EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

sure are lots of people saleing out these days whats up with that

Alot of the time......Selling out = getting rid of chit eaters to try and buy better chit eaters....

My favorite ads go like this " For sale good dog. With some time is gonna make a jam up one for sure, but just have too many to feed right now. Will sell for $$$ or trade for a good dog with real potential, no junk".................lol

inflation like the price of gas and dog food going up.

divorce...

moving away or having to work out of town...

not having a place to hunt...this is a big one...

have to be committed to the dogs and expensive to maintain the pack...

feeding dogs every day and cleaning up poop...might make someone quit...

were selling about half of our dogs because my husband lost his job and we cant afford to feed all of them...

I have seen that one before...  :o rolleyes ;D

The folks that put that one up have the makings of great politicians... ;D ;)


it is a real nice way of selling a cull to a beginner...And the beginner can "finish out" the culling process after a year...

TimmsHogDogs,

Sorry about your man losing his job...Hope he finds one soon. I have seen folks pick up work from info on this board.

I sure was not disrespecting you and yours in any way.


Cutting back the pack due to loss of job is legit and a good way for someome to get a decent dog or dogs.

I didnt take any offense, I was just stating that I promise mine arent culls lol  :) they are just the younger ones that would easily take up with another pack, some people told him of some rigs that are hiring, he's applied at about 30, I hope he hears something soon..... :)

i find it funny, IF your selling out why do you need another dog, I had somebody ask me to trade and Im like I would but I need the money not another dog.... :D

i sold out due to relocating, im in the process of starting over again

Some people have legit reasons, never been a dog trader but have had to give a dog up because had to many females w pups, my bad luck lost one to bag fever and the other had a litter of muts.
I do agree most inexperienced people go huntn one time get hooked then they get on the dog trade and buy a pack of junk.  Now they have junk to hunt and no places to hunt.  The cycle of junk dog trade starts all over again.

Over the years I have seen people come and go to hog hunting only a select few stay with it. I know guys who start fishing and sale all there dogs and then try and buy dogs after deer season.  They all call me wanting to buy dogs or want to know were  they can buy them. I feed mine year around.

yep, I knew a few who sold out after grain season but knew where to go buy dogs for the next season. Seems most of the dogs were cross breds with grit.

Just from what i've read. Some dog website is shut down and alot of 1 or 2 post screen names have appeared selling dogs...Seems shady to me...Just sayin. O and the screen name that ends with such and such kennals... LOL

We've been pounding this into everyone's head since we started this site...

TRY BEFORE YOU BUY! ;)

But, there have been some damn good hog dogs sold over the years, for lots of money, due to folks selling out for various reasons.

For the most part, I think its a summer time thing. You have to really enjoy hog hunting to hunt in this kind of weather, and good dog food isnt cheap. Its not often that you see true hog hunters and dog men sell out and if they do, its for a good reason, not because its too hot or because the snakes started crawling lol Ive even heard the excuse that they didnt want to feed a pack of dogs through deer season, ??? ??? ??? rolleyes, some things never change.

Man why did u have to mention snakes Britt, u just ruined my hunt for the night LOL.

There's all kinds of reasons but one things for sure, if the guy or girl is all scabby and shaky, sweating and thinks he has spiderwebs on his face the whole time, run.

Personally I wish about half the folks who have dogs would sell out and take up noodling or nutria hunting. I had a very tense conversation with a farmer today who apparently hates the whole lot of us. If your not making things better for the sport then dont let the door hit you where the good lord split you.

We train and sell dogs. And ours ain't junk. I tell the truth on em. And I offer trials on all. I gave a trial on a $75 dollar dog. Not everyone is trying to screw someone but there r those r.  Like Mike said try before u buy or don't gripe. And if coyote hunter posts a dog there is a trial or I Will hunt in front of u. Even on 6 wk old pups I offer to buy back at one yr for what u paid.

Well put big guy.

No tears shed for the spectators. Call that thinning the herd!

very true, statement, Reuben.  I like that.

Beware not all culls r sold under sellling out either. 

lol ya theres good reasons for sellin out... but very few, the main thing behind that slogan is either too many dog traders using the same line, or someone pawning off their junk to replace it... i mean if your sellin out why would u keep huntin and buyin or tradin more dogs? a few honest folks are truely in a bind is why there sellin dogs, but the statement (selling out) is a classic dog tradin slogan...not every dog peddler is bad but id be weary of anyone sellin a whole pile of dogs at one time, would for no reason buy a dog without a trial, and remember if someone is telling you everything u wanna hear and it sounds too good to be true then it probably is ;)

Like I stated before,I am "selling out" or thinning out because my husband lost his job, we are keeping our best dogs because I know we will get back into hunting at some point its just to hard to feed 30 dogs right now, I am weary of buying from people I see always having "finished" dogs for sale. I sold a female BMC she was fully trained but I told the man I am selling her for a good going price instead of a finished price because to me no dog is ever finished, they can always learn something new. She hunts out, and strikes her own hogs but she hunts better one day and the next she doesnt hunt as good, It takes dogs time to re-ajust to a new pack and people have to understand that when buying or selling a dog, It could take the dogs months to finally get used to its surrounding so a 2 week trial isnt gonna help that kind of dog, but if you at least offer that is what counts.

Im selling out due to the oil field boom and nit having a steady place to have my kennels set up the way I want them . I'll be back in a few months

Other than the dog trader/selling out scenario, I think the idea of selling out is relative to how vested you are in your current pack.

In my situation, I could have "sold out" earlier this year. Haven't been hunting as much, I started team roping which has taken a huge amount of my time, and I have been doing some home remodeling. All things that have kept me away from hog dogging.  If I was not vested in a few of the dogs, I could have put up an ad that said I was selling out. Not because anything was wrong with the dogs, and not because I am a dog trader, but because other things were taking priority, and I would rather see my dogs in the woods hunted than sitting on chains or in kennels.   Due to the fact that I am vested in a few dogs, and I would like to continue hunting when time allows, I sent a couple dogs to friends to be hunted, while my attention was elsewhere.  I also sold the young dogs/pups that would not be started if I kept them in my kennels, and I sold my catch dogs, as they are not necessary for me to find hogs with.   Now I would gladly give out contact info to anyone wanting to inquire about the dogs I sold, to see if the purchaser thought I passed on some of my "junk"....  You will likely find that they were pleased with their purchase, and the dogs are exactly as they were presented.

I typed all that to basically say,    Don't just assume that because someone is "selling out", that it is to pass on junk. As it certainly was not the case in my situation.   If I wasn't vested in the few dogs I kept, I would have sold out everything, and it still would have been a fair deal for anyone looking to purchase some dogs.  Just because some is selling out, does not mean they are misrepresenting anything...

Kinda like Mike has mentioned so many times... hunt it before you buy it. If you like the dog, who gives a damn what the circumstances are behind selling.

Mayb so circle c but my (good) dogs would never b sold even if I had to live under a bridge and use them as pillows... I been ropin as long as I have been hog huntin I hope To see u at a ropin somewhere where bouts u rope at?  Sure if u have 30 dogs and loose Ur job some have to go... But I bet the best ones don't go first... The least liked ones go first no need in sugar coatin it cuz that's the truth of it, I have welded outta town on pipelines for months and sold off all but 3 dogs and they went with me and stayed in hotel rooms on the road with me, wasnt the ideal situation but it was the dogs or the job...a good jam up dog usually doesn't have a lot of ownership changes and anyone that has a sellin out add is obviously gonna try  to justify why there sellin out and I'm sure Workin and lack of working are legit reasons for sellin out and I wasn't really referring to that but just wanted to bring up that a good bit of the time the dogs Gettin sold are not 100% jam up priceless finished dogs that just can't afford to feed  but to some extent are culls that are wantin thinned out for some reason... I avoid the sell out approach by having 5-6 (good) dogs and that's it... If I can't catch hogs with just a couple then I just won't hunt... I'm not Runnin a kennel or puppy mill I have hog dogs and there's no way I could hunt 30 of them so I see no reason to own that many... common sence but it's just my opinion.  beware of someone selling multiple dogs as far as finished or older dogs are concerned ;)

I think it's fair to say that when someone is selling out, they are getting rid of everything, including the good ones.   If they are selling down/thinning down, then they are keeping what they like, and selling the rest. Whether they are culls, good dogs, whatever they are, the person does not want them anymore. Doesn't make the person a crook.


As for the roping.  I've been roping locally, not hauling anywhere. Just now learning, and getting a little better each day. But, y'all watch out now, I have a plan. Gonna hone my skills privately, then put in for a card and carry around a #3 until they wise up. ;) haha  I have a few friends that have been helping me each time at the practice pen, not sure if you know any of them. Chad and Tim Brock, Trull Tettenhorst, Jon T, Jacob Hayman, , Brother Toups. Truth is, I am having fun and making a little progress. My "trainers" say I should be hauling to some jackpots, but I want to get more consistent before I go throw away my hard earned money.

Ya gotta b careful these days them high school kids will take Ur hard earned money fast don't underestimate them like I did lol ;D i have a pen at the house but haven't been  Haulin very far too hot for me just local jackpots is bout it.
And I was kinda referring to the selling out as far as the folks sellin out but still keepin half a dozen dogs or sellin out for good but want to trade for other hog dogs and stuff like that... (thinning out) is different story and everyone does it for some reason or another and Alota folks tell u exactly what Ur buyin and why their sellin it and those people usually can b trusted from what I've learned

WOW really, no I dont hunt 30 dogs at once 19 of those are puppies(two litters) and I have two sets of dogs that I can take at different times in case a few get hurt, I am not a puppy mill I bred two litter for specific reasons and due to a change in job situations I can no longer afford to keep any of the puppies I had planned to keep. I am not just keeping my favorites, Im keeping my oldest dogs that I have had since puppies and selling the rest, I know that the dogs I have for sale will do exactly what I say they will and I will buy them back if I have too, I sell dogs occasionally yes but they are always what I say they are and I have never had anyone come back and say that I cheated them, the people I keep in touch with have turned those dogs/ puppies into dang good dogs

Wasn't singling anyone out timms... Long as the morales are there... I use to b one of the biggest dog pimps in 4 states till bout 4 or 5 years ago, to this day I have people all over the country that were satisfied callin me Lookin for dogs... I was honest and stood behind everydog I sold good or bad and nobody would say different... Dog traders supply alot of good dogs to folks, just Tryin to say gotta b careful Is all ;)

I understand you have to be carefull, just seemed kinda pointed out is all, I would keep all of the dogs I have of I could but unfortunatly cant, sometimes being responsible sucks  :(

No not at all I cometely understand where Ur comin from... There are folks with 30 (finished) hog dogs for sale tho lol  :D

It's also amazing bow many people just starting out get on here looking for advice on a dog.  They don't like the responses and the dog ends up on the Dog Trade and has been catching or finding hogs for two or three years  ;D

It's about as bad as the ones selling out every couple of months.  Even though their really is some people who do sell out legitimately and that's where you'll find your gems.

"Cutter Bay Kennels"?   >:(

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Yep, you are now classified as a dog peddler!!!  ;D  rolleyes

 Whats funny is when they "sell out" its usually never gear like vest's and tracking systems its just dogs. If I was to quit my dogs would go to my hunting buddies and the gear would be sold. That way if I did decide to get back into it there is a slight chance of getting a few of my dogs back.

No sweat Cutter lotta kennels are associated with dog tradin... But if there weren't breeders then most folks wouldn't have any dogs at all ;)

X2 big ben

LOL you guys are silly