EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

If you had to completely rebuild your pack what kind of dogs would you use and where as in whom would you get them from?

Bob Cox  bred YBMC dogs would be my first choice, if I didn't go back to what I have already. either way it would be a rougher style dog for the new area I'm moving to

 buy a boat. ;D


      Start off by finding a dog that I want all my dogs to hunt like and buy it. Spending 200-500 here and there for pos dogs is a waste. Spend the time hunting with people and make the first dog you buy what you want pups to end up like then spend time hunting with others to find a dog that fits into your idea of a dog.

I'm in the process of starting over right now. Have 2 pups from CrackerC right now, not sure where I am going to go from here though.

The plott breeders I got some of my original dogs are no longer living or have gotten out of the game, so I would have to find those who had pups out of them and then convince them to sell me a pup or two, (I prefer to get my dogs in pairs, it is easier on the pups and me).

Good luck finding a good plott. Hey, it will be easier than finding a walker worth feeding.  >:D

and yet still easier than finding a boo-tick that you dont want to shoot ;D

Bring your pack down in February, and we will cull the losers dogs.  :o

we would have to run them on multiple species then, cat, hog and bear

lol he aint lyin

I'm feeling generous. Well add dillers in there too.  :laugh:

in all seriousness I have tried several strains of bluetick, I have loved the smokey river line and we are planning on getting one cameron bred one later to try again.... lets see if my luck with these little blues is better than the last 17

Hollar if I can helping any way.

cutter,
thanks, they usually had a good handle and were good hunters, but it was thier damn barking that got to me. I can handle a bark or two but barking to bark and then bark at themseleves again go to me, we got them all as pups and raised them alongside our brindles but they just did not have a mute button.

so cutter where would you get new dogs to start with if you have too

The same man I got my females from.  ;)

If he was gone, I'd go to buddies that hunt pups off of my stock. I'm covered.  :angel:

he would getem from me jj

First thing I'd do is find a guy THAT ACTAULLY CATCHES PIGS....  hunt with him, if the dogs hunt the way I like to hunt... I'd do what I had to to try and get some blood off them...

For me, I'd probably go back to my buds Donny Woods or Fred Stuart... but that's prolly a WAY different type dog than you want...

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Shoot, you're asking questions that were answered years ago. What would make me think you have the new and improved line of dogs with that type of mentality?   >:D

You've got to be a leader, not a way back yonder follower.  8)

Lol that's a good one I like it

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Thats why I keep a few close friends. Got enough around to be able to put me back into the Yeller dogs perty quick if I bite the hard one. Shouldn't have to worry bout it if you stage your dogs correctly but chit happens! ;D

I have been doing that for years, getting verbal permission to breed back to any of the pups coming out of my yard if needed.

Arrowbar don't take them good plotts around the gators. The gators know what Blueticks eat and don't mess with them.

I am starting over again and I am trying to duplicate my old line of dogs I used to run. Only difference is I will add a touch of pit or a touch of super rough florida cur that produces hog. But only after I get these dogs hunting like I like...

if i had to start over i would get foundation BMCs and breed them to a good game pit, i would also look into a jagd breeder, and would get some plotts to keep them running

If i lost my pack tomorrow, i would probably burn my pens, sell my box, and gear any buy a new harley.. heck int he long run its ALOT cheaper..  rolleyes

I really like the sound of that, but I received little encouragement from those I discussed the cross with. I had dreamed of a close range wind dog that only barked when forced to by a bad one. Short races and catching 200lb. sows with a pair. I look forward to seeing your pups.
I like that to; maybe it's cause I've always had pits. I have a little terrier PLEASE come get her. :)

Shankem which cross did you recieve little encouragement about?  Sometimes ill run two dogs on thegrond at the same time, and the one thats always ont he ground is  6 yea old Fl cur.  If i run him and my cat cross gyp together i may get a bark or two (from her) ive never see him bay with another dog.  If its him and my year old there aint no barking.

I was thinking of crossing my mt. curr with my pit. Sounds like you got a helluva dog down there; usually don't need a bulldog with a pair like that. Awesome!

catahoulas from tx mason

Shankem the large majority of Fl curs are gritty, and usually catch their own.  Thats why i was wonderin on which cross.  Both my pit and my cat coss broke out of their pens while i was at work.  came home to them locked up.  I keep in contact with 7 out of the 8 people who got a pupa and they all said they already will bay a SMALL hog.  Pups are 4 or 5 months.  the one i kept hasnt seen one yet, but my hunting partner has 2.  One will bay one we have to hold on too cause hell catch.  rolleyes  Youll never know till you try the cross.

I wouldn't do it the way I have the first go round! I would find someone who is using their stock/hunting dogs that fit the style I like on a weekly or preferrably a daily basis. I would then work my tail end off for them, beg, bribe, and do whatever I had to until I got the chance to buy a pup or two from them. I would then raise them up the way I wanted them to be raised, and hunt the fire out of them when they got old enough. I would have a base to go off of then, and earn the respect of my peers by having quality, not quantity.

By the way, breed would not matter to me. How they work and how the previous generations they were out of worked would matter. I don't care if it is yellow, leopard, black/tan, blue, white, or pink and purple polka dotted. If the line of dogs suited my purpose and style I would pursue it.

i was jokn bout tha terrier she aint a jagd she a stray. I wouldnt wish that dog on n e one. Thanx for tha info rd.

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Been there, done that.  Tried just about everything, doesn't mean I had the best of anything, but I gave 'em all a try.  Cleaned house about 4 years ago, with the exception of my first cur dog, and went to straight Kemmers.  Not saying that they are the best hog dogs in the world, but they sure suit me and my needs. 

But at the end of the day, what should matter the most is not what breed of dog it is but that it's owner takes pride in owning it.   ;)

i just got done starting over ... I HOPE  lol

  i found a family of dogs that suited my needs ( except hunting too deep sometimes ) and am running with it .

   1 bad cow or boar hog and i could be starting over again !       but at least now i know where not to start !

I did that and all I got was leftovers. I want the whole litter to play with. Catching hogs regular with what I got just want to breed my own. At this time I am leaning towards a proven deep cast cur/hound cross with lots of stay. Less vet bills and hopefully a better % of hunting dogs. If I can't shorten the race I want dogs that go yonder and bay for hours if need be; if I'm lucky they'll be runnin' miles and miles if need be. I have found it difficult to carry weight on my heart when a pup was built up only to have DYSPLASIA or lack of want to; so this is where I'm at.  Not starting over; trying to get started now.

Shankem

Keeping the whole litter is good but you can test the pups and cut down right away and this will save you some cash.

also can run a few long range dogs with a few short range dogs that don't have much nose but are super rough and will make every step the long range dogs will make. I see where you have a mtn cur. Mtn Cur crossed with pit will create a few hard hunting rcd's that do not bark but hunt and find hogs. I would try to get that down to 1/4 pit.

Keeping the whole litter is good but you can test the pups and cut down right away and this will save you some cash. ???

also can run a few long range dogs with a few short range dogs that don't have much nose but are super rough and will make every step the long range dogs will make. I see where you have a mtn cur. Mtn Cur crossed with pit will create a few hard hunting rcd's that do not bark but hunt and find hogs. I would try to get that down to 1/4 pit. ;D
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 At what age do you test pups? Test for tracking or catching? Winding? This is why I'm not breeding her for awhile. ???

i would use nothing but campbell curs from georgia. i've had four and won't hunt nothing else.

Ridge back crossed with hound or bmc