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Title: Glass eyed cats
Post by: River Runners on February 09, 2012, 12:10:39 am
I have had a couple older hunters tell me that when a dog has a glass eye he/he cannot see out of that eye at night. With that being said I had a double glass eye male that was a hell of a dog to hunt behind at night.  Has anybody else heard of this or knows any for sure answer?


Title: Re: Glass eyed cats
Post by: KerDog77 on February 09, 2012, 01:23:17 am
I'm no pro, but I wouldn't call the dogs you mentioned blind at night, but definately been around a few that are very light sensitive. When it's pitched black out they are fine, but some seem to have trouble around lights in the dark. I'm sure there is documentation out there that can give a more medical description of the effects bright lights have on their pupil.


Title: Re: Glass eyed cats
Post by: M Bennet on February 09, 2012, 06:46:02 am
my cat is doubled glass eyyed and he see fine. you just dont breed to glass eyed dogs together.may come deff or blind


Title: Re: Glass eyed cats
Post by: hogaholicswife on February 09, 2012, 06:52:43 am
I had some puppies born once that were the opposite, they were blind as bats during the day but were fine at night.  Their pupils were enlarged and had a luminated /red tint to them.  These pups also had alot of white on their heads.


Title: Re: Glass eyed cats
Post by: SwampHunter on February 09, 2012, 07:32:27 am
Mine can see just fine day or night brightest blue eyes


Title: Re: Glass eyed cats
Post by: jimco on February 09, 2012, 08:20:21 am
Glass eyes in the Catahoula breed are strictly aesthetics. Glass eyes are the result of the merle gene at work, the same gene that creates coat colors. Glass eyes in a Catahoula will not make them see better or worse, run faster, or do anything different than non-glass eye
Catahoulas. Now with that being said , Too many people breed for color and glass eyes. You take the risk of producing pups with sight or hearing problems when you breed merle to merle or merle to double merle. Old timers that know will tell you that you got to breed the blacks to get the blues. In other words a solid (non merle) to a merle ( spotted leopard) . Plenty folks breed (myself included) two merle dogs (spotted or patchwork) but run the risk of having some pups in the litter that are mostly white are white faced and these pups will usually have hearing or sight issues.


Title: Re: Glass eyed cats
Post by: ED BARNES on February 09, 2012, 08:29:34 am
Glass eyes in the Catahoula breed are strictly aesthetics. Glass eyes are the result of the merle gene at work, the same gene that creates coat colors. Glass eyes in a Catahoula will not make them see better or worse, run faster, or do anything different than non-glass eye
Catahoulas. Now with that being said , Too many people breed for color and glass eyes. You take the risk of producing pups with sight or hearing problems when you breed merle to merle or merle to double merle. Old timers that know will tell you that you got to breed the blacks to get the blues. In other words a solid (non merle) to a merle ( spotted leopard) . Plenty folks breed (myself included) two merle dogs (spotted or patchwork) but run the risk of having some pups in the litter that are mostly white are white faced and these pups will usually have hearing or sight issues.
X2!!! I BITE MY TONGUE ON HERE QUITE A BIT, I SEE WAY TOO MANY CATS WITH WAY TOO MUCH WHITE AND WHITE ON THE HEAD.


Title: Re: Glass eyed cats
Post by: hogdog9 on February 09, 2012, 08:55:58 am
I have an older cat that WAS double glassed until a hog got the best of one of his eyes. He never had any problem at night and thats mainly the only time i get to hunt cuz i work all day/everyday. Hes 10 yrs old and still going at them with only one glass eye now


Title: Re: Glass eyed cats
Post by: moffittcatahoulas on February 09, 2012, 11:06:13 am
Glass eyes in the Catahoula breed are strictly aesthetics. Glass eyes are the result of the merle gene at work, the same gene that creates coat colors. Glass eyes in a Catahoula will not make them see better or worse, run faster, or do anything different than non-glass eye
Catahoulas. Now with that being said , Too many people breed for color and glass eyes. You take the risk of producing pups with sight or hearing problems when you breed merle to merle or merle to double merle. Old timers that know will tell you that you got to breed the blacks to get the blues. In other words a solid (non merle) to a merle ( spotted leopard) . Plenty folks breed (myself included) two merle dogs (spotted or patchwork) but run the risk of having some pups in the litter that are mostly white are white faced and these pups will usually have hearing or sight issues.
X2!!! I BITE MY TONGUE ON HERE QUITE A BIT, I SEE WAY TOO MANY CATS WITH WAY TOO MUCH WHITE AND WHITE ON THE HEAD.




X3


Title: Re: Glass eyed cats
Post by: Hog_Hunter_57 on February 09, 2012, 01:18:43 pm
There are also white catahoulas that are not double mearl or single mearled dog i have one from johnny wager and ( he breeds this line with no def or blind pups) snoopy that is my dogs name now he is starting to show black spots on his body but for the most part he is solid white his daddy is solid white no black on his body and he (snoopy) came from a white daddy and a solid black momma.


Title: Re: Glass eyed cats
Post by: jimco on February 09, 2012, 02:03:45 pm
There are also white catahoulas that are not double mearl or single mearled dog i have one from johnny wager and ( he breeds this line with no def or blind pups) snoopy that is my dogs name now he is starting to show black spots on his body but for the most part he is solid white his daddy is solid white no black on his body and he (snoopy) came from a white daddy and a solid black momma.

                 If Snoopy came from a white daddy, the daddy was double merle. If Snoopy came from a solid black momma, the momma was
                 non merle. This breeding should produce single merle pups with no issues.


Title: Re: Glass eyed cats
Post by: halfbreed on February 09, 2012, 02:43:04 pm
unless the daddy it what is called a blind merl, in wich the merl geen does not show it's self .


Title: Re: Glass eyed cats
Post by: jimco on February 09, 2012, 03:32:11 pm
A blind merle or as some call them ghost merles  is a mostly solid or all solid color Catahoula such as a solid black or mostly black or a slolid red or mostly red that is believed to be non merle but actually carries the merle gene, hence the term Ghost merle. The dog in the pic is an example of a
Ghost merle. We bred him to a blue leopard merle. Being that he was a ghost merle and the gyp was a merle one of the pups was born with a solid white face and sight and hearing issues. You can breed a double merle, which is a mostly white or excessive white with or without hearing or sight issues to a solid color non merle, and if he or she IS truly a non merle , ther should be no double merle pups,all
pups will be single merle. Again here is a pic of a ghost merle.(http://)(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/eelcat1/tuff_04.jpg)


Title: Re: Glass eyed cats
Post by: CHRIS+PAULA on February 09, 2012, 04:39:49 pm
i was told the glass eyes came from wolf somewhere in the blood line. Is that true.


Title: Re: Glass eyed cats
Post by: ED BARNES on February 09, 2012, 04:42:30 pm
NO


Title: Re: Glass eyed cats
Post by: halfbreed on February 09, 2012, 06:53:40 pm
 no it's caused by the piebald gean just like paint horses . some of them have glass eyes and there ain't no wolf in them


Title: Re: Glass eyed cats
Post by: PKT on February 09, 2012, 08:54:46 pm
Breed them yellar dogs and you wont have to worry about all them carnival colors---you will be to busy tieing hogs! :o


Title: Re: Glass eyed cats
Post by: jimco on February 09, 2012, 09:21:29 pm
Naw, I'll stick with them spotted up dogs. Just trying to share info on the genes that are responsible for the coat and eye colors.