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HOG & DOGS => HOG DOGS => Topic started by: tomtom on February 19, 2012, 08:21:45 pm



Title: Daddy x Daughter vs Brother x Sister
Post by: tomtom on February 19, 2012, 08:21:45 pm
 These are supposed to be the same thing. Inbreeding. So why the concern about breeding Brother to Sister but the promotion of Daddy to Daughter? I need an answer.


Title: Re: Daddy x Daughter vs Brother x Sister
Post by: Reuben on February 19, 2012, 08:25:21 pm
I think brother/sister will tell you quick as to good and bad genes...eliminate the bad and keep the best...probably one of the fastest ways to clean up the gene pool...or...one of the fastest ways to a dead end.


Title: Re: Daddy x Daughter vs Brother x Sister
Post by: coach on February 19, 2012, 11:01:28 pm
When breeding brother to sister it is the same parents being top and bottom to both brother and sister.  With the breeding of Daddy to Daughter you have 50% of the breeding that may not be related depending on the breeding lines.


Title: Re: Daddy x Daughter vs Brother x Sister
Post by: TexasHogDogs on February 19, 2012, 11:15:02 pm
Its inbreeding but it is not the same thing.  Brother sister there is no outs same gene pool back to each other.  Daddy x Daugther 3/4 gene pool then you have the out on the mothers side 1/4.  That 1/4 out is the difference .
 
Bro x Sister is noting to mess with unless you know what you are doing and then its still tuff ,


Title: Re: Daddy x Daughter vs Brother x Sister
Post by: halfbreed on February 19, 2012, 11:23:10 pm
we would breed our game fowl brother to sister when we wanted to bring to the surface any bad traits we had in our fowl . dogs no differant by breeding siblings together you will find out just what you got in your dogs good and bad . and if you are lucky the good will outway tha bad . but you have to remember you are amplifying the traits and a bad trait well is just that bad . and you have to re-evaluate your breeding program and adjust accordingly . parent offspring is in humans [incest] in animals it's linebreeding . going back and installing more of the good traits from one parent or another into the offspring I. E. nose color ect. . i would only recomend a bro sis breeding when i thought my years of linebreeding got me the results i wanted in a paticular line . and then i would let it show me whats is still lurking around in the geen pool as far as traits i didn't want .


Title: Re: Daddy x Daughter vs Brother x Sister
Post by: Reuben on February 20, 2012, 11:40:36 am
if the sire and dam are already related thru line breeding I would think twice before breeding brother and sister. but if there are not many relatives it could be a good deal...I would only do it if both looked and hunted right...


Title: Re: Daddy x Daughter vs Brother x Sister
Post by: tomtom on February 20, 2012, 06:20:30 pm
 Thanks. My Blue Bell dog is truly one of a kind. I didn't know this until after I got her. Just researching options. I'm not a breeder. Whelped a few litters of foxhounds as a kid, but never had any input to matings.