EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

Hey guy I wanted to know what some of you use to bait hogs in. I have an area that isnt very infested bit I would like ot to be. I mean you see some but I need more hogs for my young dogs to get on. I have tried soured corn and ot didn't do the trick. I just got some pig out from bass pro. But I don't know how well its gonna work I just put it out today with a cameraany others I could try? Thanks for any advice!.

I always have good luck with diesel corn. Soak corn in diesel for a good while and spread out. Deer and cattle wont eat it but hogs lap it up. I also will dig about a 3 foot hole with post hole diggers and fill the hole up with the corn, and put a lil dirt on top of it. It will start a wallow and they keep coming back.

 


Why dont you get a spincast deer feeder and set it to only go off at night and dump your dogs loose and walk them up to as its going off, they will still be there if you time it right and you can have a sight race for young pups, soaking corn in diesel is against the law and who the heck came up with this idea???  Diesel corn eating pigs sounds like a way to kill  hog and people who eat the meat and is downright retarded if you think about it, benzene is the leading cause of cancer down here where i live, its in gas, diesel, oil pine trees, oil based driling mud, stay away from anybody who is using it to trap hogs unless you want a bellyache or cancer is my advice, any landowner who found that on a ranch down here would run you off on the spot!!

Depends on what you do with the hogs, i get mine to train pups with and dont eat them if they have eatin the diesel corn. What about the creosote telephone poles?! Hogs will naw on them and get it in their system. Does that make that illegal?

Im no doctor but if they eat diesel and get cancer.....i dont think eating it would give you cancer. been using diesel soaked corn for....ever!

In case you have not noticed, cresote is full of benezene and i have not seen it for sale at feed stores in ages, all of those post makers went out of business who used to make cresote posts,,,,,,,,,what about the hogs that came in and ate a belly full and ran off next ranch where somebody shot it and ate them and all died, get the point, its retarded and insane to use it, if a protected bird eats it like a whooping crane and dies you goting to do time and a fine

I dont think, wow, so you let your wife mom and dad and your kids eat pigs that been eating diesl soaked corn??? shakes head, go figure

Actually I prefer my diesel over my breakfast cereal. I would like to see some real scientific data on it. I don't eat many of them but it would be interesting to see.

I think as long as your not having chitlings you should be alright. ;D lol

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I use half bag of hog heaven or hog wild mix it with 5gallon bucket of corn with big red or sometimes water with a lid. Let it set for 4/5 days. It works for me. I also Barry some in a lil bucket and bait out on top of it

Look up the term bioaccumulation (sp)

haha,  i dont feed it to them year round or water my yard with diesel, but its the best attractant out there. I would hate to see how many gallons of diesel are actually used in a year on catching hogs in Texas. Not to mention in OK,LA,AR,MS,TN,FL and all the other states.

You don't have to feed it year round it goes off the half life principle

all chemicals do not bioaccumulate. The only studies i can find relate to benzene. It doesnt bioaccumulate in marine animals.....not exactly pigs but i doubt it accumulates in pigs either. I will continue to research it and if i find something saying diesel bioaccumulates in hogs i might stop using it.  ;D.

bioaccumulation (sp) of petrol based products has been studied a good bit in my line of work (auto tech). I've had nearly daily contact with used oil,gasoline,diesel and or others for over 25 yr.'s.  There have been numerous tech over the years claim damage or illness from bioaccumulation (sp) of burn motor oil. And every studie sways show it would take like 100 times the daily contact that tech's are exposed to. So I don't think the hogs are getting enough long term exposure for it to cause a secondary bioaccumulation. But that's just my 2 cents

I'm no hog hunter as yall know by my user name  :D but i've heard of strawberry jello powder and corn....and Whatever happen to that black gold stuff...It works great for coons and deer but no hogs  ???

from the EPA:

E. Environmental Fate: Benzene can volatilize into the air from water and soil (2, 76). Benzene can
break down within a few days in air, whereas benzene breaks down more slowly in water and soil. It can
also easily leach from the soil into groundwater. Benzene does not bioaccumulate in plants or animals.


heres the link to read up on it:  http://www.epa.gov/teach/chem_summ/BENZ_summary.pdf

There you go Muleman, I just ordered me another tanker of diesel and 4 tons of corn. lol

farm diesel or regular diesel?? i prefer the flavor of the farm diesel myself....

I got hold of some soar mash that was left over after it had been run through a still....I've never seen anything like it for bait. The hogs went nuts over it, came to it 3 times the first day....all in the daylight. They licked the ground clean of it.....it smelled to high heaven but they literally went crazy over the stuff.

farm diesel, keeps it more lubed. Plus they think the red color is strawberries!

 Gonna have to remember that.  ;D

dang i was a diesle mechanic for years does this meen i'm gonna die ? we used diesle soaked corn till diesle prices got to high then quit . it has no side effects as to the meat . hell i used to put it on my dogs . first thing a hog does with diesle soaked corn in trap or on the ground is drop and roll in it to get the diesle on its body same reason they rub on creosote poles helps as insect repelant . now i cook my own corn mash just like for makin wisky it works great  and sends a smell a long ways off . you can cure your own by adding yeast and sugar to your soaked corn and let it set till it quits bubbleing you have to add a bit of water when the corn soaks it up. AND THEN HAVE YO SELF A NIP TOO !!!

Halfbreed, How much yeast and sugar would i put in a 5 gallon bucket of corn to make it?

could you post a step by step instruction on how to make it

i had a buddy who was manager at a walmart near the old house and he would call me and give me 55 gal drums of old and rotten fruit, we didnt have hogs when i started but we had plenty when i moved ;)

I made some sour mash after I used up all that from the moonshine guy. I used about 25 or 30 lbs. of cracked corn, 3 packs of yeast, one pound of sugar per gallon of water,.....of which I used about 5 or 6 gallons. It will 'work' or ferment for several days, bubbling like it's boiling....finally yielding alcohol,....which will evaporate if left open....then it will start to decompose and that's when it gets good I reckon.

thanks gonna try on hogs  ;)

Use to bait traps with diesel corn. Keeps the critters off it & hogs love it.  8)

 Wow! I didn't expect diesel fuel to be attracting hogs! Now the jello thing I did expect any other. Easy ways and I think I'm going to try that mash. Did you do it in 5 gallon buckets or a drum? Then I take it you poured it on the grown? Or leave it in the container and just poked holes in it.  What I have done is just poured pig out on the ground and in 4 days I'm gonna go back and hope I see something on the camera if i dont im gonna be so. upset and take it out on the next proker i see! Lol

I made my mash in a small drum with a lid for it....you could use a 5 gallon bucket I'm sure. I poured it out on the ground and kinda scattered it out so they would have to work for it.

I heard the smell of diesel pulls them in to rub on and get rid of the bugs. Then pigs are the only thing that will eat the diesel corn. But I know old donuts call them pigs in plus you can get it free. Just check the local grocery store and get the throw away bread it will have donuts in there. I just asked the manager and he gave me a couple trash bags full. I just dumped the whole bag out and it worked just great. Never used diesel but I won't say never.

Get you a cheap bottle of whiskey drink till you can't stand it no more and pore the rest in a bucket of corn.  Add berry jello and or koolaid. Fill to the top of corn and just a hair over nd let sit for a couple days longer if cold.  This is the best I have ever tried.  Diesel works well also take some used oil and pore on burlap bags and tie to a tree or pole.  I would love to try the sour mash bet that works well but knowing me I would try to drink it lmao.

here is an msds for diesel go to section 11 http://www.hess.com/ehs/msds/9909DieselFuelAllTypes.pdf
the term ld50 means that at a given rate 50 percent of the population with be killed. Becareful because these values are not that strong

To make sour mash, I use a 55 gallon drum with a screw on lid, if you can find one.
fill about 1/2. To 3/4 with whole corn. Dont fill it plumb full cause the corn swells.
fill with water til it just covers corn by couple inches. Add 5-10 lb of sugar and 3-4 packs of yeast.
    Stir it best you can and put lid back on and leave it loose enough to burp, or let excess gasses out. Let set for couple weeks to whenever, it will last a very long time.
    I just hold my breath and dip it out with a bucket. Be sure not to get it on you or your wife will make you sleep outside.
    Its like hog crap, it wont wash off.  ;D

Hog wild works great, I used it this past weekend. I get it for 6.99 a bag, it goes a long way if u use it right.

 
 I guess it depends on where you live cause right now you can bait hogs with water around here.  :D  Years ago, my father n law used to pour burnt motor oil in old dried up wallows and the hogs loved to roll in it to get rid of lice. Don't know if they would come to the smell but they love it when they find it.

I use sweet feed for my traps and it works good but don't use it around cows no matter how small of gate they will get in there

you sound like youve met popcorn sutton ;)

I read where a guy uses Kreso-D that you buy at the feed stores. It comes in 16 oz and 32 oz cans. It is an animal dip for horses,dogs,and cattle. It is clear like solvent but has a super strong kreso smell. You can mix it with water and put it in a pump up hand held sprayer and spray the base of trees and hogs will come rub up against the trees. Also he said you can put a piece of carpet on the back wall of a hog trap and spray the carpet with the kreso-d and fill the trap up with hogs. I havn't tried it yet but I will.(http://)(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/eelcat1/Kreso_Dip_Tree.jpg)(http://)(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/eelcat1/KD_2_28.jpg)(http://)(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/eelcat1/kreso_tree.jpg)

He lived about 40 mins from my house. From where I grew up, was about 15 min.

we use a barrel fill it half way with corn and fill it with water about 8 inches over the corn works great

Tom I saw ole' Popcorn on TV a few weeks ago. I'd seen him on a moonshine show some time back.....now he's card. I got a kick out of watching him buck dance.

That's pretty cool. I bet you could talk to a guy like him for years and years and still not hear all the wild and over the top stories be has to tell. Lol

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As much as I would have liked to known him, I honestly have to admit that I never met him personally but pretty sure ive consumed some of his products.   ;D
  Know people that did know him tho.  I have to say from what ive seen and heard of him, if you want a definition of a hillbilly,  popcorn was it.   

That was it.....that's what I saw him on.....some show about hillbillies. He was a hoot to listen to. I think he's still alive if I'm not wrong.

nope ,i saw a show where he got caught again and the judge gave him 2 years . the day before he was sposed to go to prison he ran the car exaust into his car and went to sleep . his wife found him ... he had told the judge that 2 years was a death sentence for somebody like him .

Yep, thats what the papers said.  I forget how many hundreds of gallons they found. And I bet that wasn't half of what he had.

I don't know if I missed it on here or not, but we have used fish trimmings for years. Where I grew up I believe you could pull one from two parishes over.

I have two feeders on my deer hunting grounds. I can recognize most deer from trail cam pics on my property hitting both feeders.  I have never put out any attractants other than corn, or fresh fruit from my apple or pear trees, but with little fruit this year I tried a store bought attractant. Two weeks ago,  Just for the sake of science I just put it out at one feeder to see if it made a difference. I used the Sugar Beet Crush Juice from wildgame innovations.  While I saw no difference in deer hitting the feeders. Where I put the juice, I have hog pics every single night. I know there are a few hogs where I deer hunt, but I have not had a single pic so far this year at either feeder. One night after putting that stuff out, I have them hitting that feeder. So while I can't say it is worth a darn attracting deer, that product does seem effective at drawing the hogs in. Needless to say with deer season starting saturday, I put out some more corn and another bottle of that stuff on monday. While I have got hogs with dogs, I have never got one with a bow, and that is on my to do list, so hopefully I can get it done here pretty quick.