EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

Got a 4 year old bmc. My main strike dog. Just started opening when chasing a hog. Any suggestions on how to fix it or am I stuck?

Only opens after a hog breaks.

my brother had a gyp thats did that and never stop after she did it the first time

That's what I'm hearing.

how fit is your dog?

Very fit. Why do you ask?

Well if you're running her with other dogs, one of the other dogs may be getting ahead of her and she's doing it because she's falling behind.  A lot of cur dogs do this after a hog breaks, mine does, but it's not a bark, it's a whine.  As long as she's stopping the hogs I wouldn't worry about it.  I sure wouldn't try fixing it with a shock collar.

I figure a hog knows he's being chased anyway so what does it hurt.  But it will make it a lot easier to train younger dogs. 

That's the problem Haven't stopped a hog since. Struck about 10 in the last two hunts. Maybe I just got into some runners. She sure is a fine strike dog. I hope I can still gt them stopped. These hogs that I been in have had no pressure on em in years but I'll keep trying.

You sure its a hog ?

Yes sir. Positive.

Ok was just asking not trying to be a smart butt .  Mine do the same thing I dont even worry about it no more as long as they are not mouthing on track before finding one.  I say mine do it some do some dont.  Once the hog breaks and they can see it they will yip some dont really bother me much then soon as he is out of site they will shut up again.  I dont think it makes to much difference once they already found it and bayed it some and it breaks if it is gonna run its gonna run anyway know what i mean .

x-2  the hog allready knows the dogs are there . and other hogs in the area heard the bay so i don't see a problem with it .

Yeah thanks. I didn't take it as you bein a smarty. Lol

I don't care if they speak Spanish to the hogs as long as they stop em. Lol

well curdawgs if for some reason u need to cull her ill do it for you since your so fond of it. :D

Does she get quiet after a while if the race goes on for a ways?  Its pretty common for cur dogs to bark when a hog breaks then quiet down if they have to trail the hog again.  They might keep barkng if its a hot race and can see the hog.

Waylon

Ok some of you say that once a hog breaks you don't mind if a dog is open because the hog already knows the dogs are there but let me ask this if you had a crazy man intent on whooping you chasing you and you could hear him yelling behind you would you stop or if you could no longer hear him wouldn't you atleast slow down or stop to see if you could hear or see your chaser I don't know about you but if something is chasing me and i can hear it behind me Im not slowing down or stopping

If the hog has running on his mind, he's running.  I understand your point but I dont think it makes much difference.  Just make sure the dogs that you are hunting have enough bottom to stay with him through hell and back, he'll eventually bay up.

PEEWEE

Thats the ideal hog dog for sure.  But a man is gonna cull a lotta lotta good dogs trying to make his whole pack straight shut up silent . 

I myself will not cull a great find dog are a great bay dog just for doing that .

My pack is like that now if a dog is open in anyway he going down the road and i stop 90% of the hogs at the spot they struck or within 100 or 200 yards of the strike but i run 5 or 6 rough/gritty dogs on the ground with one sometimes two catch dogs

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i was catching plenty of hogs got a dog that barked on track a lil and didnt catch any pigs until he was gone out of my pack it does make a big diffrence  im with peewee on that one

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if u have an rcd on his nutts the hog cant run if u have an open dog behind him he will run

a dog trail barks for one of four reasons..frustration .excitement. breeding .or enviroment the way i read your post it has just started trail barking..frustration can be fitness the breeding cant be fixed enviroment can be from learning bad habits from another dog.?what has changed from when she was younger

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Yes Waylon she does quiet down after they get away from her. I do feel like she is really close to them in the race when she is barking. I'm definately going to cull her I'll make her a brood bitch if it ever got that bad. She is one fine find dog. Not a whole lot of bottom a mile or two for her is it. But she strikes hard.

Not sure if anything has changed as far as environment. I don't think so but I'm going to have to think on that.

Another thing she is just gritty enough to get in ones face and make one break but not gritty enough to catch and hold so she may be getting frustrated on big hogs. I was advised to get a muzzle by an old timer buddy of mine. Any muzzle suggestions?

I did hunt her with a gyp that barks on a hot trail and after a hog broke. But I only hunted them together for a few times and my main strike dog is so independent that she didnt stay w her much. Then I quit huntn em together for a lil while then my main dog started.

what pigrig said x3

I would cull one for breakin bays before I would for barking after one breaks. But thats just me.

x2...even if the dogs are silent, the hog probably can hear them coming over a 100 yards away if he is standing still and listening...

i still think people break more bays than dogs, wind, talking, catch dog getting smashed,  what ever if a dog runns silent and only opens when the hog breaks lets say 200 yrds or less why should that matter hell i have had hogs bay and break for hours with silent dogs " one ran for 6.5 miles on GPS last week and caught no babys for her to teach!" but then i caught many hogs with plotts. so if their runnin their runnin. but the man said barking on a busted bay not open   

disagree.
I've seen a rough yellow dog come back to a fella with a face full of blood, a nut in her mouth and her backside cut to ribbons.

Also seen a very good Catahoula nut dog fall out of a race face full of blood and stinking like the boar sat on his face. A hog that wants to run and has the ability to whoop a dog will do what he wants.

Two weeks ago I literally walked into a bay, unclipped my pit, saw her grab snout then the hog took off with her, ran her directly into a good salt cedar tree and she came detached with his nose still in mouth.

When they wanna run, they run.




I feel a dog can afford to be a bit yappy IF they burn up a track AND run for fur.

true but a dog got whole lot better chance of catching up to the hog and stopping it if the hog stops to listen well then again if what you say is true about a hog hearing a dog a 100 yrds off why wouldn't the hog start running when he hears the dogs coming the first time but i do agree your not gonna stop every hog that's just a fact of hog hunting but I don't want a dog running a hog for miles if my my dogs can't shut it down in about a half mile they come back to many hogs around to just chase one for hours well at least around here

sounds like you are running BMC's??? I have friends that hunt this style and that is what they use...

hog hunting is very challenging and that is for sure...

nope i don't run yellow duck dogs I use catahoulas  now the guys i hunt with like them yellow duck dogs lol nothing wrong with a yellow dog i just like my cats or cat with a little  hound or bulldog mixed in

Yeah it would have to be a Catahoula if it gives up after only 1/2 a mile...  >:D

Just Kidding!! Couldnt help myself!!  :D

lol chitahoulas.... i think if my dog strikes it, it better finish it, idc where it is. dont want no quit in it.

i have had an open dog and i caught tons of hogs with her alone, when they ar ready to bay theyll bay. dont rid yourself of a good find dog cause there a lil chirpin going on after the hog breaks. definitely agree with the guy who said cull for breakin bays if anything.

I think ppl cull too many good dogs because they will open after the hog is found and race is on.. It could just be the dog isn't a hog dog because we catch plenty and ours like to open on track alot! That being said at times I wish ours would shut up more but it is what is. As long as they deliver you pork they are doing right

finders are a dime a dozen a dog that can stop a pig well is a different story .animals learn survival skills to they hear your 4 wheeler coming and your trail barkin muts sure your going to catch some pigs but your helping to produce survivors; fast ones