EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

 We have so many runners on my place and I was wondering what would be the best to stop a runner? Would it be a good catahoula or a good cur dog? I have heard both but which one would be better?

A good bullet in the ear would do the trick.  Lol sorry but any dog breed might be able to do it just got to find that dog.

We have a few alright dogs but we have a bunch of 400lb runners so it takes a couple good dogs to do it and by the time all the dogs get to the bay then the hog is gone

 :-X  Must....... Resist......  Smarta$$ Comments.....   :D

T-bob better not read this  ;D

It dont matter what breed he is just as long as he can do the job. Bmc would be my choice but im a bmc guy. You need a dog to set one on his ass instead of chase him.

A lot of 400 hundred pounders wish I could be lucky enough to get one 400 pounder to run across any of my places

Oh yea as said above any breed could do it just need to get the right dog or keep a couple fresh dogs in the box catch the hog running across a road and turn some fresh dogs to him and pick up the others. That fall out of the race

Every time it happens like this : one of the dogs will find a pig  and try to bay it and by time any other dogs get there the hog is gone because that one dog couldn't hold a bay on a big pig like that by itself

That's a good thing that you have identified a possible problem. Heres my advice when it comes to a routine habit of "runnin hogs"

Take whichever dog is doing the main striking and leave all your other dogs at home. Let that dog strike the hog and see if one single dog can bring it to bay. If he does, sneak in their quietly as a churchmouse and send the catchdog or shoot that hog or whatever you do.

If he cant handle it, try  the same thing with the rest of your dogs individually and this should help to figure out if you've got running hogs or a sorry baybuster.

Good luck, I'm busy now but let the debate begin and I'll check back in later.

Thanks I will try that

well that went differently

a good pack that stays together instead of doing their own thing

Why I said what I said above.

There are some hogs that are just gonna run, BUT if you are routinely Having hogs simply bolt when a second or third or fourth dog shows up, its time to ask 2 key questions, do I have a baybuster (or pack baybusters) OR would this hog get comfortable with a single dog.

It's easier said than done though because no one wants to think their dogs a baybuster. So you need to be sensitive about the approach.
If your striking them everytime then it shouldn't be real hard to figure out which dogs ain't cutting the mustard and get your affairs in order accordingly.

As far as why I chose to give an answer instead of picking on him, I don't know really other than to say I feel for folks who are having the "runnin hog" thing spoil their fun. I've had running hogs hurt my pride plenty and instead of letting them beat me, I have tried (whenever it's respectful to do so) to suggest leaving my dogs out, leaving this dog or that dog out or only running one now or fresh packing or whatever I could think of to beat that hog.

Two good plotts (I dont mean the average plott) that can stay with a runner until he stops.  Once he stops he is caught!  If you ever hunt behind a real good one, you will know what I mean.  Let his butt run for a while and them turn out plott number two...he cant run forever.

I am with Wilson, Id like to see one 400 lb. 

Thank yal for the tips and I killed a 500lb pig 2 years ago on my land and somebody else did last month and we have had a good many pigs around 400lbs bayed up but they always broke before we could get there

i have the same prob..ive tried each dog alone, certain dogs together, and all dogs together. these pigs just wont stay put for more than 30 secs. it sucks. im thinking my dogs just arent holding these pigs..ive never had this prob til this new place.

Id like to see a pic of that 500lber....Thats a stud of a hog, congrats!


"the sun is shining somewhere in texas" -Jason Boland

Our dogs do amazing every other place except for my place  and we have had other people come in my place and come back with every dog they brought dead

When I killed him I didn't realize that a pig like that was so rare so I was stupid and didn't get a picture of him

How do you know they are baying 400lb hogs everytime?  Are y'all seeing the hog when other breaks?

Hmmmm.....   

Y'all c'mon, let's go easy. What part of the state you live in bro? Maybe try the tips everyone has given and if they still ain't working I'd like to maybe get a chance to meet some new friends and try my hand at some big unstoppable hogs. I'm not being cocky, I'll put money on me getting outrun too but it'd be a fun hunt probably. I truly and humbly want a shot at a 400 pounder.

I'm thought of as a smarta$$ and so I just realized no matter how I word it, it still seems like I'm being one. Please understand I'm being honest when I say I'd probably not catch em, but it's always nice to meet new folks and catch hogs that I ain't cuaght before.

I see the tracks were they were bayed and there have been a few times that I saw the bay break and it was a BIG pig and I live in east texas about 20 minutes east of tyler

I hunted a place for 4 years with a guy I ran with my dogs struck 90% of the hogs there year after year the guy I hunted with was not real experienced in dogging and we had our differences so i started hunting other places needless to say the awesome finished strike dogs i had couldn't stop a hog over 15lbs they would either bark two three times and. The hogs would break or when the rest of the dogs would get there the hog would break. I went from cloud nine with the best dogs in the world to wanting to trade em In for a newer modle lol thinking they weren't worth a poo but 2-3 months of lossing hogs and bam they figured it out. And so did I my dogs would strike them under pressured hogs all the time but couldn't hang with the smarter hogs on the new place that would run .50 mile plus with time we both figured out ways to improve our game and put pork on the table in this game u have to constintly adapt and adjust to every different situation that comes with time I hope u or ur dogs will figure it out and grow from there good luck

trent i see the horns growin brother... go easy... :laugh: popo

Just bc he has a big track doesnt make him 400lb. I caught one ab 2 months ago that had a track bigger than a skoal can and he only went 236lb. Tracks make them seem way bigger than what they are. Good luck on gettin him tho. Im sure its a dang good hog regardless and i would like to try n help catch him if i was closer. Good luck on stoppin him

That's a real far drive for me and my old beat up chevy but I do wish the best of luck to you. Don't worry about how much he does or doesn't weigh, the only way to know for certain is to get that son of a gun cuaght and on a scale! Have fun with it, try to test your dogs ad see if you got a truly bad hog or if the dogs need a different strategy or pack style and have at em! Most of the fun of hog hunting for me is seeing good dog work and identifying/culling bad ones. It's all good fella.

Also the rubs are sometimes chin high and I don't think I have ever been out on this place and not have a hog struck it's just I don't have experienced enough dogs to work on the runners

Chin high huh?  How tall a fella are you?

I'm 5'8

man this hole is gettin alot deeper rolleyes

This is going to be good

ha ha that's a big hog . i had one in waxahachie that his rubs were 44 inches on the telephone pole and he would cut wood with his cutters about chin high on me  lol i never could get no one to go with me when i knew he was in town  lol i wasn't gonna try him alone i was just hunting my curs back then  , no catch dogs . he used to make a regular circute around the farm had a pretty good range he traveled . i seen him twice and he looked like a big black pickup truck goimg thru the high wheat  lol my neighbor seen him a bunch in his pasture and thought someones yearling angus was out  lol . there out there but rare . needless to say i would allways check for his tracks before i turned the dogs loose and if i cut his fresh sign i went somewhere's else to run  lol

they are out there...but I don't think brazoria county will produce any bigger than 400-425...

oh but any how hogkilla i'm not to awfull far from ya but i've got some doctoring to get done before i get back at it . how much land ya got to run . i could start getting the dogs in shape they been off all summer . i'll start roading them and get my buddy to handle my dogs for me and we'll give er a shot . but i'm an ol fart and have to be in the daylite . i'm sceered of the dark lol

Hey buddy don't let them get you stirred up.  I have hunted since I was alitte boy and had tons of hog go across a set of scale real scales and never pushed one that weighed 500. A 400 pound hog is real rare but has been caught. If the hogs are slipping on you well it happens. Get a fast running cur dog with lots of bottom. Ain't no 400 lb hog going to be able to run all day. Maybe a mile or two but not all day. Now a 175 to 275 boar can run all day.  It is a pretty entertaining thread.

I've got a few thousand acres we can run on just message me on here whenever you want to go

yeah rueben this was farm land that had been in the conservation program for 8 years when i leased the farm . there was several thousand acres in it and not hardley any hog hunters . them hogs had been coming out of the chambers bottoms and livin large ih them fields for years . and to top that off about five miles as the crow flys from the farm was bells branch ranch a high fence ranch that had imported full russions in the sixtys and they had been leaving that ranch for years . them hogs was ruff they would come greet you if you were out walking around and came up on them . they did that to me on many occaisions . and that is the main reason i went to killin em . ain't gonna tolerate nothin running me up a tree or out of the woods  lol

i will killa i'm just west of you over here by athens and canton 

Where you out of exactly halfbreed I'm in gun barrel

 :)

What kind of dogs are y'all running?? Are they rough??

hippy close enough to ya that i head that way when i'm outta wiskey lol  ;D

Yes all the dogs are rough

I gotta little yeller dog that just had pups a month ago... Give me a few weeks and I'll bring just her and we can see if one of them big boys will stay put for a very loose baying dog..

She ain't the best, but it's worth a shot!!   ;)