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Title: Preventing Puppy Parvo ?
Post by: BOSS HOGG on April 09, 2012, 11:54:40 pm
Keeping Pups in my kennels that are on a concrete slab gets messy real quick, so im wanting to move them to a 25x30 kennel which is on the ground. my question is what (if anything) could u put on your grass/ground to prevent puppies from getting parvo? My yard has a history of killing pups do to parvo and I'm curious to see if there's any type of remedy to wipe it out. Thanks


Title: Re: Preventing Puppy Parvo ?
Post by: djhogdogger on April 10, 2012, 06:59:37 am
 Ive never tried it myself, but Ive always heard to spray the area heavily with bleach.


Title: Re: Preventing Puppy Parvo ?
Post by: BOSS HOGG on April 10, 2012, 07:15:00 am
Ive never tried it myself, but Ive always heard to spray the area heavily with bleach.
yeah someone else told me that too, maybe thats what I'll have too try.. Thanks.


Title: Re: Preventing Puppy Parvo ?
Post by: hogaholicswife on April 10, 2012, 07:34:51 am
I have seen some kennel sprays that are supposed to kill it and I have heard bleach as well but if it is in the ground I don't understand (or believe) you could saturate the grass enough to penetrate the dirt really well.

Do you have parvo on that part of the yard?


Title: Re: Preventing Puppy Parvo ?
Post by: Bryant on April 10, 2012, 07:38:28 am
Best thing is to be extremely diligent about vaccinations (on both the bitch and the puppies).  People think as long as the puppies are nursing they are protected which is false information.  Puppies receive one dose of immunization from the bitch which comes in the form of the mothers colostrum (milk she produces initially after birth).  If the bitch wasn't vaccinated properly prior to whelping, the pups won't receive much in the way of resistance.


Title: Re: Preventing Puppy Parvo ?
Post by: BOSS HOGG on April 10, 2012, 07:44:13 am
I have seen some kennel sprays that are supposed to kill it and I have heard bleach as well but if it is in the ground I don't understand (or believe) you could saturate the grass enough to penetrate the dirt really well.

Do you have parvo on that part of the yard?
I've only had this kennel setup in this location for about a year & this is my first set of pups to attempt to raise on them...  I'm gonna call my Vet too But I usually ask ETHD first, lol....


Title: Re: Preventing Puppy Parvo ?
Post by: JUG on April 10, 2012, 08:23:43 am
Keeping Pups in my kennels that are on a concrete slab gets messy real quick, so im wanting to move them to a 25x30 kennel which is on the ground. my question is what (if anything) could u put on your grass/ground to prevent puppies from getting parvo? My yard has a history of killing pups do to parvo and I'm curious to see if there's any type of remedy to wipe it out. Thanks

IMO
i raise all my pups on the ground . i also keep the mother with them until their first shot . worming them every 2 weeks from birth with Nimex.. i hit the mother good with wormer and heart worm before breeding too .. never had a problem until this year .. the only difference was the gyp stayed on her chain in the yard with the other dogs , i usally keep the gyp on a chain in the back the house .. keeps her stress down i find ..


but this year i saved one off a litter of 8 due to a new strain of parvo "from what my ole man said" hits the real early and you see no side effectes to catch it in time . one day the pups are all fat , hydrated & health , the next day they dropping off like flies !

if i was you , knowing you've had parvo in the yard already i wouldn't put'em down until you give them their first set of shots .. and once you do , keep it clean ..


Title: Re: Preventing Puppy Parvo ?
Post by: charles on April 10, 2012, 01:16:48 pm
 bosshog, if you have access to a pto driven tiller for a tractor, till the ground up and spary it with bleach and then till it agian. the virus cant survive the bleach or direct sunlight. by tilling it up you bring the virus to the top, then spraying the fresh tilled soil will kill the virus and then till the dirt again and let it get exposed to sunlight and may even spray the ground again with bleach. iv talked to several vets that sunlight kills it and same with bleach.


Title: Re: Preventing Puppy Parvo ?
Post by: MrsLouisianaHogDog on April 10, 2012, 01:21:38 pm
Bleach.....and a solution called Parvo-lan which you can get from the feed store!  And be prompt with their vaccines.


Title: Re: Preventing Puppy Parvo ?
Post by: cantexduck on April 10, 2012, 02:35:02 pm
If the litter means anything, build a raised wood kennel. 200-300 is  cheap price to pay to protect the pups.


Title: Re: Preventing Puppy Parvo ?
Post by: Dexter on April 10, 2012, 03:11:46 pm
Bleach the area with  at least 10-1 solution of bleach  a few times then coat the area with diatomatous earth (check spelling) 
 Shots  the mother before shes bred andor shortly after
 pups shot we been using the vanguard plus from the vet and repeat  5-6 weeks then  8 weeks and 11 weeks  the shot should be      givin in 3 week intervals   
 stay to this religeously dont buy into  wait till they are 7-8 weeks old 

 we had parvo a few years back and stick to this routine  and have had not problems
 I pray that the drought and heat burnt the scurge from the ground

this is the reason puppies wont leave here til 12 weeks of age  they have had all the puppy shots other than rabies
 Dexter


Title: Re: Preventing Puppy Parvo ?
Post by: charles on April 10, 2012, 04:04:44 pm
Bleach the area with  at least 10-1 solution of bleach  a few times then coat the area with diatomatous earth (check spelling) 
 Shots  the mother before shes bred andor shortly after
 pups shot we been using the vanguard plus from the vet and repeat  5-6 weeks then  8 weeks and 11 weeks  the shot should be      givin in 3 week intervals   
 stay to this religeously dont buy into  wait till they are 7-8 weeks old 

 we had parvo a few years back and stick to this routine  and have had not problems
 I pray that the drought and heat burnt the scurge from the ground

this is the reason puppies wont leave here til 12 weeks of age  they have had all the puppy shots other than rabies
 Dexter

good routine dexter


Title: Re: Preventing Puppy Parvo ?
Post by: uglydog on April 10, 2012, 04:30:45 pm
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If the litter means anything, build a raised wood kennel. 200-300 is  cheap price to pay to protect the pups.

Keeping them off the ground is the most important thing to keep them safe from parvo. If you have them on concrete why would you want to move them to dirt?



Title: Re: Preventing Puppy Parvo ?
Post by: BOSS HOGG on April 10, 2012, 04:41:28 pm
Keeping Pups in my kennels that are on a concrete slab gets messy real quick, so im wanting to move them to a 25x30 kennel which is on the ground.
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Keeping them off the ground is the most important thing to keep them safe from parvo. If you have them on concrete why would you want to move them to dirt?




Title: Re: Preventing Puppy Parvo ?
Post by: uglydog on April 10, 2012, 04:53:00 pm
My concrete kennels are pretty big, and at 5 weeks and up its a real pain in the rear-end to keep clean, three times a day. That concrete is how I am able to view every pile of POOP. Thats when I know puppies are "Off" first signs of sickness shows in loose stool.  I NEED CONCRETE.

I take my puppy raising real serious but I only do once maybe twice a year, because its such a pain. However if they are in the dirt you wont know when you got mucos, or little blood in the stool, and thats super important to know IMO


Title: Re: Preventing Puppy Parvo ?
Post by: Tfrancis on April 11, 2012, 08:39:30 pm
Uglydog at what age do you start putting pups on the ground is there an age that it is less likely 2 get it  thanks bosshog  4 topic great info


Title: Re: Preventing Puppy Parvo ?
Post by: Dexter on April 12, 2012, 10:28:38 pm
Heres one of our above ground puppy/chick pens I thought i had some better picture ,, o well here what we use hope you can make heads or tails of it  ,

The box is 4 x 4 and the pen is 4 x 4 total length 12 feet  2 inch x 4 inch red top no climb fencing over the pen
 its all base on a 2 foot radius

Dexter

(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt51/skiparope/AceandRebapups2242012pics422012032.jpg)

(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt51/skiparope/AceandRebapups2242012pics422012034.jpg)


Title: Re: Preventing Puppy Parvo ?
Post by: arrowbar on April 12, 2012, 11:32:40 pm
we till the ground between every litter, however I have switched to above ground. I am just going to plant grass everywhere else. I figure this will save time and money, and puppy lives by just switching to a sterile above ground system.


Title: Re: Preventing Puppy Parvo ?
Post by: tnhillbilly on April 12, 2012, 11:52:15 pm
All of my pups are raised in above ground kennels. I always feed the pups first as not to carry any contamination  from the older dogs to pups. Also clean water and pens are a must.


Title: Re: Preventing Puppy Parvo ?
Post by: arrowbar on April 13, 2012, 12:05:36 am
you can better sterilize above ground kennels, thats the reason we switched.


Title: Re: Preventing Puppy Parvo ?
Post by: HORJUA on April 13, 2012, 08:20:16 am
i keep mine off the ground for 4 months befor they touch the ground, i have had no problems with loosing pups. and i do give the there shots.


Title: Re: Preventing Puppy Parvo ?
Post by: Tfrancis on April 13, 2012, 10:48:00 am
i keep mine off the ground for 4 months befor they touch the ground, i have had no problems with loosing pups. and i do give the there shots.

Thank you for the info mine is gettin about that old and did not wanna take any chances


Title: Re: Preventing Puppy Parvo ?
Post by: hogaholicswife on April 13, 2012, 11:01:01 am
i keep mine off the ground for 4 months befor they touch the ground, i have had no problems with loosing pups. and i do give the there shots.

Thank you for the info mine is gettin about that old and did not wanna take any chances

That is what I do as well and is why I asked early on about whether it was in the ground.

The shots are a preventative, it doesn't mean they cannot get it.  Working from my own experiences if you give one a shot and then turn him loose on infected ground the chances of him getting it are much higher / almost a death warrant.


I keep our puppies up until they are a minimum of 5 months, I haven't given a parvo shot in almost two years but rather let them build their own immunities from us going in / out of their pens and interacting with other dogs and have not had a problem since.

In the past I would give them their shots and still wait until they were 5 months old before turning them out and had the same results.  The only time I have lost a pup (even those that were vaccinated regularly) was when I misjudged their ages and turned them out way too soon.

A friend of ours is religious with his shots and only gives them in the afternoons before dark, my husband was talking to him last night and every puppy on his yard has came down with parvo in the last few days so it just goes to show that because you vaccinate them doesn't mean they cannot catch it.

Puppies in pens are a pain in the butt to take care of but it is the only sure way to keep them safe until they can built their own immunitites.