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Title: yes breeeding your own catch dogs is important!
Post by: Jmesonp1 on January 20, 2012, 08:39:03 pm
I like Pits for catching and my buddy has Abs(I have one also). I hear about alot of folks taking dogs from wherever to catch pigs. First we have to find the pigs which  of course takes the most skill, but when the fight is on do you really want to depend on a dog that found its way to the pound by god knows what or the "he just needs room to run dog". most of these dogs are looking for a new home because for one reason or another, they suck at life and the owner is not willing to do what is neccesary to contain the situation. Catch dogs are as important to the hunt as finding the pig. In my opinion you should breed for temperment and prey drive just as you would for a cur or hound.  We dont want killers or dog fighters in the sport and I for one want my bulldogs as trustworthy as any labador. Wich i did cull one for growling once! My family has had  pits since the fifties and we've never had behavior problems because we identify such traits early and cull accordingly. JMO and I'm entiteled to it. Sorry for rambling guys but Im sick of people kicking their worthless dogs out on my door step to fight with my GOOD DOGS.


Title: Re: yes breeeding your own catch dogs is important!
Post by: BA-IV on January 20, 2012, 09:03:44 pm
A good catch dog is as hard to find as a good cur dog now.  Raise and breed em just like you would your cur dogs and cull hard and you won't have to buy em off the dog trade. 


Title: Re: yes breeeding your own catch dogs is important!
Post by: reatj81 on January 20, 2012, 09:05:50 pm
A good catch dog is as hard to find as a good cur dog now.  Raise and breed em just like you would your cur dogs and cull hard and you won't have to buy em off the dog trade. 
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Title: Re: yes breeeding your own catch dogs is important!
Post by: Reuben on January 20, 2012, 09:24:31 pm
A good catch dog is as hard to find as a good cur dog now.  Raise and breed em just like you would your cur dogs and cull hard and you won't have to buy em off the dog trade. 
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x3...back in the 1980's most of the pound pits made catch dogs...last two have bought were culls...

back then they were not far removed from tested (pit) dogs...just like any other breed. if not tested in a few generations the courage can be bred out just like any other trait that is not tested and culled...


Title: Re: Re: yes breeeding your own catch dogs is important!
Post by: biseral on January 20, 2012, 10:50:32 pm
Some dogs are at the pound for a reason exactly right. but some can be hunted some people get curs/bulldogs and theyre just to much dog. my cat is a hunting dog he is not a house pet and wouldn't be suited for a backyard. I no for a fact a couple from his liter went to non hunting homes. So just because they sucked for those ppl doesn't necisarily mean theyre trash. Curs and bulldogs aren't for everyone im new to training them so I no what I'm saying these aren't labs or poodle and ppl dont get that. So would I rather raise my own or try pound? Haha I raise my own pups so far but I wouldnt count a dog out just cause hes at the pound. Would your lead strike dog be better as a indoor pet? Well jmo thanks


Title: Re: yes breeeding your own catch dogs is important!
Post by: djhogdogger on January 21, 2012, 09:22:24 am
I have nothing against dogs that have been bred to be catch dogs but two of the best cd's we have ever owned were dumped out near out house. Temperment, and catch and hold abilities included.   :)


Title: Re: yes breeeding your own catch dogs is important!
Post by: wranglercurs on January 21, 2012, 09:57:02 am
I agree with biseral. I raise my own curs. But Im not against pickin up a craig'slist cull every now an then.


Title: Re: yes breeeding your own catch dogs is important!
Post by: zachW on January 21, 2012, 10:02:04 am
U can find good catch dogs on craigslist and at the pound, and if the fights on, u had better had that dog I'n several controlled situations to make dang good and well he is going to make the team, be it pens or mock hunts u can tell what kinda dog u got.  I haven't had many catch dogs, but my best two that could hold their own with any dog were free give aways, one was a house dog, one is a half breed i know wasn't bred for any reason.  And a good friend of mine has a heck of a dog that was a stray my girlfriend found.  But i have seen alot of culls come from the pound that's just the facts, but there are good ones that u can get and give them a good home u know.


Title: Re: yes breeeding your own catch dogs is important!
Post by: zachW on January 21, 2012, 10:03:36 am
There's alot of abandoned bull dogs out there, i like the feeling u get when u get one that was just going to get put down and he makes a dog


Title: Re: yes breeeding your own catch dogs is important!
Post by: zachW on January 21, 2012, 10:20:27 am
I don't want to sound one sided though i think if u have a proven lime of bull dogs kudos, and if you have dogs of that high caliber its almost A responsibility to breed them to help balance out every dick Tom and harry that breed all right dogs, or just breed to breed to say they bred their own dogs.


Title: Re: yes breeeding your own catch dogs is important!
Post by: Reuben on January 21, 2012, 10:54:09 am
I am never going to breed bulldogs so I do appreciate a good breeder of catch dogs...it is nice to know that a high quality catch dog can be bought...

I craigslist quite a bit for different thing...the pitbull I have now comes from a craigslist ad... ;D


Title: Re: yes breeeding your own catch dogs is important!
Post by: HDMdogs on January 21, 2012, 12:06:26 pm
i agree to disagree, i believe if your breeding for bloodline purposes then yes you should breed your own dogs according to how you like them to work for you as the hunter, but as far as the temperment and the bonding goes i have a cd that was pound bound, and i got her and she works great for me! great with kids, guards the house, one of the hardest catching dogs ive seen before, i can tell her watch him when someone pulls up and shes all eyes until i say easy and just loves to please me in every way possible!


Title: Re: yes breeeding your own catch dogs is important!
Post by: dogboy42 on January 21, 2012, 12:25:54 pm
When it comes to bulldogs, most people don't know what they are getting into.  That cute pup hanging on your shoestring is pound bound when he eats a pair of the ole lady's pumps.  Or eats the sofa. Or eats the neighbor's cat. Or eats a German Shepard.   Well you get it. Correct bad behavior early when it comes to any bully. Lets work to keep good dogs off cl and out  of the pound.  Pet dogs belong in pet homes while working dogs belong in working homes. 


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Title: Re: yes breeeding your own catch dogs is important!
Post by: Reuben on January 21, 2012, 02:31:47 pm
When it comes to bulldogs, most people don't know what they are getting into.  That cute pup hanging on your shoestring is pound bound when he eats a pair of the ole lady's pumps.  Or eats the sofa. Or eats the neighbor's cat. Or eats a German Shepard.   Well you get it. Correct bad behavior early when it comes to any bully. Lets work to keep good dogs off cl and out  of the pound.  Pet dogs belong in pet homes while working dogs belong in working homes. 


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x2...I agree...


Title: Re: yes breeeding your own catch dogs is important!
Post by: make-em-squeel on January 23, 2012, 04:21:13 pm
Before I started breeding my own ab's and dogos I would get cd's that worked fine in the woods but were such a pain in the butt in other situations. If I were to get a cd off "the dog trade" I'd try to get a pet who's owner "had" to get rid of him to minimize the annoying things about a hard to kennell cd. I have honestly moved more cds for their annoying traits around the house than I have their lack of catching


Title: Re: yes breeeding your own catch dogs is important!
Post by: uglydog on January 23, 2012, 08:48:32 pm
I believe its easy to find a dog that will bite, or catch or grab a hog. I think its very difficult to fimd a dog to meet my standards of a catch dog. Therefore I do breed my own, or get dogs from people I know and have known for many years that have bred and raised their own. We work together to keep traits within the dogs we like and own. Not knockin what anybody else likes or uses, but I want what i want, and I am the one that has to depend on it and feed it. I expect to use the same dog for many years and expect to be able to get the job done with a single dog. I am spolied to what I want in a dog.


Title: Re: yes breeeding your own catch dogs is important!
Post by: make-em-squeel on January 23, 2012, 09:06:08 pm
I believe its easy to find a dog that will bite, or catch or grab a hog. I think its very difficult to fimd a dog to meet my standards of a catch dog. Therefore I do breed my own, or get dogs from people I know and have known for many years that have bred and raised their own. We work together to keep traits within the dogs we like and own. Not knockin what anybody else likes or uses, but I want what i want, and I am the one that has to depend on it and feed it. I expect to use the same dog for many years and expect to be able to get the job done with a single dog. I am spolied to what I want in a dog.

well said. I agree.