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Title: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: grittydog on June 14, 2012, 08:41:02 pm
Is the fuel prices going down because of the upcoming elections?


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: Reuben on June 14, 2012, 08:58:07 pm
maybe...but if the economy goes down like they say it might then it will go down some...


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: txdogos on June 14, 2012, 09:02:05 pm
its embarrassing, i have to get a hybrid car for my commute. 110 miles a day, 3 days a week. It will damn sure have some tinted windows so no one can see me tho. Cant stand these gas prices


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: Eric on June 14, 2012, 09:38:47 pm
OPEC opened the valve a little


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: tnhillbilly on June 15, 2012, 01:09:48 am
$297 a gal. At bp on my way to work.


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Post by: SCHitemHard on June 15, 2012, 01:10:53 am
wow its 3.70 here, bout $160 every two weeks rolleyes :-\


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Post by: tnhillbilly on June 15, 2012, 01:12:41 am
HAHA meant $2.97 a gal.


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Post by: boarboy on June 15, 2012, 01:24:32 am
$3.27 per gal. here bout $100 a week it blows


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Post by: dwhd93 on June 15, 2012, 06:15:10 am
$3.27 per gal. here bout $100 a week it blows
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Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: bob on June 15, 2012, 08:05:33 am
thank god my company pays for my gas , maybee 900 to 1000 a month


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: airduster29 on June 15, 2012, 09:12:15 am
3.44 here in NM I use $300 a week worth


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: charles on June 15, 2012, 11:04:14 am
 $3.70 a gal here. opec is a bunch of crooks, their pumping valve should be opened fully just below the chin


Title: Re: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: grittydog on June 15, 2012, 11:39:11 am
3.39 for Diesel 125 to fill up and it last 10 days. It adds up quick

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Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: justincorbell on June 15, 2012, 04:40:33 pm
3.39 for Diesel 125 to fill up and it last 10 days. It adds up quick

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Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: grittydog on June 15, 2012, 04:49:49 pm
I changed jobs a few months back and cut it in 1/2.


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: Circle C on June 15, 2012, 04:56:51 pm
I fill up one of my trucks at least every other day. It's not so bad when it's just the truck, but when I fill the truck and the in bed tank is when it really hurts.

However, being tied to the oil and petrochem business, I welcome 100.00 oil.


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: grittydog on June 15, 2012, 05:24:53 pm
Yeah I work in the in the Refineries, I wont bitch to much about prices, but it sucks knowing the elections are going to make it drop for votes.


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: H.Wilson on June 17, 2012, 03:07:42 pm
3.45 a gallon for diesel here bout one 140 to fill up and I can go a little under 600 miles on a tank


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: charles on June 17, 2012, 04:31:33 pm
Yeah I work in the in the Refineries, I wont bitch to much about prices, but it sucks knowing the elections are going to make it drop for votes.

How does it suck knowing the fuel price is gonna drop? Do you get kick backs for every barrel of oil sold? I guess inconviensing


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: charles on June 17, 2012, 04:34:44 pm
Yeah I work in the in the Refineries, I wont bitch to much about prices, but it sucks knowing the elections are going to make it drop for votes.

How does it suck knowing the fuel price is gonna drop? Do you get kick backs for every barrel of oil sold? I guess as long as million of fuel buyers pay the wages of the 10s of 10,000 o&g workers then its ok for fuel prices to stay high.


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: Reuben on June 17, 2012, 04:44:02 pm
Yeah I work in the in the Refineries, I wont bitch to much about prices, but it sucks knowing the elections are going to make it drop for votes.

How does it suck knowing the fuel price is gonna drop? Do you get kick backs for every barrel of oil sold? I guess as long as million of fuel buyers pay the wages of the 10s of 10,000 o&g workers then its ok for fuel prices to stay high.

Charles, if the price of oil per barrel drops too much then the oil drillers will get laid off due to the rigs operating in the red...they will lay off employees of stop drilling...one of the few places I wouldn't mind seeing government assistance is when it comes to drilling for oil...let the oil prices come down and keep the rigs employed...lower prices will help my pocket book...but more than likely what I am saying is only a small piece of the big picture...


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: charles on June 17, 2012, 07:18:45 pm
 and rueben, thats where we need to grab our government by their twig and berries and comense sqeezing till they buckle from the pain. you are right, the government needs to step in when something like that senario happens. its a double edge sword. fuel prices continue to rise till families have to make a choice of putting food on the table, or fuel in the gas tank to get to work to either more fuel in the tank or food on the table, but yet if the price drops to much, they lay off rig workers. again, the majority rules, if prices rise to much, then the populous speaks against it. there are more that pay at the pump than there is that work in the o&g services. it sucks on both ends, and knowing how it feels to get layed off, it sucks and dont dont wish it on any, but yet if i have to choose fuel over food, sorry for your luck. the folks working overseas just took a huge hit in their pocket books and they have crappier living and working conditions than the majority of the folks here. its damned if you do and damned if you dont. nothing can be done with out pissing off some1.


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: grittydog on June 17, 2012, 08:39:43 pm
Charles,
My point being that the price of fuel should already be lower,not get lowerewd to get votes. It should have never gotten that high to start with.


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: MrsLouisianaHogDog on June 18, 2012, 12:12:38 pm
Gas here is a low as it's been in a LONG time. It's a $3.09 a gallon right now for the cheap stuff. Still pretty killer for thos eo fus that drive trucks, lol.


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: RL on June 18, 2012, 12:28:40 pm
Reading these posts by Charles and Reuben exemplifies the challenge of wanting less government, less subsidies  ...  but keep supporting my industry.  This is the Tea Party challenge too.

Just today, there was an article in the paper about farm subsidies  ...  rice was the highlighted crop.  The farmer was "conservative" but railed against cutting rice subsidies.  Now Reuben wants lower fuel prices but not at the expense of oil industry jobs so he would prefer an oil industry subsidy.

It is a conundrum  ...  and more than a little fascinating to observe.  Oh, btw, in the interest of full disclosure and a likely feeble attempt to not be a hypocrit  ...  I make my living by navigating the tax code.  Therefore, I do not support simplification or elimination, etc.  I guess we all have our own special interests we want protected.   ;)


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: Eric on June 18, 2012, 12:32:28 pm
Wether you like it or not in Texas your job is most likely tied to the oil and gas industry... With a few exceptions. The tax revenue for Texas alone is huge. Bush and Perry were no heroes... Texas doesn't have all the taxes like California and others because we get so much revenue from oil and gas.

Think about it... Life was good at $5 gasoline. Every body was working. Ya it hurt a little at the pump but your wages and budgeting priorities would have adjusted had it stayed up.

The only thing propping the Texas economy up right now is O&G revenue. The politicians did not fix the Texas budget. The Eagle Ford Shale fixed the Texas budget.


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: magnuml on June 18, 2012, 12:32:35 pm
Charles,
My point being that the price of fuel should already be lower,not get lowerewd to get votes. It should have never gotten that high to start with.
Amen!   Diesel is the one that makes me angry the most, it was told years ago it was cheaper because it was a bi product of gas and the cheapest to make, when diesel sales grew with cars and Pick up trucks and trucking got bigger the prices went thru the roof. That is price gauging all day long. It is still a Bi product and the cheapest to make. Then look at off road diesel and it gets crazier. Cheapest to make and Highest at the Pump. Greed is all it is!


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: Eric on June 18, 2012, 01:40:30 pm
Diesel is NOT a biproduct of gasoline.

I hope one day y'all own a business and get to feel the pressures of these outside sources telling you how to operate.


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: magnuml on June 18, 2012, 02:53:50 pm
Diesel is NOT a biproduct of gasoline.

I hope one day y'all own a business and get to feel the pressures of these outside sources telling you how to operate.
Sorry bi product was not the correct word. Thank you. but i do believe it is what is left over after refining gasoline and can't pass the standards for that. and it is the cheapest to make with the least testing and refining.

Diesel fuel evaporates more slowly because it is heavier. It contains more carbon atoms in longer chains than gasoline does (gasoline is typically C9H20, while diesel fuel is typically C14H30). It takes less refining to create diesel fuel, which is why it used to be cheaper than gasoline. Since 2004, however, demand for diesel has risen for several reasons, including increased industrialization and construction in China and the U.S. [source: Energy Information Administration].

people don't need to own a buisness to know they are getting the raw end of the deal with fuel. And how do you know some of the people on here are not buisness owners present or past, managers or other White collar people? You are on here.


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: jakes on June 18, 2012, 03:18:03 pm
Diesel prices have risen because of EPA protocol and it is being refined much more now. The more it's refined the more it costs. Diesel in the past had a much higher sulfer content than what's being made now. I work in a refinery and we make 80,000 bpd. Sumbiches just cut everyones bonus


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: Eric on June 18, 2012, 03:42:18 pm
What PETA wants the govt to do to hog hunters is the same as what y'all want the govt to do to the O&G industry. There is no difference. That hypocrisy is what has destroyed our country.


Just because some thing is left over after gasoline does not make it less valuable. Lots of products are separated from a barrel of crude. There value is based on what people are willing to pay for them... Not off of what gasoline is going for.


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: RL on June 18, 2012, 04:08:43 pm
Sumbiches just cut everyones bonus

Regular paychecks AND a bonus.  Heck of a deal.


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: RL on June 18, 2012, 04:11:06 pm
What PETA wants the govt to do to hog hunters is the same as what y'all want the govt to do to the O&G industry. There is no difference. That hypocrisy is what has destroyed our country.

As I said previously, most of us want "smaller government and fewer regulations"  ...  that is unless it benefits us or our industry  ...  in which case "more is better".


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: Eric on June 18, 2012, 04:46:19 pm
What PETA wants the govt to do to hog hunters is the same as what y'all want the govt to do to the O&G industry. There is no difference. That hypocrisy is what has destroyed our country.

As I said previously, most of us want "smaller government and fewer regulations"  ...  that is unless it benefits us or our industry  ...  in which case "more is better".

I got that... Thought if I compared it to some thing we... On this forum... All experience it might sink in.


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: crackae11 on June 18, 2012, 05:43:29 pm
I'm just curios as to why diesel is more then gas ? Is it not bottom of the barrels and not much refining ? Or is it only because of the demand the last10 15 years where everywhere now diesel trucks are bein driven I'm damned tired of 130$ a week to fill up at 360 3.70 gal but what are we to do ?


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: Reuben on June 18, 2012, 05:57:40 pm
I'm just curios as to why diesel is more then gas ? Is it not bottom of the barrels and not much refining ? Or is it only because of the demand the last10 15 years where everywhere now diesel trucks are bein driven I'm damned tired of 130$ a week to fill up at 360 3.70 gal but what are we to do ?

Back when I was a kid diesel was about 12 cents a gallon.
. Gas was 27 cents a gallon...when unleaded first came on the scene it cost about 5 cents less than regular... that is until regular was about phased out then unleaded was 5 cents higher...its all about supply and demand...


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: Eric on June 18, 2012, 07:54:23 pm
I'm just curios as to why diesel is more then gas ? Is it not bottom of the barrels and not much refining ? Or is it only because of the demand the last10 15 years where everywhere now diesel trucks are bein driven I'm damned tired of 130$ a week to fill up at 360 3.70 gal but what are we to do ?

Post #29... just above yours.

Diesel prices have risen because of EPA protocol and it is being refined much more now. The more it's refined the more it costs. Diesel in the past had a much higher sulfer content than what's being made now. I work in a refinery and we make 80,000 bpd. Sumbiches just cut everyones bonus


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: cajunl on June 18, 2012, 08:10:21 pm
Diesel is more know because it has to be low sulphur. When that changed the price did also.

12 years ago I was just graduating college and got some money for graduation. A very smart man told me the world has a insatiable appetite for fossil fuels. Until something better is found. He told me to invest in fuel stocks and everything to do with it.


When prices are down I win at the pump....When prices are up I win in the market. ;D




Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: crackae11 on June 18, 2012, 08:29:36 pm
Ok thanks I don't keep up on stuff like that maybee one day when I'm not workin 14 hr days makin beer ill be able to learn about what's going on in my country all I know is work and hunt kids hunt work hunt kids ol lady. ! I think I've learned more on here in last year then the last 20 years of my life about what's going on around me . THANKS EPA FOR SMUDGIN UP DIESEL PRICES FOR ME SO THAT I HAVE TO WORK SO MUCH LEAST I GET FREE BEER SO MY BEER MONEY CAN GO IN MY TANK !


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: magnuml on June 18, 2012, 10:02:54 pm
What PETA wants the govt to do to hog hunters is the same as what y'all want the govt to do to the O&G industry. There is no difference. That hypocrisy is what has destroyed our country.

As I said previously, most of us want "smaller government and fewer regulations"  ...  that is unless it benefits us or our industry  ...  in which case "more is better".

I got that... Thought if I compared it to some thing we... On this forum... All experience it might sink in.
I guess some of us are not so rich that we don't care that Big Oil is making Record profits in a very bad economy from charging us on demand insted of being fair and going by what it costs them to produce  a product and mark it up a decent percentage like most companies. I mean they only have controll over the price of EVERYTHING we buy one way or another. who runs this country again? Oh well, i am depressed now so done with this and back to hog hunting and dogs as long as i can afford to Buy dog food and put gas in my truck.


Title: Re: Diesel/Gas Prices
Post by: Eric on June 18, 2012, 10:34:45 pm
Saying that all O&G companies are having record profits is like saying all grocery stores are getting rich like Wal-Mart.

You want to know what its like being an O&G Company. Go to Vegas with a handful of money. Your either going to end up Exxon mobile or the thousands of other companies who go bust.

This subject really rubs me raw. Its always people who have no clue who want to tell you what they heard in the news. Im 3rd generation in this deal on every thing from driling to production. I stand right next to guys who write the checks to drill wells. Its no picnic.

I want to see some of these people who always cry about the money the O&G companies are making put up thier personal to drill these wells. If its such a money making business why arent we all doing it? Every one wants to share the benifits but who wants to take the risk?

Thats my last rant before I get in trouble. ^-^


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Post by: sfboarbuster on June 18, 2012, 10:36:48 pm
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Post by: SCHitemHard on June 18, 2012, 11:28:39 pm
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