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Title: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: NLAhoghounds on September 19, 2012, 11:44:23 am
This topic is for me to gain some needed knowlegde about Dogo's, not to get anyones skirt blow up. I have been really considering getting one but i have no experience with the breed at all. My hunting buddies have strongly advised me to stay away from them. They say nothing is special about them and i have even heard one call them Nogo's. From what i have read about them they are sopose to be a very intelligent do it all dog but dont most people use them for just catch dogs? And the price of them as just pups can get you a almost finished or finished strike dog in some instances...So are they really worth all the money or they just a brainy catch dog? i would appreciate any feedback from the people who have had alot of time with dogos and how they compare against other dogs in this sport ???


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: Tomball Dogos on September 19, 2012, 11:55:41 am
I will say to do your home work on breeders that stand behind what they produce I have only been around the breed for five or so years  and all of my dogos work great for me but it all depends on your style of hunting IMO


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: t.wilbanks on September 19, 2012, 12:56:32 pm
Here is what I found special about them:


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: Easttex91 on September 19, 2012, 05:04:34 pm
You learn to use a .22 and a shovel when raising them  :D lol I really don't know but I've done more reading than most and everything you read about them leads you to believe they're just like any other breed but with more health problems and according to this website more culls.


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: MrsLouisianaHogDog on September 19, 2012, 06:37:52 pm
Here is what I found special about them:

I don't usually comment on stuff like this but I damned near spit my soda through my nose when I scrolled down and read this, LMFAO



Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: justincorbell on September 19, 2012, 06:56:49 pm
Here is what I found special about them:

I don't usually comment on stuff like this but I damned near spit my soda through my nose when I scrolled down and read this, LMFAO


Yea lol that one caught me off guard as well!!!

Well played twils, well played!!!!


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: T-Bob Parker on September 19, 2012, 07:23:14 pm
Here is what I found special about them:

I would like to add:


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: JRyanS on September 19, 2012, 07:44:44 pm
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h305/gixxertrix/securedownload-7.jpg)
Please dont start this thread!!!!!!! Lol!


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: MrsLouisianaHogDog on September 19, 2012, 07:49:22 pm
I think there's a handfull of Dogo owners on here, I'm sure some will chime in and maybe give you their insight with their experience with the breed.


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: Crossstock on September 19, 2012, 08:37:41 pm
I have a dogo pitbull cross that gets the job done... The dogo is no different than a bull dog... Everyone that likes bull dogs hate dogo's and the same goes for dogo owners.... The dogo will have more bottom than a bull dog also with a better nose... But there are some great bulldogs out there that can also run a hot track..... You will get the same thing if you talk about cats and yellow dogs... Man it really boiles down to what you want to hunt with.... Good luck


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: kevin on September 19, 2012, 08:42:21 pm
I think there's a handfull of Dogo owners on here, I'm sure some will chime in and maybe give you their insight with their experience with the breed.
       

Most won't bother...   too many ignorant internet hoghunters that make it not worth posting.


Title: Re: Whats special about a
Post by: Izz on September 20, 2012, 12:29:40 am
"just a bunch of F'n haters" thats all it is!
Dogos are just the same way as it is with other dogs.  Theres good ones and bad ones just like humans as well.  And just cause yal have experienced one that didnt work out yal wana bash the breed. Well if thats the ef'n case, id like to hear about yals 100% turn out ratings yal have with curs and cats and other breeds as well. Seems to me like everyone gets butthurt cause one dogo doesnt turn on when In the other hand you got more than half a litter of bay dogs that dont fully meet your expectaions. Which pretty much speaks for all the dogs on the dog trade classifieds.  O0


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: Sneaky Creek Kennel on September 20, 2012, 01:01:18 am
I have a dogo. When I started out I just had to have one. Did alittle research found a litter and bought one. A year and a half later I have him for sale. Has nothing to do with his catchin ability he catches good and holds and due to his size he can hold just about anything I'd guess. His size is the main reason I have him for sale. Where we hunt is briars thickets and bee brush a dog of his size can't get through nearly as easy as a 55 pound pit bull.  Next reason is still size. He weighs in at 100 pounds try throwing him over or gettin him through cross fences 55 pound pitbull wins again.  I will say as of now I haven't seen a dog with as much character as he has.  He's very well mannered leads like a champ.
I don't know if this will help you but that's my experience with Dogos.


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: sanantoniodogger on September 20, 2012, 01:50:29 am
iv seen lots of them that get barley hit and fall over like their balance is messed up ???.i always wonder why but iv seen alot of good crossed ones.
 


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: USHOG on September 20, 2012, 09:26:59 am


My number is 936-394- 2931 ask for Joe and we can talk about Dogos


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: MrsLouisianaHogDog on September 20, 2012, 10:12:30 am
I don't know....I don't think it's nessesarily that people "hate" on the breed. From things I have read, I gather that it's more of a "why pay such a large amount for one of these dogs, when it does basically the same thing a bulldog can do, with less feed on top of that" type deal. Maybe I'm wrong. I have nothing against them at all, I've never owned one. I have great bulldogs, and if I need a lil' extra size, I have a real dependable American Bulldog that has hellafied strength, size, and a great handle that gets the job done when need be. I personally just don't have the need to go spend bookoo bucks on a Dogo.


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: Tomball Dogos on September 20, 2012, 12:07:10 pm
I don't know....I don't think it's nessesarily that people "hate" on the breed. From things I have read, I gather that it's more of a "why pay such a large amount for one of these dogs, when it does basically the same thing a bulldog can do, with less feed on top of that" type deal. Maybe I'm wrong. I have nothing against them at all, I've never owned one. I have great bulldogs, and if I need a lil' extra size, I have a real dependable American Bulldog that has hellafied strength, size, and a great handle that gets the job done when need be. I personally just don't have the need to go spend bookoo bucks on a Dogo.
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I feed my dogos the same amount of feed as I do my curs and I know a hand full of bull dog people and to buy a pup from them is the same price I payed for my white dogs and I payed what I payed because of the way the dogs where bred but even that does not ensure that the dog will work but what does ensure that the dog will work is the people I get my dogs from they stand behind there dogs and will make it right with you of some thing does not work out


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: Nash on September 20, 2012, 06:17:13 pm
I have owned several dogos. The one thing they are good for is to make a cross to a pit or American bulldog. The pure ones I have had never satisfied me but cross them and they can out run your bay dogs and shut down a hog quick. Crossed is what I like just my 2 cents. I have a dogo female bred to my American male as of last week. Crossing them also takes away the deafness that they have. Gives you a level headed catch dog with more lung.


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: Izz on September 21, 2012, 12:37:56 am
I don't know....I don't think it's nessesarily that people "hate" on the breed. From things I have read, I gather that it's more of a "why pay such a large amount for one of these dogs, when it does basically the same thing a bulldog can do, with less feed on top of that" type deal. Maybe I'm wrong. I have nothing against them at all, I've never owned one. I have great bulldogs, and if I need a lil' extra size, I have a real dependable American Bulldog that has hellafied strength, size, and a great handle that gets the job done when need be. I personally just don't have the need to go spend bookoo bucks on a Dogo.
I completely understand, me personally id like to pack a 44mag(dogo) with me in the woods rather than packing a .22 caliber with shorts in it. Lol.  Thats another reason people bash em is cause the price on them. Im just gona stop before i get baned.


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: Peachcreek on September 21, 2012, 08:44:48 am
Here is what I found special about them:

Twil sometimes i dont like ur smart ars comments about my mutts but that comment was about as funny as they come!! ;)


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: bacon87 on September 21, 2012, 10:51:17 am
I have hunted with both.  From what i have seen the Dogo did just fine but when you lead in i could tell that the pit we have was way more aggressive.  The Dogo almost seemed timid and thought about how he was going to go about catching the pig.  The pit put the smack on the pig end of story. I have heard and read that they are bread to hunt in pack as running catch dogs, but i have come accross quite a few pigs that i wouldent want a bunch of dogs hanging on to for a while.  I just like the aggression of the pit, but have seen the Dogo do ok as a help dog. 


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: dodgegirl on September 21, 2012, 01:43:52 pm
Dogos have plenty of lung. My dogos stay on the ground with all the other dogs. My dogos are never timid when they get to catching a hog.


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: hansonw on September 24, 2012, 01:16:30 am
The only thing I would like to know is why are they so expensive? I am going to get one sooner or later bc I have a friend that is breeding his and it's not costing me anything. I have hunted with them and the only thing to me is there size but there are some leggy pits and abs out there. I guess it's just a personal preference but I think if you compared a great dogo to a great pit and a great ab there would be nothing different a real deal catch dog can be all kind of different breeds. It just easier for me to go with a pit or ab due to the price.


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: MrsLouisianaHogDog on September 24, 2012, 09:40:35 am
I think the price deters alot of folks too. Kinda like my Bull Terriers. When folks see me using mine for catching, the first thing they tend to say is 'Why you using such an expensive dog for that?!'



Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: dodgegirl on September 24, 2012, 12:51:47 pm
I think it had a lot to do with not a lot of people have dogos. There's way to many people that breed pits, so the price is lower. There's not an abundance of dogo breeders, that's why I think were able to ask so much for them.


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: MrsLouisianaHogDog on September 24, 2012, 03:06:04 pm
I think it had a lot to do with not a lot of people have dogos. There's way to many people that breed pits, so the price is lower. There's not an abundance of dogo breeders, that's why I think were able to ask so much for them.

We have some bulldogs here now that go for the price of a Dogo.....we have some old blood here that is almost no longer in existance, but yeah, you are correct, there are indeed alot of folks breeding scatterbred 'pit bulls' nowadays.....every dang shelter you go to is full of 'em, it's quite sad.

Bull Terriers have also managed to hold their high price tag as well. Not too many of them around either, ESPECIALLY not many being worked.

How's them new pups of yours doin? You ever get any pics up of 'em? I may have missed 'em....


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: Bawl Mouth on September 24, 2012, 05:23:13 pm
The price is set that way because the market is not yet flooded with them like other breeds, and breeders will want to keep it that way. Thats why guys that get 2500 a pup will turn around and give one to a friend, its not necessarily the money, its control of the market. they are a relatively new breed. As for how good they are, I have only hunted with a few, but they were damn good! I have two dogo crosses that are awsome strike dogs, and a half dogo lead in. No coincidence to me that they have extremely desirable temperment and ability. I was not a believer till I got these three


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: dodgegirl on September 24, 2012, 05:49:15 pm
The pups from our last litter are all doing good getting big. I'll have to post some updated pics of them & my pup I had shopped from Argentina. Bambino is looking real good. Growing like a weed. Ears are all healed up.


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: MrsLouisianaHogDog on September 24, 2012, 09:03:06 pm
The pups from our last litter are all doing good getting big. I'll have to post some updated pics of them & my pup I had shopped from Argentina. Bambino is looking real good. Growing like a weed. Ears are all healed up.

Oooooh Bambino is the one from the recent crop thread...I got it. He's a good lookin puppy for sure....


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: dogo24 on September 25, 2012, 12:04:20 am
i have a dogo and love the way he hunts and catches , but ill be the first to say that there is nothing "SPECIAL" about him ...... has a good nose and lots of lung , other than that hes just another dog .  he does the same job that my pit used to do just with less stiches !   if you get a crappy dog then you'll hate it , get a good one and you'll love it !  you can say that about any breed of dog !


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: dogo24 on September 25, 2012, 12:07:56 am
best thing to do is get a dogo and cross it with a bmc , then cross the pup with another bmc , then another ...... then another ..... then another , until the ears get longer , body gets shorter , and the white coat turns yella ! lol


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: TColt on September 26, 2012, 12:04:47 am
Dogos are a bull dog, but I treat mine like a cur dog that is strait catch. If you get a good one they can be very versatile dogs. Sometimes I hunt mine alone, sometimes they run with the curs, sometimes they get sent from the truck, sometimes they are lead in cd.

The only reason the price of dogos is so high is because with dogos, all people see a big pretty white dog and then nothing but dollar signs. There are some good breeders out there that won't charge an arm and a leg for a good hunting dogo pup, but they are few and far between.

Another problem is, breeders don't prove their stock. Its all about the "investment" and protecting the "investment". So someone gets a pup for however much, they either don't prove it or it turns out to be a cull, but they breed it anyway to get a return on their "investment", and all they do is produce sub par dogs with sub par dogs. In my opinion, if the dog aint proven or it is a cull, then the "great big white investment" might as well be a great big white roll of toilet paper.

Now what has happened, is these people with sub par dogs that are their "breeders", are putting sub par dogs in other peoples hands (for a substantial amount of money), the dog doesn't turn out, and those people bad mouth the dogo. Do I blame them for bad mouthing the dogo? Heck no, I would too if I was in that position. Am I saying that breeding proven dogs to proven dogs is fool proof? No, there is culls in every breed in every breeding (usually). Look at game dogs, people have been trying to consistently breed "game" into their dogs for hundreds of years without 100% turn out. True gameness is rare in any breed, but breeding for a return on an "investment" damn sure doesn't help the cause.


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: Melonhead on September 26, 2012, 05:45:49 am
Couldn't agree more, Taylor


Title: Re: Whats special about a Dogo?
Post by: bignasty on September 27, 2012, 09:47:44 am
 rolleyes