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HOG & DOGS => HOG DOGS => Topic started by: Dirtydog on February 17, 2012, 12:41:41 pm



Title: dogo standards ?
Post by: Dirtydog on February 17, 2012, 12:41:41 pm
Can some one point me in the right direction for dogo breed standards ? Color/size/ect.


Title: Re: dogo standards ?
Post by: James Ket on February 17, 2012, 02:14:49 pm
http://dogousa.org/DACA/breed_standard.htm

This is the link to DACA which follows the original breed standard.


Title: Re: dogo standards ?
Post by: Dirtydog on February 17, 2012, 03:26:50 pm
Thank you ! have been seen a lot of spotted ones lately and just wanted to confirm that I was correct that they should all be white... Well up to 10% on one eye is exceptable... Is what I translate. I guess with such a high price tag people are unlikely to cull as necessary...


Title: Re: dogo standards ?
Post by: Silverton Boar Dogs on February 17, 2012, 03:47:14 pm
There is no reason to cull a Dogo with an eye patch. I would much rather have a patch then not enough pigmentation.


Title: Re: dogo standards ?
Post by: James Ket on February 17, 2012, 05:05:45 pm
They are to be all white and an eye patch is acceptable but as Paul noted there is a difference between pigmentation in the skin and black hair. I realize my dog has heavy skin pigmentation but he has no black hair. I would prefer less but at the same time pigmentation I believe helps with less chances of having skin issues.


Title: Re: dogo standards ?
Post by: Sneaky Creek Kennel on February 18, 2012, 06:14:11 am
The Dogo that I have has a black spot on his tail.


Title: Re: dogo standards ?
Post by: Dirtydog on February 20, 2012, 10:22:18 am
There is no reason to cull a Dogo with an eye patch. I would much rather have a patch then not enough pigmentation.

I understand as well some people desire the "pirate" patch... My issue is some dogs I have seen recently look like dalmations ! Should they not be culled according to standard ?


Title: Re: dogo standards ?
Post by: hoghunterdfw on February 20, 2012, 11:25:01 am
Like james mentioned earlier there is a huge difference in if the spots are on its skin or if it is actual black fur/hair.  A lot of dogos do have skin spots that may make them look dalmation like at times but the key is to see if the hair itself is black or just the skin. We had a female who used to be all white looking but after she had pups, the skin spots look more prominent now.


Title: Re: dogo standards ?
Post by: TColt on February 21, 2012, 12:55:00 pm
My male has a ton of pigment, but the hair is white. He does look like a Dalmatian (especially when he is wet) but it's just his skin showing through the hair. A general rule with the Dogos, the more pigmented skin, the less health problems, ie hearing and skin.

I could personally care less if someone bread a Dogo with black patches in its hair as long as the SOB would hunt. Too many people in the Dogo world care more about look than hunt. What they seem to forget is that according to the breed standard, the dog should hunt and catch no matter what. But then they breed dogs that only follow the looks part of the standard without seeing if the dog can handle the working part of the standard. That is why there are so many culls in the Dogo world running around. Along with them being such a young breed, it makes it easier to breed the hunt out of them.

If it was my way, people wouldn't be able to register their Dogos unless they proved them on hogs first. This would solve a lot of problems and get people who are bad for the breed (as a working dog) out of the breed. This needed to happen before AKC took over the registry though. Maybe one day the DACA will do this so that, as the breed becomes more popular, at least hunters will know what registry to go through to get pups.


Title: Re: dogo standards ?
Post by: James Ket on February 21, 2012, 05:02:14 pm
Great points Taylor.  They need to hunt first and foremost.  It comes down to function then form or form then function.  Obviously as hunters, we view it as function then form.  There are some guys that really ensure both.  I know of a few. 


Title: Re: dogo standards ?
Post by: Melonhead on February 21, 2012, 05:29:30 pm
If they culled the way they should, they would loose money on almost every litter, because of all the bullnumber 2 that is part of the breed, baer test, type of food because of allergies, pigmentation ( noone wants a spotted dogo), ear crop ( part of the original standard ), etc.
Makes more sense to stay in people's hands that are going to use the dogs, like friends who hunt - $200 a pup covers almost everything and cull accordingly except ear crop. But the price on that can be cut down if people use certain vets.
Problem is, no one does that. If only hunters had the dogo - kept with the standard and culled hard, the dogo would be what and where it should be.
 


Title: Re: dogo standards ?
Post by: James Ket on February 21, 2012, 07:56:53 pm
You are very right Rick. 


Title: Re: dogo standards ?
Post by: Melonhead on February 22, 2012, 06:04:33 am
A group of hunters should get together and start a real breeding program - noone has enough money or space to really breed the way the dogo needs to be bred. Share expenisis or work together, only breeding stable, hunting dogs.  And stay within the standard.
Also start feeding cheaper foods with corn and everything else that causes them to have skin issues, only dogs with little to no allergies be bred, and slowly bust through the problems with this breed to make it better then it already is.
But that is too much work for some, and when dog people work together - there is always drama.
Some are working together, and are having great results. Seems like too many just see green when they look at this white dog


Title: Re: dogo standards ?
Post by: Dirtydog on February 22, 2012, 02:36:52 pm
I hope to do my part..


Title: Re: dogo standards ?
Post by: TColt on February 29, 2012, 05:57:02 pm
Myself as well, there are a few people out there for the working side of the breed, more and more as this pastime becomes more popular.