EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

Ok guys and Gals in your opionion what is the perfect hog dog cross or pure breed post em if you got them

I like hound/bmc cross or full blood bmc

bmc and bmc x pit

Game bred pit x Elhew pointer

half ybmc and american bulldog and about 4 of em

bmc-plott & bmc-pit

what is an Elhew Pointer?

I have owned a bunch of pointers and several that were Elhew bred. The ones that I had that were bred close up were kind of crazy.

oh it is an Elhew Pointer, duuuUrrr.   I like the way German Short haired pointers point with their leg up.  I also like Tennessee Walking horses, but then I learned how some people equate those to negro and gay rodeo horses.  sorry if that was off topic.

I've been thinking about crossing American Staffordshire Terriers with German short haired pointers.

Hog Dog Mike could tell me more about the craziness you have experienced?

We bought two Elhews from this field trial judge. Mine was a female and looked like a million dollars. She would hunt for about 30 minutes and she was going back to the truck. I put a shock collar on her to stop it and all that did was make her run faster. Never broke her of it. Her brother was a little better but not tough like most English pointers.

I trained several for other people and experienced some of the similar things. One dog would be doing pretty good then she would get this stupid look on her face and come back in.

Worked several down on the King Ranch at a hunting camp and some were fine and some were just not tough like the Rebel bred dogs. It was so hot down there the GSPs didn't work that well. Out of over 100 dogs we had less than 10 setters and 0 GSPs. A Rebel bred field trial English pointer is a tough running dog.

Hogxcatcher!  ;D had too sorry! >:D

what kinds of dogs are these?

Rough catahoulas or half catahoula half American bulldog

Depends on what your looking for as far as range, grit,bottom,etc.  For me a long range yellow blackmouth cur is perfect with an junkyard pit ready to honor the bay;)  imo. 

my idea of a good cross is sevral breeds crossed but I have to explain each breed and what I hope to capture from each...

use a running walker coyote hound with lots of speed that runs to catch...

use a leggy and medium boned pitbull that is not hyper that catches hard and likes to hunt and uses its nose to wind and trail.

use the old type mtn cur that has a houndy look that has a lot of hunt, nose, and hunts about a 600 yard circle around the 4 wheeler. a dog that will hunt cold tracks but cuts and slashes looking for the hot tracks. a dog that can take the heat and stick to a track...

dogs to use for breeding should weigh around 60 pounds.

use these 3 breeds and have 3/4 mtn cur, 1/8 pitbull and 1/8 running walker...or...5/8 mtn cur, 1/4 running walker, and 1/8 pitbull...

I have been thinking of this cross for a while now... :)

3/4 /Cur Leopard-BMC either one are mixed 1/8 Plott and 1/8 Pit
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1/2 Cur Leopard-BMC either one are mixed 1/4 Plott and 1/4 Pit
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1/2 Cur Leopard-BMC either one are mixed 1/2 Plott
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Just straight up Cur  Leopard are BMC

and I myself like a straight Lacy a good one .

yella bob tail cow bred fl cur x yella bob tail cow bred fl cur  ;D ;D ;D

ChupacabraXBigfoot does it every time. Lol There is no one answer to this question. Find what you like and reproduce it.

Black n tan FL cur with about 1/8th gsp

Pit/Cat Cur/Pit, they got the bark and theve got the bite!

Cat/walker

all pure:
plott, ab, and dogo
Let the plotts start the track then throw in the second wave of dogos and finish up with an AB

 

A strain of bird dogs bred by one of the legends of bird dog hunting in south texas, he has since passed away, they were noted for endless bottom and hunting on the run large south texas quail ranches until they feet were destroyed, they have as much bottom as the best foxhound used to have.  But like anything else people ruin them and judge the whole line by one dog somebody claims was Elhew bred and had according to a trainer that it had to be shocked for coming in to check in???   They should make great hog dogs purebred or crossbred as they have not been ruined by popularly like some of the hot gotta have one dog breeds one sees bringing $1000 for a 6 week old pup in Livestock Weekly classifieds.  (blackmouth curs website i saw today on LW website??) 

3/4 plott (the right plott)1/4 cur 1/4 pitt

I like it... :)

Not tryin to be smart but if you had (the right plot) shouldn't need the 1/4 pit.

at one time the elhew line was a bad to the bone strain of English pointers that were always winning the hunts. The breeder of this line had some of the best...but how many generations removed from this mans kennel does it take for these dogs to regress...don't blame the name when in reality it is the folks who jumped on this line of dogs who really did not have the knowledge that the original breeder had about breeding better dogs and just as important...knowing bird dogs...

i agree,whas up hillbilly you trying to get some more stars ? ;D

you are right but I was thinking more jaw power and increase the chances of less barking on track...I don't mind a little open but not too much...

I aint no math matician but isnt that 1 and a 1/4??  ;D

ok.. you are a shade tree mathematician ;D :)

Lmao sorry it was supp to be 1/8 cur 1/8 pitt lololol

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glad someone caught it lol

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I do agree w you ,the hounds we breed to are very gritty but I like the pitt bc it makes them very closed mouth on trail some are dead silent ,that's the only reason for the pitt .also some of them do have a better bite ,bc of the pitt

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1/4 YBMC
1/4 YBMC
X
1/2 YBMC

If you must make a cross its the most dependable.   ;D

.25*.25*.50=.031% so whats the rest of the dog?

Sorry the X wasn't multiply it meant crossed to.

If you went off of the decimals you would have came up short and ultimately you would be left with a catahoula.  Lol :laugh:

enough already!!!  popo

no not a catahoula just a regular ybmc or slick haired duck dog  >:D

I'll second that :laugh: