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Title: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: T-Bob Parker on August 01, 2011, 05:39:16 pm
Have any of you ever seen a dog tie a gyp thru a wire kennel? A female I gave to a friend a few weeks ago appears to have been bred in just such a scenario. She stayed kenneled thru the entirety of her last cycle save 2 trips to the woods when I used her as a lead in catch dog and was under my supervision the whole time. Everything is fine, we've come to an agreement on the situation and there's no hard feelings but Im still scratching my head over this one.


Title: Re: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: OCD on August 01, 2011, 06:02:45 pm
I gave a guy a gyp a few weeks ago that has been kenneled for a little over a month and when he came to get her she appeared to be breed. after he took her he called me back and said she was breed. still not sure how it happen.


Title: Re: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: Purebreedcolt on August 01, 2011, 06:05:03 pm
Dang it tbob don't tell me this this was part of the reasoning for kennels no more unplanned litters lol.


Title: Re: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: Reuben on August 01, 2011, 06:11:49 pm
not sayin it can't happen but I would have to see it with my own 2 eyes. ???  :-\


Title: Re: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: J.Prince on August 01, 2011, 06:39:08 pm
My grandpa swears to have had a boar hog in the day that mastered that skill and bred more than one sow through the fence. Just here say though but I guess it's possible.


Title: Re: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: T-Bob Parker on August 01, 2011, 06:46:56 pm
My kennels are 2x4 wire or 4x4 wire but the kennels shea and red were in were both 4x4s

She's had false pregnancies before but Kevin says she's swollen in the belly and she didn't do that last time.
I guess we'll find out in a week or two.


Title: Re: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on August 01, 2011, 07:13:39 pm
About 7 years ago I was over at a deer dog buddy of mine's house. We were looking at his dogs. He kenneled them one in each pen. He arranged them male, female, male, female, and so on. I asked him why, and he said that he did not want to deal with males fighting between the wire. Personally, I understood what he was saying, but fealt that arrangement never let his males get used to being in close proximity to other males. I have my own thoughts on living arrangements around the kennels, but that is besides the point.  Anyway, I noticed one of his females was coming into season.  I mentioned to him that he may want to move her, as she was between 2 males. He explained that he had had dogs for 35 years, and it was not possible to breed between chainlink. I laughed, and told him to make sure and enjoy his litter. He assured me I was wrong. I knew differently, but left it at that. 2 months later he called to apologize. He said he had left her in that pen by herself for the whole time. Sure enough she had a litter.

It won't be the last litter conceived in this manor either. Whenever people talk about placing blocks between pens, it is important to go 3 tiers for this reason alone. 2 won't help a bit. Think about your younger days. Where there is a will, there is a way.   ;)


Title: Re: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: T-Bob Parker on August 01, 2011, 08:20:43 pm
Man cutterbay, that is a truly tragic story, these dogs weren't blueticks, so I guess I should count my blessings for that at least!!  :D

Seriously, im glad im not the first to have an acrobat and a skank in my kennels :laugh: :laugh:


Title: Re: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on August 01, 2011, 08:24:00 pm
Man cutterbay, that is a truly tragic story, these dogs weren't blueticks, so I guess I should count my blessings for that at least!!  :D

Seriously, im glad im not the first to have an acrobat and a skank in my kennels :laugh: :laugh:

His were running walkers. That is what made it so bad.


Title: Re: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: Reuben on August 01, 2011, 08:24:44 pm
About 7 years ago I was over at a deer dog buddy of mine's house. We were looking at his dogs. He kenneled them one in each pen. He arranged them male, female, male, female, and so on. I asked him why, and he said that he did not want to deal with males fighting between the wire. Personally, I understood what he was saying, but fealt that arrangement never let his males get used to being in close proximity to other males. I have my own thoughts on living arrangements around the kennels, but that is besides the point.  Anyway, I noticed one of his females was coming into season.  I mentioned to him that he may want to move her, as she was between 2 males. He explained that he had had dogs for 35 years, and it was not possible to breed between chainlink. I laughed, and told him to make sure and enjoy his litter. He assured me I was wrong. I knew differently, but left it at that. 2 months later he called to apologize. He said he had left her in that pen by herself for the whole time. Sure enough she had a litter.

It won't be the last litter conceived in this manor either. Whenever people talk about placing blocks between pens, it is important to go 3 tiers for this reason alone. 2 won't help a bit. Think about your younger days. Where there is a will, there is a way.   ;)

When I was 18 I would travel 90 miles for a back massage and a home cooked meal and got a few speeding tickets getting there. :) Those were the good ole days...I wouldn't do that now cause I am a married man, or is it that that burning desire isn't there like it used to be... ??? :(. ;D it is an old saying but I sure would like to be 18 again and know what I know now. ;)

I had a male in a kennel then female and then another male and never had a problem but it was chain link. The main reason I did it that way is because the males would try to kill each other if it were male next to male.


Title: Re: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on August 01, 2011, 08:28:11 pm
I had a male in a kennel then female and then another male and never had a problem but it was chain link. The main reason I did it that way is because the males would try to kill each other if it were male next to male.

They sound like great dogs to be around.  rolleyes

I've got no time for that type of nonsense.  :angel:


Title: Re: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: Reuben on August 01, 2011, 08:37:41 pm
Cutter bay

it was a fault but I brought it on myself. I liked independent alfa type males and I bred for that trait. they got along great in the woods and yard but I had to watch them in the dog box and when bored in the kennels next to each other they would fight each other thru the wire.


Title: Re: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: Cutter Bay Kennels on August 01, 2011, 08:43:47 pm
Cutter bay

it was a fault but I brought it on myself. I liked independent alfa type males and I bred for that trait. they got along great in the woods and yard but I had to watch them in the dog box and when bored in the kennels next to each other they would fight each other thru the wire.

Don't get me wrong, I've had a few idiots in my kennels over the years. After showing me that they had no interest in seeing it my way, they were given a ticket outa here. I will not tolerate it. My hunting buddies know not to even ask to bring one around me or my hounds.


Title: Re: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: Critter Catcher on August 01, 2011, 09:47:41 pm
Let me tell y'all a story of this guy that begged me to take this dog off his hands, told me she just came out of heat and she always has a false pregnancy...It ain't false...I'm starting to think T-bob is the perfect puppy peddler..he just gives you the pups mom and all...just kidding around..the pups should be some good dogs...probably be giving all but 1 or 2 to some young doggers getting started..


Title: Re: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: T-Bob Parker on August 01, 2011, 10:04:55 pm
Hahahahahahaha well a no account, low down, sorry, dirty, dog jockey like me deserves that I reckon  :laugh:

It makes me feel better knowing they're in good hands. And if we get a red blackmouth with big floppy ears I'll play you paper rock scissors for him ;)


Title: Re: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: TimmsHogDogs on August 01, 2011, 10:32:16 pm
I sold a dog a few months back that had just come out of her first heat, she was chained bacause  I dont have my kennels built yet but I didnt think she was close enough to a male to get bred....hmm.... well I was wrong the guy called me a few weeks later and wanted to know if I knew what she had been bred by... Well after the puppys were born we found out my catch dog is a man wh***


Title: Re: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: brian adams on August 01, 2011, 11:03:33 pm
yes they can THINK ABOUT IT  its a no brainer


Title: Re: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: WayOutWest on August 01, 2011, 11:25:07 pm
I have friends that had a bitch APBT bred thru a Vari-kennel door. That male dog had to be some kinda vulnerable for awhile.


Title: Re: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: charles on August 02, 2011, 03:31:33 am
I had a gyp get knocked up through them 2x4 wire kennels. My wife had her in the kennel n a stray black dog running loose in my old neighbor hood managed to breed her. I did see it happen through cattle pannels aswell


Title: Re: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: Oly on August 02, 2011, 06:54:48 am
not sayin it can't happen but I would have to see it with my own 2 eyes. ???  :-\

Same here


Title: Re: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: Oly on August 02, 2011, 06:57:41 am
Seriously, im glad im not the first to have an acrobat and a skank in my kennels :laugh: :laugh:


LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL  ;D :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: Mike C. on August 02, 2011, 10:58:11 am
I use to work at a hunting camp where we had around 60 dogs, pointers and retrievers.  They were all in a kennel by themselves, well one of the lab females got bred and she had a cocker spaniel on both sides of her!  :D  The pups came out looking like midget labs and some had a lil more ear to them lol.


Title: Re: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: Logan-99 on August 02, 2011, 11:02:37 am
Man cutterbay, that is a truly tragic story, these dogs weren't blueticks, so I guess I should count my blessings for that at least!!  :D

Seriously, im glad im not the first to have an acrobat and a skank in my kennels :laugh: :laugh:
x2


Title: Re: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: sfboarbuster on August 02, 2011, 01:27:42 pm
I had a male in a kennel then female and then another male and never had a problem but it was chain link. The main reason I did it that way is because the males would try to kill each other if it were male next to male.

They sound like great dogs to be around.  rolleyes

I've got no time for that type of nonsense.  :angel:

Me neither. My dogs better be able to get along with each other at the house, in the woods, and in the dog box


Title: Re: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: Reuben on August 02, 2011, 06:16:39 pm
I had a male in a kennel then female and then another male and never had a problem but it was chain link. The main reason I did it that way is because the males would try to kill each other if it were male next to male.

They sound like great dogs to be around.  rolleyes

I've got no time for that type of nonsense.  :angel:

Me neither. My dogs better be able to get along with each other at the house, in the woods, and in the dog box

Well...I will tell you that I am one of the worst about culling hard. I can not stand an aggressive dog and we have already wore that subject out about a month ago. I will not keep one nor will I breed one even if it is a great hog dog. This type of aggressive behavior is different from the type I tolerate.

I do not see it as a serious falt when A pack of dogs is packed tight in a dog box for an hour and 2 males fight. I do not like it but it is no reason to cull because these are un- natural conditions for the dogs.

I also do not fault the dogs if they show aggression toward one another when kenneled next to each other in 4x12 kennels. I could raise them together and they would sort out the pecking order but I like keeping them apart because once a female comes in heat they will fight and I can not fault the dogs for that.

I like a well built powerful cur dog that is built for speed and agility as well as power and these dogs can get rough in a fight. I like dogs that mind their own business in the yard and in the woods...

I never keep a dog that is too interested in maintaining dominance or even just a little is too much for me.

I like my dog to defend itself if attacked by another dog. Matter of fact I expect it. :)


Title: Re: gyp bred thru kennel???
Post by: Hog_Hunter_57 on August 03, 2011, 11:21:19 am
I keep male and female dogs opposite one another I am not saying it can't happen, but I have never had it happen. My kennels are 2+4 and 4+4.