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Title: Perry Dogs
Post by: TexasHogDogs on October 04, 2012, 06:19:16 pm
Hows the Ike dog Mr Perry owns and the Rat gyp ?

Anybody know?  I hear really good things about these dogs.



Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: E barnes on October 04, 2012, 07:28:39 pm
Ike got ran over a couple weeks ago and Mr perry sold Rat. I have to pups out of them they are good looking suckers have high hopes for them.


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: c.hykel on October 04, 2012, 07:34:04 pm
I have a pup out of rat and Ike. And I also bought the rat dog two weeks ago.


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: TexasHogDogs on October 04, 2012, 07:37:33 pm
I ended up with one also a brother to yours.  Sure is a nice pup .  I also got some high hopes for this pup if he turns out with this history behind him I want to make a cross into my dogs here main reason I wanted him.  Sure is a nice pup.  Is the Ike dog gone now it killed him ???


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: BA-IV on October 04, 2012, 07:38:05 pm
I have a pup out of rat and Ike. And I also bought the rat dog two weeks ago.

I'd like to see the Rat dog if you wouldn't mind posting a picture.


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: c.hykel on October 04, 2012, 07:41:17 pm
I ended up with one also a brother to yours.  Sure is a nice pup .  I also got some high hopes for this pup if he turns out with this history behind him I want to make a cross into my dogs here main reason I wanted him.  Sure is a nice pup.  Is the Ike dog gone now it killed him ???
. Yes it got killed. Mr perry was pretty upset it. Got hit right in front of his house


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: TexasHogDogs on October 04, 2012, 07:45:18 pm
Man o man I know that hurt woo wee dang it man right in front of the house .  I bet he was upset I imagine that dont even describe it .


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: c.hykel on October 04, 2012, 08:03:04 pm
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Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: BA-IV on October 04, 2012, 08:08:11 pm
That's a good looking gyp, looks like alot of em do...How's she hunt?


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: c.hykel on October 04, 2012, 08:13:43 pm
That's a good looking gyp, looks like alot of em do...How's she hunt?
. Well she a weird dog. Her being so close to mr perry she doesn't like to be messed with by strange pple. she will bite.   I just got her coming to me real well gunna make the first hunt Saturday morning. Ty Angel can tell you more on how she hunts.


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: cantexduck on October 04, 2012, 09:03:08 pm
Almost got one of those male pups but grabed a black 6 month male instead.


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: c.hykel on October 04, 2012, 09:11:58 pm
Almost got one of those male pups but grabed a black 6 month male instead.
. What color was that dog. 


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: BA-IV on October 04, 2012, 09:19:44 pm
It'd be black unless I'm missing something.


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: c.hykel on October 04, 2012, 09:28:54 pm
Ebarns Texashogdog. I'd like to see them pups if y'all got any pic. I'll try to post some of mine. That's if he stand still long enough


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: cward on October 04, 2012, 11:41:03 pm
I hunted behind rat and sue baby.  I bred another brindle gyp to my ike dog for Mr. Perry.


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: E barnes on October 05, 2012, 12:53:00 am
Yeah I will try to get a pic up of them going out of town probably be Monday but they are little balls of fire Lol.


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: cantexduck on October 05, 2012, 05:08:53 am
I hunted behind rat and sue baby.  I bred another brindle gyp to my ike dog for Mr. Perry.

  When you say another do you mean recently ? Or a while back ?


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: TShelly on October 05, 2012, 05:31:35 am
I hunted behind rat and sue baby.  I bred another brindle gyp to my ike dog for Mr. Perry.

  When you say another do you mean recently ? Or a while back ?


Whirly :) your favorite! So you did but the black male pup. You little sneak


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: TShelly on October 05, 2012, 05:39:08 am
We hunted behind both. Good dogs,they are very attached to that old man and hunt a little differently. Very fast. 

Mr. Perry brought Ike and Rat the day we hunted. We brought Briar and boogie. Briar bayed a Barr hog by hisself, boogie went and bayed a big sow. Ike and Rat found one but couldn't get theirs stopped. They hunted deep, just quite didn't have the bottom our two dogs did. Briar and Rat ran another hog for a good while, Rat ended up quiting and coming to us. After another 1.5 hrs we were way off from where we should have been and mr. Perry asked us to call briar off the track to avoid trouble


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: cantexduck on October 05, 2012, 05:46:46 am
I hunted behind rat and sue baby.  I bred another brindle gyp to my ike dog for Mr. Perry.

  When you say another do you mean recently ? Or a while back ?


Whirly :) your favorite! So you did but the black male pup. You little sneak

 I figured that was the case. A six month old dog that hunt out like he did, I would of been dumb to say no. 


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: TShelly on October 05, 2012, 05:53:25 am
I hunted behind rat and sue baby.  I bred another brindle gyp to my ike dog for Mr. Perry.

  When you say another do you mean recently ? Or a while back ?


Whirly :) your favorite! So you did but the black male pup. You little sneak

 I figured that was the case. A six month old dog that hunt out like he did, I would of been dumb to say no. 

Yeah he sounded nice, how's he doing so far? Lexi is about to pop. You might get you another black pup if there are enough


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: cantexduck on October 06, 2012, 08:19:56 pm
  Haven't fooled much with him. He will bay anything it seems. Will work this winter on him a bunch.
  I Will keep a spot open. Doesn't have to be black, I Will hunt anything.


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: T-Bob Parker on October 06, 2012, 08:43:28 pm


Yeah he sounded nice, how's he doing so far? Lexi is about to pop. You might get you another black pup if there are enough

Ehemm. You get one come out all ugly and red I'll chew thru my chain to get at em.  ;)


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: TexasHogDogs on October 07, 2012, 10:39:53 am
Perry pup.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q307/TexasHogDogs/pupshornwhitey1.jpg)

and his two buddys.
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q307/TexasHogDogs/pupshornwhitey.jpg)


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: cantexduck on October 07, 2012, 12:32:34 pm
Jimmy, is That top pup from the same litter as the two others ?


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: Lance on October 07, 2012, 12:47:07 pm
Jimmy that top pup has got Perry written all over him ! Sure looks good ! He should cross over real good on the Joe dogs.


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: t.wilbanks on October 07, 2012, 01:22:50 pm
Jimmy that top pup has got Perry written all over him

How can you tell?



Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: TexasHogDogs on October 07, 2012, 02:18:22 pm
The top black pup with tan markings is the Perry pup the other two is about the same age as him off my Horn dog x the Whitey gyp.   They are starting to turn the color of their grand mother ole Blu which was what I was hoping for .

Lance I am really really hoping this perry pup will turn out great because if he does thats excatly what am going to do.  Breed him one day to one of the,  if not tightest Joe bred gyps alive the Hannah Montanna gyp she is off of CO and her mother is a daughter of my ole Blu gyp that is three times off of Joe.  Hannah is also the same color as this perry pup maybe help some of that dominate solid black get  back in to the Perry dogs.


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: Lance on October 07, 2012, 03:36:04 pm
Jimmy that top pup has got Perry written all over him

How can you tell?


He's colored up like a couple others I've seen that came from Mr. Perry is what I'm getting at.


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: t.wilbanks on October 07, 2012, 04:02:00 pm
Jimmy that top pup has got Perry written all over him

How can you tell?


He's colored up like a couple others I've seen that came from Mr. Perry is what I'm getting at.

Thought there might have been a certain characteristic about them that you noticed...

I've seen some dogs with Perry blood that when put beside others from the same blood you would never guess they were related... Lots of variation from what I guess you would call different strains of Perry dogs...



Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: TexasHogDogs on October 07, 2012, 04:32:04 pm
I will be the first to admit I dont know a whole lot about these Black Perry dogs but everything that I have heard from real dog men and read about is really great things .  I love family bred performace dogs by people that know what they are doing and I cant wait to find out I hope with this pup I got here.  Anyway from what am told there is not many are as many solid black are almost solid black dogs coming from this line much any more.  I assume most were black when this line was started are I may be wrong somebody correct me if I am. 

What am getting at is were did the solid black go to in these dogs if it is getting less and less as the years have went on, with black being a dominate color ????????

Just trying to learn a little bit here about the line of dogs now dont no body go take this the wrong way and throw a smart ass comment in here because it is not needed.  I love black dogs myself and will try to work with this one I got to get the black back dominate again .  I know color dont mean chit but I like black dogs .


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: t.wilbanks on October 07, 2012, 05:01:12 pm
http://www.easttexashogdoggers.com/forum/index.php?topic=34855.0

Good read on Perry dogs...



Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: t.wilbanks on October 07, 2012, 05:09:20 pm
Just from the first quotes from the book, you got black,blue,red, walkers, leopards...

They bred what worked...  ;)


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: cantexduck on October 07, 2012, 05:52:00 pm
 He bred his Ike dog which was yellow a few times. The first time I went to his house there was a spotted dog that was his blood there. He skips the looks and breeds for the hunt. The jackazz he talks about in the books is really there too.


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: TexasHogDogs on October 07, 2012, 07:43:40 pm
Yes the color don't mean a thing and thats why the Ole man has such great success with his bloodline of dogs.  What happens is you breed best to best and keep doing it and then later on make a bloodline out of it then you got something yes I agree 110 percent.  Then if a man wants to get picky about color that his deal.

Thats why I like the dogs that I own that come from Cole McVeays old Joe line of dogs the man don't BS if it don't hunt and hunt right its gone makes no difference who the dog is out of are were he comes from.  Also I have known Shane, Coles brother for years now and he is the same way maybe a little worse if the dog twitches when he should have jerked and it dont suit his ways the dog is gone , this is what makes great dogs and great bloodlines being pictular and dont shy from it.  I turst Shane's and his bother Coles eye and knowledge for a dog if either one of them tells me its a dog then its a dog.  The Rat dog Shane bought from Mr Perry paid big money for the gyp and she had her quirk about her she was kinda nippy and shy a one man kinda dog which most really good ones do have some kind of quirk about than but when I ask what she was he said a one hell of a hog dog and he told me this more than once.  Hunted good got out good range did her thing found hogs and was a really really good gyp and the main thing he said  that I liked about her was,   he said she would flat shut down a big hard runner .  The thing was I think she hunted different than what Shane and his dogs hunts which that is understandeable because she was born and raise by someone that hunts totally different than Shane and his dogs that was the only draw back she had to her  and of course that is not a fault of the dogs just different ways of hunting and the dog being trained.  Myself my dogs don't have any problems finding hogs if they are in the area they are not safe. My dogs are some what gritty put teeth on big boar hogs some we stop some we don't but from what I was told the Rat dog and the Perry dogs it is one of there best traits and that is why I wanted this pup to mix the Perry traits with this Joe blood traits that I have here .  The ole Blu gyp I got in daughter of Joe in my opinion is one of the best cur dogs I have ever seen on a big hog Shane , Cole and I think Mr Bounds will tell you the same thing but she is getting old and now retired and now and this traits  is now showing up in her offspring and her grand offspring and mixing it with something like the Perry gene pool am hoping has a high rate of success in trying to shut down bigger type of boar hogs because my dogs have it but its not refined yet and lets be honest about it who would not want that sweet spot in the middle of not to gritty and not to much back off and a big boar hogs nuts dragging on the floor of the hog trailer when it is all said and done.

Who knows it may work but if it don't it is not for my lack of trying !


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: DIAMOND A KENNELS on October 07, 2012, 10:06:06 pm
Mr perry has some nice dogs up until last month we hunted once to twice a week together and he is a amazing man and they don't make them like him anymore I have to say one of the reasons his dogs hunt like they do is because of the time and dedication with his dogs he hunts 5 days a week unless he is sick or has a book signing he would hunt 7 days a week but he is a man of god and will not hunt Sundays or Wenesdays for the most part he is a true houndsman he knows his dogs and how to make them work we own tinker bell and when we first bought her we had our doubts but I can say she started passing ol Ike up after we had a few months she has fell right in with our dogs and is hard to get by now even mr perry has been impressed in how she has turned it on !! But there is one gyp over there that sticks out in my mind is little sue baby I have watched her the last 8-7 monthes and when she wasnt even a year old she was doing things most peoples 5-6 year old dogs were doin she is a superstar in her own and I have begged to buy her but he won't sell her and I can't say I blame him cause I know he seen what I've seen in her !! But if u buy a perry dog be prepared to take ur time and be patient cause it will take them awhile to warm up to you but when they do u will be satisfied !!!


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: c.hykel on October 08, 2012, 12:19:03 am
Well I will be the first to say that it takes time for the perry dogs. I bought a gyp a year and half ago and she has her good days and she has her bad days.  I own the rat gyp for two weeks and I hunted her for the first time Saturday. Yes we caught a good boar did she hunt like she does for mr. Perry hell no.  But hunted her again Sunday and she hunted awsome. We caught seven hogs and bayed a group of hogs together. As soon as we got one caught she rolled off to go get another one. That gyp that I bought from lyod in the pass never hunted for me like she did Sunday.  Her and rat did an amazing job and couldn't be happier. 


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: khildreth on October 09, 2012, 10:15:16 am
I hunted behind Ike for a long time when William Mellman had him and also hunted with the rat gyp. As far as Rat goes the few times I hunted with her all I can say is when she gets turned loose back in that country behind Mr. Perrys house you better hope your tracking system is working because she would get gone in a hurry. We were hunting in the middle of the summer so she couldnt stay with a running hog as well as I believe she normally would but I saw her several times leave the 4 wheeler and go up to 2 miles and get bayed within just a few min.   


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: BA-IV on October 09, 2012, 12:25:13 pm
From all accounts, the perry dogs are some real good dogs. I like a dog that rolls off well, hunts deep, and has a cold nose.  That's how them dogs are suppose to be so of course I always like hearing abou them.

I will say this though, I learned the hard way that you can NEVER judge a dog based on how they hunt on their home turf.  A dog will do amazing things in country that they are real familiar in and then be average when you get them away from there home range. Now the perry dogs seem to be one man type dogs so it's hard to buy anything but a young dog and expect them to hunt for you right off.


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: c.hykel on October 09, 2012, 01:31:36 pm
From all accounts, the perry dogs are some real good dogs. I like a dog that rolls off well, hunts deep, and has a cold nose.  That's how them dogs are suppose to be so of course I always like hearing abou them.

I will say this though, I learned the hard way that you can NEVER judge a dog based on how they hunt on their home turf.  A dog will do amazing things in country that they are real familiar in and then be average when you get them away from there home range. Now the perry dogs seem to be one man type dogs so it's hard to buy anything but a young dog and expect them to hunt for you right off.
Very true.  These dogs just need time spent with them. When I bought rat she went everywhere with me.  Is she hunting like she does for lyod. No. But she getting adjusted to me real well and now finally getting a good handle on her. These dogs don't like a lot of commotion and alot of noise. If you go to yelling and hollering you can damn sure tell the difference. But with time put in they are good dogs. And when you got the quarks worked out they perform great.


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: t.wilbanks on October 09, 2012, 02:12:26 pm
One thing I'm noticing is that quite a few of them suckers sure ain't scared to bite you!!!


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: c.hykel on October 09, 2012, 02:40:56 pm
One thing I'm noticing is that quite a few of them suckers sure ain't scared to bite you!!!
Lol that aient no lie.


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: BA-IV on October 09, 2012, 03:04:48 pm
One thing I'm noticing is that quite a few of them suckers sure ain't scared to bite you!!!

My kinda dogs. I don't mind a dog at all that will eat somebody's a$$ up.


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: Reuben on October 09, 2012, 07:45:52 pm
From all accounts, the perry dogs are some real good dogs. I like a dog that rolls off well, hunts deep, and has a cold nose.  That's how them dogs are suppose to be so of course I always like hearing abou them.

I will say this though, I learned the hard way that you can NEVER judge a dog based on how they hunt on their home turf.  A dog will do amazing things in country that they are real familiar in and then be average when you get them away from there home range. Now the perry dogs seem to be one man type dogs so it's hard to buy anything but a young dog and expect them to hunt for you right off.
Very true.  These dogs just need time spent with them. When I bought rat she went everywhere with me.  Is she hunting like she does for lyod. No. But she getting adjusted to me real well and now finally getting a good handle on her. These dogs don't like a lot of commotion and alot of noise. If you go to yelling and hollering you can damn sure tell the difference. But with time put in they are good dogs. And when you got the quarks worked out they perform great.

some of the best hunting dogs I have owned didn't trust strangers and didn't like folks going beserk and crazy hollering when a pig was caught...some can be gritty as heck on a hog but leary of loud folks and easy handling a must...no heavy hand and no gunfire unless accustomed to it...


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: sdillard on October 10, 2012, 07:04:57 am
Im sorry but biting is a big no no for me i dont care how good a dog it is! If it bites or even act like it wants to bite it wont make it around me.


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: Lacy man on October 10, 2012, 07:06:32 am
Im sorry but biting is a big no no for me i dont care how good a dog it is! If it bites or even act like it wants to bite it wont make it around me.

X2 it ll stay wherever we re huntin if it bites me


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: cward on October 10, 2012, 12:35:51 pm
I love a mean dog. If they bite they are special.


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: Reuben on October 10, 2012, 01:05:26 pm
I love a mean dog. If they bite they are special.

 ??? ;D


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: jdt on October 10, 2012, 09:03:24 pm
you can't blame them old time curdogs for biting , hell if i don't know you and you stick your hand in my face or try to grab me , you  WILL draw back a nub .  ;D

them dogs were bred for along time to find and bay cattle and hogs- AND protect the homeplace from ALL intruders .  ;)


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: TexasHogDogs on October 10, 2012, 09:07:27 pm
A Real Performace Animal is a different Animal from just a Animal of their kind !!!!!!!!!!!!

You better believe that !


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: T-Bob Parker on October 10, 2012, 10:43:46 pm
Im sorry but biting is a big no no for me i dont care how good a dog it is! If it bites or even act like it wants to bite it wont make it around me.

X2 it ll stay wherever we re huntin if it bites me

Tell you what, hunt with a pack of dogs who routinely place in the top 5 in most every statewide hunting contest their entered in and you'll learn to just not reach for another mans dog.  :D

And I'm not only talking about one persons pack. There are several men all the way up and down east Texas whose dogs routinely place, ad if you do enough diggin, you'll find most of them trace back to the same original cross around Huntsville I believe.


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: T-Bob Parker on October 10, 2012, 10:48:45 pm
Tell you what, hunt with a pack of dogs who routinely place in the top 5 in most every statewide hunting contest their entered in and you'll learn to just not reach for another mans dog.  :D

And I'm not only talking about one persons pack. There are several men all the way up and down east Texas whose dogs routinely place, ad if you do enough diggin, you'll find most of them trace back to the same original cross around Huntsville I believe.

Oh and it ain't a yellow or black or red dog thing, the talented dogs in this extended family of dogs come in a variety of colors (I actually believe a few dogs who are called different bloodline names originated with the same cross.


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: TShelly on October 11, 2012, 07:32:20 am
Im sorry but biting is a big no no for me i dont care how good a dog it is! If it bites or even act like it wants to bite it wont make it around me.

X2 it ll stay wherever we re huntin if it bites me

Tell you what, hunt with a pack of dogs who routinely place in the top 5 in most every statewide hunting contest their entered in and you'll learn to just not reach for another mans dog.  :D

And I'm not only talking about one persons pack. There are several men all the way up and down east Texas whose dogs routinely place, ad if you do enough diggin, you'll find most of them trace back to the same original cross around Huntsville I believe.

I agree.. Woodruffs ranch seems to have played a significant roll in at least 3 different bloodlines that are on this site still going strong.  Chance grew up around old man woodruff and those dogs. I believe his originated there. BigO had a critical breeding in his blood when a gyp was bred to Coaly and BigBoy was produced. As well as Big E's line of dogs. When old man woodruff died, Curtis Bennett took over the hog hunting and cattle work in Woodruffs. He owned a dog named Jasper that he bred to Herchell Perry's Dixie dog. From it CB was created. CB was Blasters sire and Girlfriends Grand-sire.

Pretty cool how so many critical lines originated or played part with one big ranch on the Trinity River. There are also other extremely good lines of dogs that were affected by this ranch. I know the Murray's out of cold springs had dogs that were from Woodruffs, or essentially CB.

Does anyone on this site know any information about the Jasper dog that was bred to Dixie to produce CB????????

 This is about the only piece of the bloodline we can't trace back 25+ years


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: t.wilbanks on October 11, 2012, 08:49:06 am
Tony, you have done a good job popularizing these dogs...

I'm curious to see how many "Perry" dogs start showing up in the dog trade before too long..  ;D


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: reatj81 on October 11, 2012, 08:53:02 am
Tony, you have done a good job popularizing these dogs...

I'm curious to see how many "Perry" dogs start showing up in the dog trade before too long..  ;D


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: sdillard on October 11, 2012, 09:13:02 am

Tell you what, hunt with a pack of dogs who routinely place in the top 5 in most every statewide hunting contest their entered in and you'll learn to just not reach for another mans dog.  :D

And I'm not only talking about one persons pack. There are several men all the way up and down east Texas whose dogs routinely place, ad if you do enough diggin, you'll find most of them trace back to the same original cross around Huntsville I believe.
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I dont care how good of dogs they are if they bite they wont live around my place! I have a little boy and no dog is worth the chance of him getting bit! U can have all the allstar biting dogs you want there not for me!


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: TShelly on October 11, 2012, 09:29:33 am
Tony, you have done a good job popularizing these dogs...

I'm curious to see how many "Perry" dogs start showing up in the dog trade before too long..  ;D

Hopefully not too many bc then they'll become watered down like most dogs for sell on the dog trade. Most of the people that own some are in it for the dogs and not the $$$ to be made. I'm not trying to popularize them, just trying to find out as much knowledge on the dogs we can. To me it's cool seeing how many dogs go back and are related to the perry dogs in one shape, form or another. The line I get to hunt behind is just a branch of the tree that started back in the 50's. there are many other branches that have just as colorful backgrounds and good dogs. We really ony have one perry dog that ours go back to. That was the ace of Spades Dixie, so it's hard to even say the ones we hunt are perry dogs. I would call ours more Woodruffs with perry blood in their past


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: t.wilbanks on October 11, 2012, 09:53:06 am
Well theres always a bad apple ( cough.. T bob... Cough cough ) that gets ahold of something good and screws it up... Chance found out he was doing the same thing with our bullchit breed...

 ;D


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: c.hykel on October 11, 2012, 10:12:21 am
Tony, you have done a good job popularizing these dogs...

I'm curious to see how many "Perry" dogs start showing up in the dog trade before too long..  ;D

Hopefully not too many bc then they'll become watered down like most dogs for sell on the dog trade. Most of the people that own some are in it for the dogs and not the $$$ to be made. I'm not trying to popularize them, just trying to find out as much knowledge on the dogs we can. To me it's cool seeing how many dogs go back and are related to the perry dogs in one shape, form or another. The line I get to hunt behind is just a branch of the tree that started back in the 50's. there are many other branches that have just as colorful backgrounds and good dogs. We really ony have one perry dog that ours go back to. That was the ace of Spades Dixie, so it's hard to even say the ones we hunt are perry dogs. I would call ours more Woodruffs with perry blood in their past
.  I agree some people are in it for great dog work and love the sport of hog hunting not making money. 


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: T-Bob Parker on October 11, 2012, 10:20:02 am
Well theres always a bad apple ( cough.. T bob... Cough cough ) that gets ahold of something good and screws it up... Chance found out he was doing the same thing with our bullchit breed...

 ;D

There hasn't been any screwing going on with my two gyps I can assure you of that.


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: t.wilbanks on October 11, 2012, 10:25:14 am
Well theres always a bad apple ( cough.. T bob... Cough cough ) that gets ahold of something good and screws it up... Chance found out he was doing the same thing with our bullchit breed...

 ;D

There hasn't been any screwing going on with my two gyps I can assure you of that.

 ;D good to hear you've been keeping you hands to yourself!!


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: TShelly on October 11, 2012, 12:18:07 pm
Jimmy it's been hell keeping the solid black ones alive but we've been successful in the last few years at getting a young crew of crows going. Hopefully I have some more hitting the ground anyday

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Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: Lacy man on October 11, 2012, 01:43:20 pm
Good lookin dogs


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: TexasHogDogs on October 11, 2012, 03:44:20 pm
Those are some really fine fine great looking black dogs TShelly.  I have myself always admired a great black dog this goes back threw all of my time with the bulldogs also.  For some reason the blacks just always seemed to have the edge some way are another.  If I can get this little Perry dog I got here up and doing his thing I got the perfect bitch to breed him to that liter should really really produce some super kinda of black dogs if I can keep myself from hunting her and getting her killed before I can get her bred to him.


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: Reuben on October 11, 2012, 07:21:02 pm


Hopefully not too many bc then they'll become watered down like most dogs for sell on the dog trade. Most of the people that own some are in it for the dogs and not the $$$ to be made. I'm not trying to popularize them, just trying to find out as much knowledge on the dogs we can. To me it's cool seeing how many dogs go back and are related to the perry dogs in one shape, form or another. The line I get to hunt behind is just a branch of the tree that started back in the 50's. there are many other branches that have just as colorful backgrounds and good dogs. We really ony have one perry dog that ours go back to. That was the ace of Spades Dixie, so it's hard to even say the ones we hunt are perry dogs. I would call ours more Woodruffs with perry blood in their past
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a few folks I have talked to in the past have said that the Melman and Perry dogs were bred for working cattle and hogs...the type that went deep in the woods to find cattle and that these dogs were often crossed with other good dogs of other breeds at different times...it seems to me that breeding this way will get good dogs but the percentages of good dogs from pups produced won't be as high...and one perry dog back in the pedigree does not make the dog of today a perry dog...but working these dogs daily for sure identifies what dogs are worthy of breeding...

one of these days I would like to hunt behind a pair of great perry or melman curs...I am sure that the good ones are as good as they say they are...it is always a pleasure to hunt behind great dogs...


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: DIAMOND A KENNELS on October 11, 2012, 08:25:55 pm


Hopefully not too many bc then they'll become watered down like most dogs for sell on the dog trade. Most of the people that own some are in it for the dogs and not the $$$ to be made. I'm not trying to popularize them, just trying to find out as much knowledge on the dogs we can. To me it's cool seeing how many dogs go back and are related to the perry dogs in one shape, form or another. The line I get to hunt behind is just a branch of the tree that started back in the 50's. there are many other branches that have just as colorful backgrounds and good dogs. We really ony have one perry dog that ours go back to. That was the ace of Spades Dixie, so it's hard to even say the ones we hunt are perry dogs. I would call ours more Woodruffs with perry blood in their past

a few folks I have talked to in the past have said that the Melman and Perry dogs were bred for working cattle and hogs...the type that went deep in the woods to find cattle and that these dogs were often crossed with other good dogs of other breeds at different times...it seems to me that breeding this way will get good dogs but the percentages of good dogs from pups produced won't be as high...and one perry dog back in the pedigree does not make the dog of today a perry dog...but working these dogs daily for sure identifies what dogs are worthy of breeding...

one of these days I would like to hunt behind a pair of great perry or melman curs...I am sure that the good ones are as good as they say they are...it is always a pleasure to hunt behind great dogs...
[/quote]I have a pair and your more than welcome to come watch them work !!


Title: Re: Perry Dogs
Post by: c.hykel on October 11, 2012, 09:20:55 pm
(http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg619/chykel/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_6869.jpg)  This is lyod my new pup out of mr perry rat gyp and the late Ike.  got high hopes just like everyone eles does.  He was the runt of the litter.