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ive got a dog that just will not put on weight i have tried all kinds of feed and worm him every month with ivomec and it seems that nothing i have tried works what do u thank i should do

Worm x he has tapes it sounds like

Go to the vet get some enzyme pills put him on a self feeder he will put on weight

IVOMEC WILL NOT KILL TAPEWORMS

Ive got a 2 year old blue pit that i have never been able to put weight on.  Hes prob 40lbs and his mom and dad were both 100lbs.  Ive tried it all and came up with hes just not a big dog.   Good luck with whatever you try.

Just because you are "WORMING" a dog doesnt mean the wormer kills the particular type of worm your dog has.  When in doubt go get a fecal sample done and see what worms the dog has....

Go to your local co-op or feed store. Here's a list of what you need.
Tape worm pills they will know what your talking about. Or pyrantel pomate that will get rid of the tapes if they got em. Ivermectin which will get rid of the rest of the worms the pyrantel doesn't get. Give em a dose of the ivomec its hard to overdose them on it but over a certain amount your just wasting wormer .1 ml per 10lbs. Wait a day or two and give em a dose of the pyrantel and usually its a three day cycle on it just to make sure you got the lower.intestinal tract clear.
Probiotics. Commonly called probios.
This is what your gonna need to put weight back on em chances are you've had to give a round or two of antibiotics from time to time which is fine but what most people don't know is it kills the good antibodies as well as the bad. This stuff will promote growth of good antibodies in the digestive system which help the dogs absorb what they eat. If the dogs heartworm positive the ivomec could kill em so be careful.

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Ivomec is only for heart worms get safe guard for horses and it takes care of all other worms but not tapes vet has a round pill for tapes that they eat like chocolate

Use valbazen and it will kill them all, including tapes.  Mix ivomec into the valbazen as a heartworm preventative. 

Have blood drawn to check for a tick born illness.

Panacur and Ivemec

Ivomec can treat more than just heartworms. Pyrantle pomate treats a wide range of intestinal parasites, fenbendazole which is the main ingredient in the products that have been mentioned also treats a wide variety of intestinal parasites. Proziquantil is the more common treatment for killing almost all or all types of tapeworms which is usually in the pill for simply labeled tapeworm pills at the local feed store.

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This is all over the place on info. Good intentions but some incorrect info. Pyrental Pomate ( Strongid), ( Nemex II ) is for Round Worms and Hook worms only. Pyrental Pomate will NOT kill Tape and Whip worms. Safeguard has the same ingredient as Panacur and that WILL kill Tape worms and Whip worms. As for Ivermectin yes it is for heart worms and it does usually keep Round and Hook worms away and can kill them when dosed right. Hope this helps.

I had a couple I bought that were wormed with panacur and ivermec at the fellow I bought them from.  The dogs didn't look wormy just wouldn't gain wait. I wormed them 3 days 1cc per 10 lbs with valbazen and ivermec  in a week looked like new dogs.  Should be able too pic it up at jeffers vet supply, or feed store.

vet

I use zermectrin gold horse wormer it has ivamect in it one click for every 50# if a dog is less still give them one click will not hurt them and I rotate every month between that ans safeguard

safeguard

thanks for all the advice

Assumsing you have the dog wormed out,  this recipe usually packs on weight..

Satin Balls
10 lbs cheap hamburger (high fat %)
1 large box uncooked oatmeal (I generally use about 3/4 of the box)
12 raw eggs
1 15oz jar wheat germ
10 packages Knox unflavored gelatin
1 cup vegetable oil
1 cup salmon oil
1 and 1/4 cup unsulfured molasses
4 cups cooked brown rice

I roll these into about baseball size patties and freeze.

feed canned puppy food on top of the dry food. I did it for 2 months and gained 10 lbs on one of my females

i have also tried a vet prescribed med. It is a human anti depressant but when a dog takes them it increases the appetite. cant remember the name but google it.

Just mix all ingredients together? No cooking anything but rice?

if you r really worryed adout him, i would take him to the vet , they will let you know how to treat him, dont mean you have to buy the meds form them thou

He's been treated...he's fine now...eating canned food pretty well (surprised me to find out adult canned food sucks as far as protein and fat go) Its just gonna take a day or two for his digestive system to get back on track.

Jasper never has been a big stocky heavy dog....he's a big leggy and lanky dog, lol......I normally keep him around 65 pounds or so and thats just about right for hunting. Right now he's probably 55 pounds or so..... Im just lookin to put the weight back on as quickly and safely as possible.

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Lol...nope...no worms...sorry but I didn't get into the specifics on this thread...he had coccidiosis.

I wasn't the original poster! Just kinda borrowed the thread for the satin balls info

go to the vet

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I made these this weekend, for a bitch who whelped on Saturday. She hadn't been eating very well (or at all), and we all know she needs the nourishment, so I figured it was worth a try. Now she runs out of the whelping box, grabs the ball, and runs back in to her pups to scarf it down. She still has not touched her dry food since Thursday, I'd say she likes it...

Anyway, I just cooked the rice, then mixed it all together, balled it up between baseball and softball size, and stuck it on a baking tin to freeze. I also left the egg shells in it, and used cod liver oil instead of Salmon oil because that's what I could get and it was rated higher in every reported nutrient.

Making it was not cheap, but I can certainly see how it would work.

Good luck.

Steve

Thanks Steve

All over the place info, 

There are two kinds of tapeworms that can infect a dog.  The most common is the one they get from ingesting a flea.  So if your dogs have had fleas on them, they can get tapes pretty easy.  Even if the dog has no fleas on them at the moment, if they've ingested a flea in the past, it will take a while for the segments to show up in the stool.  The other kind of tapeworm is the one they get from eating a mouse, squirrel, rabbit, etc and it is called a taniae tapeworm.  It is the least common.  I forget the name of the most common tapeworm but is starts with a "D" something like dyplidium. 

Valbazen will only get the kind of tapeworm that dogs usually do not get, so using valbazen most likely will not kill the specific tape that your dog most likely has.  Pyrantel Pamoate WILL NOT kill tapes, nor will SAFEGUARD, nor will IVOMEC.  I know it says on the bottle that it might kill tapes, but NOT the kind that dogs get most of the time. 

Go to the vet and get some Droncit pills, or another pill sold under the brand name Cestex.  You give the pills at a rate of one pill per 15lbs body weight.  You will NOT see the dog pass a wad of tapeworms after you give the pill.  If you see a wad of worms, it is roundworms your seeing, and the droncit or cestex doesn't kill them anyway, so whatever wad of worms you see is from the Valbazen or Safeguard or Strongid you gave the dog.

The Droncit will simply cause the tapeworms to die off in the intestine and the dog will absorb them.  So you gibe the pills and the next day or two the segments are gone from the stool and your good to go.   

Also, there is one other "little known" reason some dogs have trouble putting on weight.  If a dog has had a chronic infestation of worms for a long period of time, especially during the developmental stages, such as a prolonged hook worm infestation . . the intestines can become lined with scar tissue, and over time, it decreases absorption of nutrients in the intestines.  What happen is the dog will get absorption in the stomach only, and the food is passing through the dog and not being 100% utilized.  If you've ever had a dog that you just had to feed like 3 times as much as all the other dogs, and you've taken this dog to the vet and had him wormed real good and checked out, but he still won't gain weight unless you pour the feed to him . . then this could be a possibile reason.

I know i sound like a broken record . Worm the dog good and feed him two eggs  Am & two eggs PM along with your regular food . He will put on weight fast !