means there is a chance that he will back up and bay and thats not a CD at all. 

let the curs think and the bulldogs catch

you have a point but theres a ol sayin ive heard "a dumb dog is a dead dog" id rather have a dog that can size up his pig than a dog that tries to take on a tank


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: catchrcall on July 15, 2011, 04:11:10 am

you have a point but theres a ol sayin ive heard "a dumb dog is a dead dog" id rather have a dog that can size up his pig than a dog that tries to take on a tank

Not for me.  I'll take the dog that will try a tank.  He can think about it afterwards. 


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: blakebh on July 15, 2011, 09:49:13 am

you have a point but theres a ol sayin ive heard "a dumb dog is a dead dog" id rather have a dog that can size up his pig than a dog that tries to take on a tank

Not for me.  I'll take the dog that will try a tank.  He can think about it afterwards. 
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Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: skunkhounds on July 15, 2011, 09:57:48 am
lol i got curs that catch dont even use a bulldog and they bark a few times are they culls too                   


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: Miller Lite on July 15, 2011, 09:59:18 am
lol i got curs that catch dont even use a bulldog and they bark a few times are they culls too                   


lol i knew you would get fired up on this topic lol


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: Miller Lite on July 15, 2011, 10:02:06 am

you have a point but theres a ol sayin ive heard "a dumb dog is a dead dog" id rather have a dog that can size up his pig than a dog that tries to take on a tank

Not for me.  I'll take the dog that will try a tank.  He can think about it afterwards. 



im with this guy my bulldog better knock this piss outta a 500lbs boar hog if my cur dogs got it bayed if it barks it wont be coming home


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: skunkhounds on July 15, 2011, 10:07:45 am
i got curs that will catch any size hog  i got pits but hardley ever use them  my curs do a fine job with out ony help from a pit dogo or ab i been hunting for over 20 yrs dont see why people think you got to have bulldogs  or dogos to catch hogs my bull dogs just want to go find there own pigs to catch better have a garmin when you tailgate dropes


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: Miller Lite on July 15, 2011, 10:13:51 am
i got curs that will catch any size hog  i got pits but hardley ever use them  my curs do a fine job with out ony help from a pit dogo or ab i been hunting for over 20 yrs dont see why people think you got to have bulldogs  or dogos to catch hogs my bull dogs just want to go find there own pigs to catch better have a garmin when you tailgate dropes


i hear that ... hell i've got one dog in my yard that'll bay any size hog pretty much the rest are goin to shut it down if its under 150lbs an my gyp gets to see that she'll bay her a ss off until you get close enough for her to see you then she is done barking its time to catch thats how i know if i need to turn my bulldog loose or not if its a monster she knows to bark if its a small on she better shut him down i dont like my dogs to bay little hogs they better catch em 


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: skunkhounds on July 15, 2011, 10:20:53 am
ya if its under 300 my curs better shut it down are they dont stay in my pack to long


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: t.wilbanks on July 15, 2011, 10:59:09 am
i got curs that will catch any size hog  i got pits but hardley ever use them  my curs do a fine job with out ony help from a pit dogo or ab i been hunting for over 20 yrs dont see why people think you got to have bulldogs  or dogos to catch hogs my bull dogs just want to go find there own pigs to catch better have a garmin when you tailgate dropes
ya if its under 300 my curs better shut it down are they dont stay in my pack to long

 :o  Now i see why you keep dogs in the dog trade!!!.....  i bet its pretty tough to find a cur dog that will catch a 300 pound hog....
im lucky if mine catch a 50 pounder every now and then....  :D

but i would rather walk up and watch a good bay goin on a 100 pounder than to run up on a shredded pig or shredded dogs... jmo!  ;)


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: skunkhounds on July 15, 2011, 11:06:32 am
come on over ill take ya hunting  (http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac53/jaymesmom09/goodnight067.jpg) that hogs go good 250 i know what kind of dog i like to hunt and if it dont make the cut i sale them


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: Miller Lite on July 15, 2011, 11:11:02 am
kekeke


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: t.wilbanks on July 15, 2011, 11:13:28 am
come on over ill take ya hunting that hogs go good 250 i know what kind of dog i like to hunt and if it dont make the cut i sale them

I didnt say i didnt believe you catch them like that.... just that most cur dogs will bay big hogs....
Do you expect them to catch one that big by themselves or just as a pack?

And looking at the pic reminds me of why I dont want dogs that rough on big hogs... too much doctoring for me, but to each his own...   ;)  :)


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: skunkhounds on July 15, 2011, 11:16:46 am
ill doctor them to catch hogs not run them half way across texas .everybody crying about not catching hogs i been doing just fine in the heat with them rough dogs


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: Miller Lite on July 15, 2011, 11:21:39 am
lol here comes that pine knot .... i've been to that mans house before an seen his pile of skulls haha its kinda unbeliveable


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: t.wilbanks on July 15, 2011, 11:22:28 am
ill doctor them to catch hogs not run them half way across texas .everybody crying about not catching hogs i been doing just fine in the heat with them rough dogs

These loose dogs havent been doing too bad either for as hot as its been... but i do bet you have shorter races than me... but thats not a big deal to me....

as long as im not having to sit at home watching Teen Mom, just being in the woods makes me happy!!  ;D
Catching the hog is just a bonus... watching my young dogs work/progress is what i like to see....  ;)


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: FLBayNSlay on July 15, 2011, 11:24:32 am
come on over ill take ya hunting that hogs go good 250 i know what kind of dog i like to hunt and if it dont make the cut i sale them

I didnt say i didnt believe you catch them like that.... just that most cur dogs will bay big hogs....
Do you expect them to catch one that big by themselves or just as a pack?

And looking at the pic reminds me of why I dont want dogs that rough on big hogs... too much doctoring for me, but to each his own...   ;)  :)


HAHAHA I thought the same thing.  rolleyes  Look at that pic, almost every cur is cut open and bleeding. Where if you would of had 1 Bulldog vested up chances are your vet bill would of been lower and at least you would only be doctoring up 1 dog. I ran FL Curs for a little while that would catch nething or at least try with another dog, then I got tired of doctoring dogs and not hunting because they were laid up on IR. You sound like my buddy from S FL he thinks you can catch any hog with 2 or 3 gritty curs. To each his own......I like 1 baydog and 1 catchdog that goes in there like a heat seeking missile.  ;D


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: skunkhounds on July 15, 2011, 11:25:14 am
i feed them to produce pork not chase them thats just me


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: skunkhounds on July 15, 2011, 11:28:37 am
i didnt have a vet bill one lol took 45 min of my time to fix them up and had a heck of a time putting the pork in the truck  GOOD DOGS  that was last yr im still hunting the same ones and a bulldog he would have got just as shredded up or worse


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: skunkhounds on July 15, 2011, 11:49:18 am
thats where your wrong i got 5 pits i run in a pack when i get beat down in a spot more then once i put nothing but a pack of pits on the ground and get the big nasty hog that my curs cant handle. i been hunting hogs for 20 years now i have tryed every kind of dog you can get for this sport and i like the type of dogs i got now the best they stop the hogs not run it for ever


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: Mike on July 15, 2011, 12:37:24 pm
Everyone hunts how they want to hunt. If you don't like it or agree with it, thats fine... but keep the smart a$$ comments to yourselves. ;)


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: FLBayNSlay on July 15, 2011, 12:57:38 pm
You delete my comment Mike??? there was nothing smart about that.  rolleyes


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: got2catchem on July 15, 2011, 01:00:03 pm
come on over ill take ya hunting that hogs go good 250 i know what kind of dog i like to hunt and if it dont make the cut i sale them


And looking at the pic reminds me of why I dont want dogs that rough on big hogs... too much doctoring for me, but to each his own...   ;)  :)

It might just be me, but regardless of the type of dogs you hunt, I wouldn't be standing around taking pics with seeing them cut. Thats just me....



Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: t.wilbanks on July 15, 2011, 01:01:23 pm
http://www.easttexashogdoggers.com/forum/index.php?topic=33036.0

Outlaw, im guessing this is the same Dogo?   ???  :-\


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: skunkhounds on July 15, 2011, 02:24:34 pm
that was my brother takeing pics i was headed in behind the hog so dont be knocking me im down with it and not going to leave my dogs out to dry alone


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: warrent423 on July 15, 2011, 02:50:56 pm
come on over ill take ya hunting that hogs go good 250 i know what kind of dog i like to hunt and if it dont make the cut i sale them

I didnt say i didnt believe you catch them like that.... just that most cur dogs will bay big hogs....
Do you expect them to catch one that big by themselves or just as a pack?

And looking at the pic reminds me of why I dont want dogs that rough on big hogs... too much doctoring for me, but to each his own...   ;)  :)


HAHAHA I thought the same thing.  rolleyes  Look at that pic, almost every cur is cut open and bleeding. Where if you would of had 1 Bulldog vested up chances are your vet bill would of been lower and at least you would only be doctoring up 1 dog. I ran FL Curs for a little while that would catch nething or at least try with another dog, then I got tired of doctoring dogs and not hunting because they were laid up on IR. You sound like my buddy from S FL he thinks you can catch any hog with 2 or 3 gritty curs. To each his own......I like 1 baydog and 1 catchdog that goes in there like a heat seeking missile.  ;D
You must be from north Florida


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: skunkhounds on July 15, 2011, 02:58:31 pm
dont know where they are from im from central tx  leon county


Title: Re: run and catch dog question
Post by: FLBayNSlay on July 15, 2011, 03:55:11 pm
come on over ill take ya hunting that hogs go good 250 i know what kind of dog i like to hunt and if it dont make the cut i sale them

I didnt say i didnt believe you catch them like that.... just that most cur dogs will bay big hogs....
Do you expect them to catch one that big by themselves or just as a pack?

And looking at the pic reminds me of why I dont want dogs that rough on big hogs... too much doctoring for me, but to each his own...   ;)  :)


HAHAHA I thought the same thing.  rolleyes  Look at that pic, almost every cur is cut open and bleeding. Where if you would of had 1 Bulldog vested up chances are your vet bill would of been lower and at least you would only be doctoring up 1 dog. I ran FL Curs for a little while that would catch nething or at least try with another dog, then I got tired of doctoring dogs and not hunting because they were laid up on IR. You sound like my buddy from S FL he thinks you can catch any hog with 2 or 3 gritty curs. To each his own......I like 1 baydog and 1 catchdog that goes in there like a heat seeking missile.  ;D
You must be from north Florida

That's right Warrent!