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HOG & DOGS => GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: YELLOWBLACKMASK on December 06, 2011, 09:55:20 pm



Title: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: YELLOWBLACKMASK on December 06, 2011, 09:55:20 pm
Most folks are looking to find cheaper feed but retain the required nutrients to sustain your dogs health and performance.  Just wondering what types of fillers or tricks folks might be utilizing to stretch your feed.

Some examples are wetting your dry feed and mixing cheaper feed into higher protein feed.

What is your methods?



Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: PEEWEE on December 06, 2011, 10:02:41 pm
I use rice bran oil use a spray bottle give there food about three squirts


Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: Purebreedcolt on December 06, 2011, 10:05:29 pm
Meat hit the jackpot found a processor and get it free.  Guys most processors just dump the bones etc from deer hogs elk etc and there is lots of meat left on them.


Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: Woodsnwetlands08 on December 06, 2011, 10:23:56 pm
Were can you get rice bran oil? And what does it do for the dogs? Is it just a filler?


Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: tomtom on December 07, 2011, 04:53:09 am
 What better to strech your feed than a big ol' boar hog???


Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: wranglercurs on December 07, 2011, 09:08:33 am
Were can you get rice bran oil? And what does it do for the dogs? Is it just a filler?

I got a gallion from t.s.c. I had a gyp that was lookin bad she would not eat every good. Id feed her first them come back and pour a little over the feed she left an she'd eat some more. I feed it to my bulldog it will put fat on a dog an make his hair slick.


Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: cantexduck on December 07, 2011, 12:12:22 pm
If you can't afford to feed your dogs the needed amount , cut down on them. Fillers do nothing for them.


Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: Reuben on December 07, 2011, 12:40:46 pm
I save all the bacon grease dripping and all the left over cooking oil from frying fish etc.etc and I keep a gallon sized coffee can next to the stove to  store this oil and I poor a tablespoon or two on the dog food...any left over meat or meat trimming go over the dog food and this cuts my feed bill some.

I also found the sportsmix $2.43 cheaper per fifty pound bag at the feed store back where I deer hunt...so I will save a little right there...


Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: ROCKIN ROO HOG DOGS on December 07, 2011, 12:53:58 pm
I am only feeding 4 dogs but still like to mix up the menu and they sure appreciate it,i feed shawnee mills 28/15 dry food. I get as many meat scraps and bones(there is a whole lot of meat and fat left on there) as i want from stubblefield meats 3 miles down the road,i have contact in the restaurant industry that gives me as many loaves of whit bread that goes out of date as i can handle and fisher feeds across the street has a chicken battery so i get as many cracked or defect eggs as i can fit it my fridge for free,i never have a problem with running out of dog food and the dogs look as good as they ever have.


Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: Jpepper on December 07, 2011, 01:07:29 pm
Meat hit the jackpot found a processor and get it free.  Guys most processors just dump the bones etc from deer hogs elk etc and there is lots of meat left on them.

This is what I do.


Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: pigrig on December 07, 2011, 02:00:17 pm
we are feeding 12 dogs and use all different feed solutions we buy a little, get ofcuts and mutton bones from local prosesors and shoot possums and rabbits not all of the dogs like pork


Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: bray on December 07, 2011, 02:22:07 pm
An old timer from here use 2 go 2 a rice dryer and shovel
Up all the left over rice and place n 5 gallon buckets &
Put water n there and let the rice swell up. He would feed 1
cup of dog food & 1 cup of rice. Them dogs would be fat
& healthy.


Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: YELLOWBLACKMASK on December 07, 2011, 02:48:23 pm
If you can't afford to feed your dogs the needed amount , cut down on them. Fillers do nothing for them.

Big difference on cannot feed and attempting to feed smarter price wise. 


Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: BIG CHRIS on December 07, 2011, 02:54:00 pm
If you can't afford to feed your dogs the needed amount , cut down on them. Fillers do nothing for them.

Big difference on cannot feed and attempting to feed smarter price wise. 

X2...


Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: treeingratterrier on December 07, 2011, 03:01:30 pm
Try to find used cooking oil from a fried chicken place, its high in fat and use one cup on top of dog food u usually feed, will fatten them up quick, gives some flavor and is free if they are not already selling it to a fat truck.


Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: redneckrob on December 07, 2011, 03:12:46 pm
yellow i put mine on diamond hi energy and poor corn oil on it wheat and rice are good fillers but they dont get much out of it plus a good ohg dog aint never fat


Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: cantexduck on December 07, 2011, 04:35:32 pm
How is mixing cheap feed with good feed smarter? Old grease has no nurturing effect at all. I feed nine dogs raw meat and bone. 120-130 a month. I get chicken for .59 a pound and beef for .25 a pound. I did leg work to find cheap prices,that is getting the most bang for your buck and not cutting corners.


Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: treeingratterrier on December 07, 2011, 06:27:22 pm
How is mixing cheap feed with good feed smarter? Old grease has no nurturing effect at all. I feed nine dogs raw meat and bone. 120-130 a month. I get chicken for .59 a pound and beef for .25 a pound. I did leg work to find cheap prices,that is getting the most bang for your buck and not cutting corners.
 

You are mistaken, grease(the kind to use for dogs) is made from animal fat, adding animal fat aka grease to dry dog increases the fat content, palablilty, and gives a flavor to the dry dog food that helps a dog digest the food.  You can turn cheap dog food into hi fat hi protein by using it, the post is about how to stretch dog food, the rendering trucks sell the grease to dog food companies as well as others, at one time one could buy a product called meat scraps from the feedstore, it was made from cooking bones and opal left over from butchering cows and run thru a hammermill, due to mad cow outbreak the rules changed due to the brains and spinal cords might enter another animals food chain, it was $15 a hundred for meat scraps, I am not sure if it is avaialble any more, that is used in name dog food as well as the cooking oil.  The cooking oil is not all animal based anymore so be sure u get the right kind, not sure what kind of vegestable oil is out there and its fat and protein percentage.



Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: Reuben on December 07, 2011, 07:04:05 pm
An old timer from here use 2 go 2 a rice dryer and shovel
Up all the left over rice and place n 5 gallon buckets &
Put water n there and let the rice swell up. He would feed 1
cup of dog food & 1 cup of rice. Them dogs would be fat
& healthy.

I wonder if it is the same guy I know...dogs look healthy but probably not healthy.


Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: firemedic on December 07, 2011, 08:51:45 pm
Feed a higher quality dog food.....it cost about twice as much per pound, but you feed less than half as much,....therefore saving money.....simple seems to me. Plus, your dogs are healthier, there's about half as much crap to clean up....works for me. ;D


Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: treeingratterrier on December 07, 2011, 09:23:46 pm
Feed a higher quality dog food.....it cost about twice as much per pound, but you feed less than half as much,....therefore saving money.....simple seems to me. Plus, your dogs are healthier, there's about half as much crap to clean up....works for me. ;D
 

Just curious what you are feeding??  I been buying Blue bag hi pro retreiver from Tsc and hitting it with powdered milk to boost it.


Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: YELLOWBLACKMASK on December 07, 2011, 10:02:55 pm
Feed a higher quality dog food.....it cost about twice as much per pound, but you feed less than half as much,....therefore saving money.....simple seems to me. Plus, your dogs are healthier, there's about half as much crap to clean up....works for me. ;D

The problem with this is I have had the same mind set in the past. But when you start doing side by side comparison on the mid to high grade feed. It seems to prove there is not enough bang for he buck as some might believe after the math is done.  I had another post asking for more feedback specifically on this topic awhile back. Would love to find this theory proven with the actual trials and math to back it up. I have done several side by side trials including waste reduction, cost per serving, and dog health with body weight maintainability. So far I have not found any high end feed ( Eukanuba, Purina Benafuls, Diamond Naturals, ect) that can be reduced by half the serving size to a mid grade (Diamond high energy, Sportmix ect) that will maintain and support a working dog the same. Not arguing with anyone but would truly like to see any successful brands that someone can throw up the numbers and actual trial data that proves this to be realistically cheaper.



Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: airduster29 on December 08, 2011, 01:27:55 pm
Feed a higher quality dog food.....it cost about twice as much per pound, but you feed less than half as much,....therefore saving money.....simple seems to me. Plus, your dogs are healthier, there's about half as much crap to clean up....works for me. ;D

yes x2 I do the same just takes a little time to see where the dogs balance out some of mine NEED more than others they all dont get the same amount and out here in the cold I always increase when it getts really cold
but I must admit I use to own a small meat processing plant and I feed the dogs the scraps and it is the best feed any grocery store that sells meat has to throw away when it is out dated may check with them also if u have the time to pick it up every day


Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: airduster29 on December 08, 2011, 01:35:03 pm
Feed a higher quality dog food.....it cost about twice as much per pound, but you feed less than half as much,....therefore saving money.....simple seems to me. Plus, your dogs are healthier, there's about half as much crap to clean up....works for me. ;D

The problem with this is I have had the same mind set in the past. But when you start doing side by side comparison on the mid to high grade feed. It seems to prove there is not enough bang for he buck as some might believe after the math is done.  I had another post asking for more feedback specifically on this topic awhile back. Would love to find this theory proven with the actual trials and math to back it up. I have done several side by side trials including waste reduction, cost per serving, and dog health with body weight maintainability. So far I have not found any high end feed ( Eukanuba, Purina Benafuls, Diamond Naturals, ect) that can be reduced by half the serving size to a mid grade (Diamond high energy, Sportmix ect) that will maintain and support a working dog the same. Not arguing with anyone but would truly like to see any successful brands that someone can throw up the numbers and actual trial data that proves this to be realistically cheaper.


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Yellow
I feed dog food from tractor supply and was feeding the lowest grade I buy a pallet at a time and it was lasting me exactly 2 months I switched to the highest grade and now it last me 3 months and dogs are still looking good its not a big differance in money savings but it is some
also I feed by what a dog looks like they may or may not get the same amount every time as long as they maintain and look good


Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: make-em-squeel on December 08, 2011, 02:19:47 pm
Deer scraps from processing plants! They eat bone bone marrow where the whole mineral matrix is (great for bred dogs, pups, arthritis etc) fat and meat. Without the organs its not enough to sustain them but defiantly helps you feed less and is free since they have to pay to have it hauled off.

I also use muscle up for horses its quality whole food ingredients and 40 bucks worth last forever, cheap olive oil is good fat as well....


Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: ked on December 08, 2011, 08:30:42 pm
I've been wondering about Ramen Noodles...


Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: Purebreedcolt on December 08, 2011, 08:50:04 pm
Ramen noodles has sustained many a poor college student party all night and go to class all day and work in between oh woops looking back at my college years lol. 


Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: rawhide on February 07, 2012, 09:45:25 pm
 I add meat scapes/bones,bread,eggs, and lard to dog food dogs look great and bag of dog food goes a long way


Title: Re: Stretching your dog feed.
Post by: Jam-Up Hog Doggin (Tuffone) on February 07, 2012, 11:01:45 pm
I dont know why but my dogs would never leave food in the bowls even if I got stupid and let them self feed. None of them weigh over 60lbs and I feed them at least 6 cups each of sportmix a day and give a little extra on hunting days. I use bacon greese ever so often and things like that but the never get full. I also squirt fish oil pills on their food to help with blood circulation with the joints and heart. (the VA sends them too me and I always have extra). I am going to have to go to our locker plant and see what they can do for me.

So you all feed raw meats? Have you ever had problems with that?