EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

I was curious as to c if anyone might know how many acres would it take if a guy wanted to fenced in a place that you could enter a couple of bay dogs to find catch and tie for competitions and not get into trouble let's here what ya'll have on this

i had a baypen. if you do something like that they will be all over you. but if you some like that out in woods with no pen. maybe. it's the pen thing. oh how would you judge it. ???

Most competitions do not allow you to enter any hogs that have been caught out of a pen. In the hog hunting contest section you can find the rules to some of the competitions. Most of them say hogs cannot be caught out of a game proof fence...

think you missed the point hogdoggin

You can bay all you want but a dog can't catch in a pen. What is a pen? That would be up to a judge if they decide to arrest you.

 ??? So what is he asking?

Sorry, I guess I misread it, but you still can't catch in a "pen".

What would be the difference in a 10 acre pen and a 1000 acre pen?

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§ 13A-12-6. Hog and canine fighting.

(a) As used in this section, the term “hog” shall mean a pig, swine, or boar.

(b) The crime of hog and canine fighting occurs when a person organizes or conducts any commercial or private event, commonly referred to as a “catch,” wherein there is a display of combat or fighting between one or more domestic or feral canines and feral or domestic hogs and in which it is intended or reasonably foreseeable that the canines or hogs would be injured, maimed, mutilated, or killed.

(c) The crime of hog and canine fighting occurs when a person intentionally does any of the following for the purpose of organizing, conducting, or financially or materially supporting any event as provided in subsection (b):

(1) Finance, commercially advertise, sell admission tickets, or employ persons.

(2) Own, manage, or operate any facility or property.

(3) Supply, breed, train, or keep canines or hogs.

(4) Knowingly purchase tickets of admission.

(d) This section shall not apply to the lawful hunting of hogs with canines or the use of canines for the management, farming, or herding of hogs which are livestock or the private training of canines for the purposes enumerated in this subsection provided that such training is conducted in the field and is not in violation of this section.

(e) A violation of this section is a Class A misdemeanor upon conviction for a first offense. A second or subsequent violation is a Class C felony. After a first violation, a judge shall inform the defendant of the enhanced penalty upon a second or subsequent violation.




This is the only thing I could find. It is from Alabama, not Texas. The law may be stated different in Texas.

Basically, from what I read, what makes it illegal is exchanging $$$ and doing it for entertainment.

thx for input guys I'm thinking of going a different route for training of strike dogs I need to find bout10-20 acres to lease or buy for such training

I can put a hog in10 acre pen and train  dog to find hogs

The pen law is not really in Texas yet. It is in Louisianna and other states. If you start using catch dogs in a pen and posting videos it will not take long. But if you advertise it you will be asking for problems. Stick to baying and you have no problem. On this public forum I would say never train a catch dog in a pen. Do what you need to ensure your dog does not get in trouble in the woods.

I'm leaving the catch dog out just to train strike dog prospects and exercise no catching allowed

Then you have no problems anywhere ;D

Lol to much controversy I want something other than just a bay pen once a month

sorry bro, I was laid up after surgery on Monday, pretty much doped up, and incoherent so i havent been on in a couple of days.  I was under the impression he was looking to build one for his personal use, and not to be running for public entertainment.  obviously, I missed the point.  my bad.

 I was just thinking after I get done working i wanted to do something like this for fun