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Title: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Koa96727 on May 15, 2012, 05:08:43 am
just seeing how manny feed raw if so. how much and what


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Reuben on May 15, 2012, 05:12:52 am
I supplement a little with raw meat...but mostly as a treat and a raw bone usually comes with it to clean and excercise the jaw muscles and gums...but 100% raw or even cooked meat probably is not a balanced diet for a dog.


Title: Re: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: okboarhunter on May 15, 2012, 05:47:37 am
I have fed raw deer but mostly try to boil meats to kill any parasites

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Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: cantexduck on May 15, 2012, 06:40:37 am
Freeze any wild meat for 48 hours. I have fed raw chicken quarters for years. I also feed chicken hearts ,beef fat,fish and beef liver a few times a month. I feed 11-12 pounds a day to 11 dogs and one cat. Three dogs are house dogs. I will put their nutrition level up against any others. 75% less poop. Little to no smell. You can't beat it. I am paying .59 per pound for my chicken. 20% of adult weight in meat is a good starting point. Raw chicken bones are fine for them to eat. Do not cook or boil the meat,raw means raw. The only down side is that I have to have a fridge in my shed just to use for dog food. Also you get some looks at Walmart when you walk out with 200 pounds of chicken in the cart. Pm me your number if you want some more info. I wash out my concrete kennels one time a week. Mainly to wash the pee out. Try that feeding dry food.


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Koa96727 on May 16, 2012, 02:04:32 am
I just wanted 2 see wut other people do and feed because I just started geting  about 2  5 gal buckets. of  raw beef a week


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: justincorbell on May 16, 2012, 05:23:05 am
Freeze any wild meat for 48 hours. I have fed raw chicken quarters for years. I also feed chicken hearts ,beef fat,fish and beef liver a few times a month. I feed 11-12 pounds a day to 11 dogs and one cat. Three dogs are house dogs. I will put their nutrition level up against any others. 75% less poop. Little to no smell. You can't beat it. I am paying .59 per pound for my chicken. 20% of adult weight in meat is a good starting point. Raw chicken bones are fine for them to eat. Do not cook or boil the meat,raw means raw. The only down side is that I have to have a fridge in my shed just to use for dog food. Also you get some looks at Walmart when you walk out with 200 pounds of chicken in the cart. Pm me your number if you want some more info. I wash out my concrete kennels one time a week. Mainly to wash the pee out. Try that feeding dry food.

U are seriously makin me consider this.

I have 8 adults, how long does 200lbs last you with 11 and a cat??


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Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: StabbinPigs on May 16, 2012, 11:52:47 am
I do 16 dogsThats alot of dog food


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: pigrig on May 16, 2012, 12:03:56 pm
yes i feed raw  meet al the time  either freez it or cook it first ;this will kill any thing like sheep measels ect just watch out feeding alot of lean type meets eg ;venison or goat for example as this has a very low fat content .good luck


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Treezbulldogz on March 26, 2014, 10:56:37 am
I disagree with the above comment about cooking the meat first, that is a big no no if there are any bones in there. And even if there are no bones, why cook it? It's better for the dogs RAW. I feed a prey model diet to my dogs and have for about 8 months now. I saw a drastic difference in the way my dogs looked and acted. So many benefits it would take me paragraphs to list them all but I recently acquired a 13 month old dog and her teeth looked awful. She looked as if she had been fed huge piles of shyt her whole life, literally. After eating my RAW diet that I feed the dogs for just one week, her teeth was shining like brand new pearls, I kid you not. Wish I would have took a picture of her teeth when I got her so I could show before and after pictures but I had no clue her teeth would come clean like they have. Not only have I saw a big improvement in her teeth but she looks ALOT better also IMO. I don't ever see myself not feeding a RAW diet, no matter how many dogs I feed.


When she got here on kibble...

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r589/TreezBulldogz/DSCN1833_zpsa2db96ca.jpg) (http://s1173.photobucket.com/user/TreezBulldogz/media/DSCN1833_zpsa2db96ca.jpg.html)

20 days later on RAW and regular exercise...

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r589/TreezBulldogz/DSCN2043_zps8df9a06a.jpg) (http://s1173.photobucket.com/user/TreezBulldogz/media/DSCN2043_zps8df9a06a.jpg.html)


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Lacy man on March 26, 2014, 11:07:53 am
Looks pretty much the dame from the picture?


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Lacy man on March 26, 2014, 11:08:05 am
Same* sorry


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: hogmantx1979 on March 26, 2014, 11:11:14 am
Same just different angle


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Treezbulldogz on March 26, 2014, 11:34:49 am
I can respect someones opinion, although I strongly disagree. I'm not here to bash kibble feeders by no means, I used to feed it. But if you can't see a healthier dog in the few examples I have posted then we just don't agree on what a healthy dog looks like. There's also dramatic differences I've noticed like skin issues, hair shedding, size/smell/consistency of dog waste, higher energy levels, etc... so it's not just one benefit that I've noticed, it's been multiple benefits. It obviously isn't for everybody, it does take more prep time. But you"ll easily get that time back in saved time cleaning up waste. To each his own.


Arrived...
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r589/TreezBulldogz/DSCN1820_zps7b27acc4.jpg) (http://s1173.photobucket.com/user/TreezBulldogz/media/DSCN1820_zps7b27acc4.jpg.html)


20 days later...
(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r589/TreezBulldogz/DSCN2042_zpsbac51b1e.jpg) (http://s1173.photobucket.com/user/TreezBulldogz/media/DSCN2042_zpsbac51b1e.jpg.html)


Title: Re:
Post by: Purebreedcolt on March 26, 2014, 11:43:33 am
I feed as much as possible.  If you dont mind butchering you can find free meat

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Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: HairyHolder on March 26, 2014, 11:53:09 am
My dogs do the best on raw. I cut and quarter my pigs hair bone and all then freeze it. I can tell the biggest difference in the heat. Dry kibble takes a lot of moisture to digest and can dehydrate your dog on hot days. Raw being 70% or more moisture is much easyer on your dogs system on hot days. The down side of raw is its a pain to keep up with, and some dogs that have never shown any sign of food aggression towards others dogs can be very aggressive when given raw. That just tells me even the dog knows it's better for them. My raw food cost is zero since I feed the pigs I kill. I don't feed big boars but feed everything else that looks healthy. Hears a video series made by a vet if you are on the fence about feeding raw.
http://youtu.be/G3wLTlqnMMg


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: J. Tallina on March 26, 2014, 01:04:09 pm
Cantex I'm confused when you say %20 of adult weight is a good starting point that'd be 10 lbs to a 50# dog...nvr mind I just realized u meant %2?


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: dodgegirl on March 26, 2014, 02:46:33 pm
Raw is the way to go! My dogs love it. & they do great on it


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Bigboy84 on March 26, 2014, 02:53:15 pm
1 leg quarter and and 1 small coffee can of victor 24/20 works fine for me


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Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: cantexduck on March 26, 2014, 02:58:06 pm
Sorry. 2% of adult weight. So a puppy that is expected to be 50 pounds should get one pound of raw from the beginning.
 


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: wine6978 on March 26, 2014, 05:07:04 pm
So you folks that feed chicken quarters. Yall feed it bone and all? I always thought dogs cant eat chicken bones cause that crack and can choke easy??? Is this a myth?


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Shotgun wg on March 26, 2014, 05:15:15 pm
Wine bones break differently after being cooked. They splinter more after cooking. That's why u ain't seen any yotes choked on chicken bones. Lol


Shotgun
Arkansas


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: wine6978 on March 26, 2014, 05:24:13 pm
Yessem I have been reading up on all this and thinking this is a jam up idea!!! Just to feed with some regular food... and hell ima start cutting off shoulders and freezing them and feeding them!!!


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: wine6978 on March 26, 2014, 05:26:05 pm
They say rabbits are good also!!! There aint gonna be a cottontail that can hide for a little bit!!! I reckon you just kill em, gut em, and freeze em. Then your good to go!!!


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Treezbulldogz on March 26, 2014, 05:35:51 pm
RAW chicken bones are just fine, it's when they're cooked (smoked,grilled,fried,etc) is when they splinter off. Don't feed cooked bones at all. Rabbits are ok as a additional meat source but not enough meat and fat on a rabbit to feed as a primary meat source. Certain beef bones are a no go because of how thick they are, they can break teeth. Most don't feed pork but after your research you can make your own decision. My ONLY regret about feeding RAW is that I didn't switch to it sooner.


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Reuben on March 26, 2014, 05:38:32 pm
They say rabbits are good also!!! There aint gonna be a cottontail that can hide for a little bit!!! I reckon you just kill em, gut em, and freeze em. Then your good to go!!!

when I was a kid I hunted my dogs almost daily and we caught 4-6 rabbits each time out and that is what they ate after the hunt...at least half the fur was eaten as well...after that it was a few table scraps including chicken bones and fish bones now and then...


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Shotgun wg on March 26, 2014, 07:00:22 pm
I don't understand why folks say don't feed cooked meat (boiled). I feed dry food. I do feed boiled meat time to time. When I do I feed broth and all. I even mix in some veggies and taters at times.  They way I figure if it's good enough for me it should be good nuff for them.


Shotgun
Arkansas


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Post by: Purebreedcolt on March 26, 2014, 07:08:13 pm
Taters are bad for dogs they cant digest the starch.  It is a pain in the but to cut frozen meat how do yall cut it into proportions before freezing

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Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: TheRednose on March 26, 2014, 07:09:45 pm
There is a really good tutorial on youtube about feeding raw, done by a gentleman who runs a bulldog board. Some on here will know who I am talking about. Some people like him some don't, but he does know the science behind feeding raw and how to correctly do it. Feeding raw really is a great way to go.


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Treezbulldogz on March 26, 2014, 07:14:48 pm
Yes Rednose, I've watched those videos as well. Have his book in my collection also. I think he has a big head but he knows his number 2. The meat is cut alot easier if it's half frozen. If I buy food unthawed, I'll bring it home and put in freezer for a couple hours and get it out and cut it, alot easier than if it's unthawed.


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: wine6978 on March 26, 2014, 07:45:41 pm
Frozen and cut it with a sawzall


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Treezbulldogz on March 26, 2014, 07:49:15 pm
I just use meat cleaver


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: sfboarbuster on March 26, 2014, 08:02:36 pm
How do y'all think a dog would do on a diet of calf cods? Over the next six weeks I should have a few hundred pounds worth. Just wondering if they would be okay on just that or if I should supplement them with something else?


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: cajunl on March 26, 2014, 08:38:10 pm
I am sure they would eat them. Save a bunch for me, ill come get them!


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Treezbulldogz on March 26, 2014, 09:44:26 pm
Somebody else may comment who knows what a calf cod is but I don't. But you want to have a certain ratio of meat,organ,bones so just calf cod by itself wouldn't be balanced enough, unless calf cod has all of those.


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: cantexduck on March 26, 2014, 09:54:52 pm
nuts.
  That is not enough to feed 100%. You will need to add to it if you plan to feed it.

 I feed chicken and a few times a month feed a mixture of organ meat,yogurt,wheat germ, total cereal and eggs(plus a few other small things). During the week I will throw in eggs,liver,heart etc on top of the normal amount of chicken.


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Bowhunter1994 on March 27, 2014, 06:45:38 am
I love feeding raw


Sonny


Title: Re:
Post by: spazhogdog on March 27, 2014, 07:00:16 am
We feed raw and don't have any allergy issues anymore. I have found that the brisket bone in cows are the best. Soft enough to be eaten by young dogs and old ones too. The only problem I see is when not hunting, they get fat quick.

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Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Treezbulldogz on March 27, 2014, 07:15:43 am
I rotate meat sources but I feed chicken, beef, fish, turkey, duck, cornish hens so far. I'm wanting to start farming rabbits so I can add that in as a meat source. I also feed chicken hearts, gizzards, liver, turkey necks, plain yogurt, salmon oil, ACV, Kale (once a week), blueberries (once a week) and a multi vitamin. There's some I'm not thinking right now but you get the point. As far as getting fat when not working, kibble would do that more than RAW will. Just adjust the amounts you're giving. If my dogs look a little fat, I adjust accordingly, same if they look thin.


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Backwoods on March 27, 2014, 08:45:39 am
I have been researching about raw feeding and some say pork is ok and others say not to,,,, so which is it ,  im going to raw and im going to ginde the raw food and freeze in one pound packs, mixing in some vegitables that they need .  I am going to watch the utube video ya'll  sugested, but im still unclear on the pork issue... help please...


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Treezbulldogz on March 27, 2014, 08:57:27 am
It's really a personal preference on pork because of possible diseases. Some freeze it for a few weeks and then feed it, some don't feed at all. I haven't fed it yet but I'm still considering it. I'd suggest to continue to do your research and you'll come up with what you feel comfortable doing for your dogs. I don't really think it would be necessary to feed pork if you have a nice variation of meat source incorporated already.


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: slimhogdog on March 27, 2014, 09:48:14 am
Man, I love my dogs but I'd never feed them a rabbit!!!LOL Ya'll boys need to come down to cajun country and get a taste of a good rabbit spaghetti or sauce piquante.


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: halfbreed on March 27, 2014, 11:04:07 am
   lol I heard that slim !!!   I would cull a beagle for trying to eat one of MY swampers  lol  now for you boy's feeding total raw I have a question    canines are not a total carnivore they are omnivors and need a certain amout of nutriants from greens . how do you supliment that ?


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Treezbulldogz on March 27, 2014, 12:18:28 pm
Halfbreed, I can only speak for myself obviously but I give just a little kale greens that I cut up in a food processor. From what I've learned canines eat greens in the form of "half digested" greens from their prey's stomach. That's why It's best to chop greens in processor first. I also think it's up for debate whether or not they're carnivores or omnivores. I'm not saying I know for sure and I'm sure you know more than I do just by the advantage you have on me in years of experience so I'm not arguing by any means, just stating that some people believe different. Some don't do any greens at all. Now, if somebody has whole animals they wouldn't need to do that, just toss the dogs a chicken or whatever.


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Backwoods on March 27, 2014, 12:35:58 pm
From every thing I have read and the people I have talked to say the same thing,  ,,  you dont have to but its a little better if you do mix in some greens, such as collards, turnips, Kale, carrots  ect.  per feeding,  so Im just going to mix mine in when i grind it up like hamburger and make it one pound packs. you can also give them an egg, shell and all  once or twice a week.. and that helps aslo..  just things ive been reading and info i have been compiling.. 


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Reuben on March 27, 2014, 01:52:58 pm
   lol I heard that slim !!!   I would cull a beagle for trying to eat one of MY swampers  lol  now for you boy's feeding total raw I have a question    canines are not a total carnivore they are omnivors and need a certain amout of nutriants from greens . how do you supliment that ?

x2...on the omnivores...most of the carnivores if not all get their vegetation from the stomach and intestines of their prey...


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: T.R. on March 27, 2014, 06:28:32 pm
If a dog can put teeth on a live hog in the woods and not get the diseases then why would they get them from them after butchering? Probaly a dum question just had to ask.


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: jdt on March 27, 2014, 06:29:48 pm
 x's 2 about getting their greens from intestines of herbivores !
   when you turn them out they will hunt up whatever greens they need from certain grasses  .

 the rest of what they need is in raw meat . find me a bag of dogfood that does all that !


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: jdt on March 27, 2014, 06:33:09 pm
and dogs will not get worms from fresh raw meat unless the meat soaks up worm eggs from the ground before eating .


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Treezbulldogz on March 27, 2014, 06:38:01 pm
If a dog can put teeth on a live hog in the woods and not get the diseases then why would they get them from them after butchering? Probaly a dum question just had to ask.
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This was quoted from somebody who knows alot more than I about feeding RAW, spoken better than I could work it.



"I wouldn't feed raw pork because of the potential for trichinosis, which is a kind of worm that pigs can get.

I fully understand that not every raw pork specimen is going to be afflicted with the trichina worm; in fact, I fully understand that most raw pork specimens will not. But because the potential is there, I personally just would not feed this meat raw.

Because trichinosis 1) can be fatal, 2) is transmissable to humans, and 3) does NOT get eradicated by either standard worming meds or standard worming dosages either, I personally will never deviate from my position and would never feed any raw meat that might possibly contain this worm to my dogs. It simply is not worth the risk.

Regarding the prospect of freezing first, this is another reason why I avoid pork. If you google "trichinosis+frozen," you will also see this particular worm has a high resistance to freezing, which means you can't even get rid of this worm by freezing it. You MUST cook this meat to kill the worm. If you do a little research, the trichina worm is resistant to freezing because it is found in arctic animals (which live in the coldest areas of the world), and so this particular worm has evolved to be able to survive long-term freezing in the bodies of dead arctic animals, even when frozen solid. In other words, you "freezing" pork does NOTHING to protect either you or your dogs

Cooking solid will though ... which is why we humans ALWAYS cook pork 100% well done in our kitchens ...

Anyway, my own personal conclusion is there is no reason on earth to risk using "the unclean meat" of raw pork on your dogs, when there are better options."


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: jdt on March 27, 2014, 06:54:52 pm
well,  my folks have been feeding raw anything for generations . i lost a dog once to spuedorabies but the dog only caught the hog on the ear , not eat him .

   worms and parasites normaly don't live in and grow in muscle tissue , however working dogs are not as susceptiful to these things as humans and lapdogs tend to be  ;D ;D ;D



come to think of it how have coyotes made it up to now ?????????????????????


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: cantexduck on March 27, 2014, 07:15:53 pm
well,  my folks have been feeding raw anything for generations . i lost a dog once to spuedorabies but the dog only caught the hog on the ear , not eat him .

   worms and parasites normaly don't live in and grow in muscle tissue , however working dogs are not as susceptiful to these things as humans and lapdogs tend to be  ;D ;D ;D



come to think of it how have coyotes made it up to now ?????????????????????


  Not a very strong argument. Wild animals die of infections and from being sick all the time. The information never said all pork has the worms just that it has been found enough to warrant a warning.


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Treezbulldogz on March 27, 2014, 08:24:32 pm
Exactly correct, it's just not worth the risk to everybody. Might be worth it to you, I guess you have to ask yourself how much your dogs mean to you.


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Backwoods on March 28, 2014, 08:05:02 am
Ok ,,, let me ask a nother question.  If you catch hogs like we all do , and then put him in a pen like I  do and worm him, shouldnt that fix the probelm , as long as you dont kill and prepare him until the wormer has run its course and be out of the hogs system, common sense tells me it will be ok. I would not feed raw pork to my dogs straight out of the woods, but even with common sense , im still unsure at this time.


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: halfbreed on March 28, 2014, 08:19:53 am
  I just don't know , me I am not going back in time .  man has come a long way in the last 100 years . it's kind of like I tell my older sickly brother , that is one of them herbalist  lol . when all mankind had was roots and herbs and an old man shaking a bone rattle , the life expectancy of man was about 37 years .  Granpa's generation fed whatever was left to the hounds and I don't remember seeing any 13 and 14 year old dogs still preforming on any hunts or laying around on the front porch .

  I do feed some raw occasionally , but i'll stick with science .  good discussion tho !!


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Treezbulldogz on March 28, 2014, 08:40:51 am
I hear ya Halfbreed but it's all a "marketing strategy". Of course they want you to keep spending your hard earned money on "fido's" expensive, overpriced food. Look on the bad of food you feed. I'm sure if there isn't pictures of fresh meat on the bag it says on the ingredients listing that meat in one of the first ingredients listed. Now open the bag of kibble and grab one of those "pieces of meat". It's a dry, dirt like piece of kibble. It's not a fresh piece of meat like they want you to believe it is you're feeding "fido". When they make the kibble they cook all of the nutrients and valueable ingredients out of it and then they try to add it all back in for the consumer. It's not for everybody but those who have switched with they would have sooner. Just a personal preference is all.


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: jdt on March 28, 2014, 03:17:49 pm
i make part of my living with my dogs . sure they could get trich or something one day , same as they could get salmonella from a bad batch of dogfood ! same as you could get ecoli from mis handeled meat OR organic spinach ! and yes both have happened .

if you knew what all was put in dogfood most would quit feeding it . if most knew what all was in our food they'd be raising their own !

science is great but it is no substitute for common sense .

the bottom line is the good lord designed dogs to eat meat and cows to eat corn !  if you don't beleive that look at their teeth and then  check your science book .


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Treezbulldogz on March 28, 2014, 03:33:13 pm
^^^Well said.


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: slckhunter1978 on March 28, 2014, 05:28:12 pm
science is great but it is no substitute for common sense!

Amen


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Shotgun wg on March 28, 2014, 06:13:59 pm
Unlike most I have handled nearly every ingredient in dog food. Especially diamond and hills science diet ingredients. I have handled lot of the ones in purina. I have been in different dog food plants all over this country. The ones listed above are very clean plants that are very strict when it comes to ingredients. I have been to rendering plants slaughter houses packing plants. I have seen just about every aspect of what ur food and dog food goes thru before it hits the table or food bowl. I will not feed dog food from the el cheapo companies such as tops. Every cheapo plant I have been to was nasty and lacked most of the scrutiny that the bigger places use. If u are hauling ingredients to one of the major producers I listed above and u are rejected for one reason or another u don't take it to a dump. U take it to the cheap suppliers. I may pay more per bag but I feel confident my feed is safe. I do understand some feel that raw is the only way to go while others feel that kibble is the only way. With either choice the most important part is choose quality feed that u feel has been handled properly.

I know I was off topic kinda soapboxing but saying all kibble is worse than raw and the price of  fees is just marketing isn't always right.


Shotgun
Arkansas


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: cantexduck on March 28, 2014, 06:38:33 pm
Isn't diamond the one that has recalls all the time.


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Treezbulldogz on March 28, 2014, 07:13:26 pm
Having fed both kibble and RAW my personal experience and opinion is RAW is better than kibble, yes. But I think you might have mistaken me though shotgun, I wasn't speaking of any fees at all with marketing. I said that what halfbreed was referring to is all a marketing strategy to keep the masses buying their IMO inferior product. And I know cantex was just being sarcastic but YES Diamond has had more recalls than all of us could count. And science diet sucks also.


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Shotgun wg on March 28, 2014, 07:22:06 pm
The recalls in 2012 effected more than just diamond due to salmonella. Y'all also said this was possible feeding raw. Fresh express is probly the highest consumed pre package salad in the US. The salmonella recall several years back in lettuce was theirs.

We all make up our own mind. U feed ur dogs I don't. Same with my dogs. The most important part of my previouse post was to be sure to feed what u feel is quality ingredients regardless of which method u choose.


Shotgun
Arkansas


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: Treezbulldogz on March 28, 2014, 07:26:12 pm
"We all make up our own mind. U feed ur dogs I don't. Same with my dogs. The most important part of my previouse post was to be sure to feed what u feel is quality ingredients regardless of which method u choose."


I agree.


Title: Re: how manny of you feed raw
Post by: hatchet10 on April 01, 2014, 06:43:35 pm
Half of what my dogs catch they eat. I'll clean the hog, de- bone it hanging and cut all the bones in sections with a machete. I use to boil it but i found it cooks quicker in the oven at 400 deg. I'll cook it about halfway done. The dogs love it and they look good/hunt harder. I also feed diamond High energy. I've noticed all of my dogs develop a deeper chest and a smaller hind end. Even my pups. They are all different breeds so I'm leaning to the diet and length i run them for being the cause. I have had a couple of problems with bones getting hung up in the dog but far and few in between.