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I recently heard a toothless old fart in a local cafe telling ghost stories to his grandkids I assume. He made mention of ghostly karankawa warriors attacking hunters and fishermen in the woods of Matagorda county. When I was a kid, I was mildly obsessed with these muddy cannibals, so I started reading again and found that surprisingly there are lots of accounts of karankawa sightings from all over the upper coast. Even a Texas game warden reported having a handcarved arrow shot at him by a tall dark "nekkid muddy savage"

In the spirit of Halloween, if you've had a run in with any angry injun, lets hear it.

A few months ago I had a run in with one... Was at a bar in Okeechobee though and he was a Seminole ;D

 Karankawa is what my grandmaw said that  we have in our bloodline.   :o

I think that's pretty dang awesome, history says very very very few whites ever saw the karankawa and lived to tell. They were such a brutal and tightly bred tribe that their Indian neighbors wouldn't even trade with them. I also read that somehow they were much taller and darker skinned than locals. Makes you wonder?

Don't know anything about them actually .....what happened to them?

they supposedly went extinct as a tribe in 1870, the more "civilized" ones
(Copoatiques) were sent to Oklahoma to live on reservations with the rest of the civilized tribes. A few others died with the Texicans in the battle for Texas indepence and the really wild ones were picked off by settlers along the coast.

What always interested me was the fact that according to Spanish explorers they originally didn't look like natives Americans were supposed to. They stood between 6 & 7 feet tall were very dark had course hair and were covered in tatoos and peircings. Like nekkid Dennis Rodmans all over the coast. I just thought it was weird that such a small gene pool was surviving here on the coast.

They were also said to be very experienced hunting dog breeders

What I remember from reading about them in 7th grade Texas history is that as mentioned, the karankawas were cannibals, and that they used alligator fat as a mosquito repellent.

In edit;  just did some more reading on them, and Wikipedia indicates they used shark liver oil for the skeeters.

Even scarier than the Karankawas were the Fucawees. They could sneak up on you in the tall marsh grass like a ghost.

I have run into a few angry indians but they had their clothes on. The guys and me won that fight too ;D If I see any naked man I am running real fast the other way because I just don't go that way. ;D But to each their own rolleyes

But that is cool. I learned about them in Texas History and they said alligator fat and other stuff was used for mosquitoes and it smelled real bad. I also heard that they told stories about a man removing their intestines and doing a ritual with them and putting them back into the person. When asked where that man was they pointed to cracks in the ground.

interesting . i remember louis lamour talking about them in one of his books , i had never heard of cannibal indians before . if they were africans instead of indians that would add up alot better  ;)

I guess no one is going to bite...

The Fucawees were a tribe of pigmy indians that lived in the marshes south of Winnie. They would hunt all day and by the end of the day they had always lost their way in the tall marsh grass. They would stand on each other's shoulders and say, "Where the Fucawee?"

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa :laugh: :'( :laugh:

 rolleyes ;D

Haha...years ago there was a bar a few miles from my house called Fucawee. One of my buddies actually has the old sign from the bar hanging in his garage, and it has a little indian feller on the sign.

They weren't indians it was just some of them sawed coonarses

hhhhhhhhmmmmmmm.......That would explain a few things.  ;D :D  J/K

I was thinking that myself Tom...... :o

yeah Id have to say i hope they werent really indians, give us a bad name,eatin eachother and all, I do like nekked lady indians though,weeeechaw! I live by another tribe the Apache's, we went huntin the other nite and saw these 2 monkeys out front of a store tap dancing and playing the harmonica, my buddy sat and watched for a while then gave em 20 dollars, I asked what the heck you give them monkeys all your money for, he said well them apache kids are kinda cute when theyre little!!!!!