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I have had both dogs n like both of them only jus what other people's opinions are on the breed n information. Y they feel the way they do I got a male dogo they don't seem to be an tenacious as a pit jus wondering if good working line dogos instead of watered down show dogs are more than Wat they seem

i use pits and only because its too expensive to replace a dogo when and if it happens, i had two dogos out of some good hunting stock, i know that the dogo is breed to hunt, they have a mix of hounds and terriers in them the bulldog look does not mean they r a bulldog i see people leading them in when the potential for an excelllent strike dog is there they have a very cold nose. these r the dogs that make a dogo, irish setter, english bulldog, great dane, bull mastiff, boxer great white pyrenese, english pointer, i think i got it all n there but the two i had were ground dogs and would strike and catch there own hogs great with my other dogs but i paid 2000 for them they were both fataly injured on the same hogs they have no fear and ran in  a group down in a dry creek bank i guess mating cuz there were like 5 big boars and three or 4 sows and that was  that they were very aggresive hunters and lovers at home never no problems with my other dogs but maybe not every case hope that helps

forgot that the base of this breed was the cordoba fighting dog i thinks thas how you spell it

Use the search function you will find all kinda Dogo vs pitbull threads

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DOGO DOGO DOGO DOGO  :)

American bulldog

Pittbull 200%

Specific reason for choice

Dogos are strong loyal dogs that will find bay and catch a hog

Well I got cut dogs for finding and baying n a catch dog for catching I need something that has one soul purpose to catch n I've hunted ab and pits and recently a dogo the best one over ever had is a ab pit cross I was jus curious if I the Dogo I got was jus less tenacious or if all of them are like that

amen

I'll take any of my dogos over a pit every day of the week. Don't get me wrong I've hunted with some good pits, hell I even have a pit mix. But in my eyes nothing compares to the catching power of a dogo. They have so much heart, they're very loyal, they have enough lung to be a strike dog, not just a lead in catch dog. People base their opinions off of one or two bad dogos. If you hunt with a well bred dogo, you will see that they have NO fear. They're very intelligent, also they are great with children and if you socialize them as their growing up, they are great with other dogs.

Well if ur a believer like that than in open to hear bout it if u could show me a Dogo with the tenacity and heart of a pit I'd like to see it or get a pup out of that line

My pops breeds them in fl. We had a litter not to long ago sold all of the pups. There's some pics on here some where.

I just recently got a new puppy from La Cocha kennels in cordoba Argentina. Where the dogo was created. They are actually family member to the man who created the dogo. Very well bred real deal dogo. Not your average watered down back yard bred dogo. My pup is the son of Morocho a very well known dogo. He was used to show the breed on dogs 101.

 http://www.noresdogoargentino.com.ar/ingles/criadero.htm

That's the link to their website. They have pups ready to go now. Very nice people they will email you back within two days.

Bambino de La Cocha 4months

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Ok I sure preciate it man I'll def look Into it

i wouldnt compare a mastiff to a terrier  ;)

Well a Dogo is classified as a hound but I've seen pits and ab big as Dogo before but without the stamina a Dogo has this comes from personnel experience I own all three of the breeds and all catch hogs jus my Dogo isn't near as gamey so to speak as a pit but can last a lot longer on those hot days

dogos are by no means in a class with a hound. they are labeled as Argentine Mastiff.

Sorry not tryin to be offensive but that info is incorrect they are classified as a working hound in a real classification of breeds

GO to YouTube and look up dogs 101 on a Dogo Many people referr to then as a mastiff even websites but in actuallity they were bred as a hound

nothing taken to offense but the breed is hardly a hound. i can show you hounds all day every day. ive owned a dogo/pit as a yard dog and loved him but no where is it close to a hound. it may have hound blood but they are more to a mastiff.

i can waiver when im wrong but no where in writing can a dogo be a hound

I agree they hardly look like a hound n many consider them a mastiff but when the breed originated it was in the hound class look at all hounds not jus the ones from around here few look the same as a generic hound we think of

Dogos are not considered a hound. They are apart of the mastiff group. They are known as the "Dogo Argentino" or an "Argentine Mastiff".

Well if I had a Dogo, I'd prefer it have a hound bawl when it bays...  ;)

trent yours would come out a ugly yella

a dogo is from what i have understood from the breeder that i bought my two from and just looked it up from the man who breed the dog the dogo is a hound not trying to go back and forth but i say hound and so do the two brothers who breed the dogs antonio nores martinez and agustin nores martinez i quote "The Dogo Argentino is an endurance hound much like his Irish
 Wolfhound ancestor. He is expected to track the wild boar across vast
 pampas, corner the animal and attack and hold it for the hunters. He is
 capable of dazzling bursts of speed for short distances, but his forte
 is covering long distances at a gallop (hence the arched loins to give
 impetus at the gallop). Having cornered the boar, he must have enough
 strength in reserve to attack and hold a wild boar weighing up to 400
 pounds. In a traditional boar hunt the hunter will jump on the boar and
 kill it with a knife thrust to the heart while the Dogos are locked on
 with a death grip."

Where did you get your dogo from?

yes your right. they have hound blood in them. but they are not hounds. the scent is from the bird dog. the gamey traits are from the wolfhound. but they are not hounds. when those fellas were building that dog they might have wanted a hound but they built a mastiff.  ;D

these are hounds ;D
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The dogo was started with the "fighting dog of cordoba". They have hound mixed in them but they aren't considered a hound. If they wanted to create a hound I would imagine they would have used a hound as a base dog.

Bet there would be a good market for yellow Dogos...  :)

Some Quick Facts:


Life Expectancy:
10-12 years

Energy Level:
Higher than average.

Living Conditions:
Flexible; but needs outdoor exercise.

Barking:
Average.

Exercise Needs:
Daily 20 minute run or 45 minute walk.

Breed Group:
Hound

Size:
Large

Height:
24 to 27 inches

Weight:
80 to 100 pounds

Standard Hair Colors:
 White

National breed club:
Dogo Argentino Club of America


http://www.dogguide.net/argentine-dogo.php check the website the breed group is the hound

Well said and 100 percen agree boarsnesthogdogs they may not look it but thats Wat they are bred from

Miscellaneous class; Working group designation. Ranging in size from 23½ to 27 inches tall at the shoulder. Big-game hunter; guardian.


The dogo is know a known breed to the akc, they have them in the working group. You can look it up on the akc website

Just to clarify, are you saying that there are no well bred dogo culls?

There are most certainly well bred culls.

working group not a hound group. i could care less what some foreign country says about a mixed up mastiff. i read the site and you may have to re-read the first sentence in the "personality" section. the base was a mastiff. so they are mastiffs  ;) ;D


id buy em! ;D

dont get me wrong i would run a dogo in a heartbeat rolleyes

i just feel you cant compare a dogo vs a pit cause they are two different breed types. didnt come from me but i know a couple of pits that would give a dogo a run for its money. ive owned one.

I agree I good old style pit or ab is hard to beat if it can be

this is GREAT!! LOL I prefer a cross like 1/16 dogo 15/16 pit :o LOL JK ! Jk!   ;D:angel:

I thought Mike had banned the word dogo a year ago.


I agree with those of y'all who say a dogo is in the hound group. They must be, cuz they sure
As heck ain't comparable to no real bulldog.

]I agree with those of y'all who say a dogo is in the hound group. They must be, cuz they sure
As heck ain't comparable to no real bulldog.

GAME SET MATCH!!!

took the words outta my mouth T-Bob

this topic got good real quick  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

And this time it was actually Dogo lovers vs. Dogo lovers ( for the most part)....  ;D

               yea it was  ;D

but seriously yall a dogo is in the mastiff family

Well they oughta be in the toy group...  :D >:D

Only kidding around. Please see signature below \/

I'm going to get me a hound and tip there ears so they look tuffer to a hog!! There going to be the coolest hounds ever.

LMAO! That's great! LMAO!  :o :D ;D

did that to a plott pup that was born with some ugly ears. looked really dumb and never left the vet ;)

this thread just came back from the  dead  ;D

I love Dogos.....But they are not meant to be a lead in dog. And, how catchy they are has a lot to do with how they are introduced to hogs, just like every other breed. If you let a hog smash em as a pup, theyll probly stay back and bay better. If you let em hammer weak hogs as they grow up, theyll probly be rougher. Just my experience. my two best strike dogs ar half dogos, and they stay back and bay good. Hunted with a guy that lead one in the other day, and it didnt lock on half as hard as a bull. It's not what theyre for. If you want them for catch dogs, use three at a time

Well if I start cropping there ears now in about 10 breedings I should have it genetically breed into them to be born with cropped years.  ;D

Personally, I have no use for either one. I'm not from the ghetto, nor am I from Argentina O0

Warrent this is about where you start gettin into trouble.. rolleyes ;D

Warrent I want to see these kamikaze cur dogs you got. I believe they are what you say I just want to see them. We got two old line bred female Florida curs.

thats just awesome lol i cant wait to see it if you have a pic of one of your hounds photoshop it you might be surprised

Gonna have a Liter of half dogo and the male is half black mouth cur. a quarter kemmer cur and quarter plott. schuld been vorn November sixth she had 13 pups last time. looking forward to These pups they should eure enuff hog dogs when großen. the mother is full blood dogo and will strikte and catch. the dad is young dog but impresses me hard hunter good nose fast will stay hooked on long winded hog. when he get on hot Track he opens. the pups should not opens coming from dogo . if yea want a pup my Email is jtaruba@aim.com or iPhone 281-850-3269. god bless

The purpose of the Dogo was to create a running bulldog with stamina. I have personally never owned one but I have seen them and I can say they have wind and they are intelligent. Pound for pound, I do not think they are as strong as a pit or an American Bulldog. They can probably take the heat better than some strains of American Bulldog, especially bulldogs heavy in Johnson blood. Can they catch better than a pit, catahoula bull, American Bull, or mix of these? I would have to see more in action to answer that intelligently. There simply are not enough of them in the USA to be able to evaluate them. If you have one and like it, good hunting to ya.

if your lookin to sell dogs please go to the dog trade. also post pictures and no essay about chickens that havnt hatched. thanks       ETHD  popo :P

Yea Mr. Chance but at the end of the day they will still be hounds......






.....just pokin fun people, just pokin fun!

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This boy has always been as crazy ax any pit or Am Bull - 3 1/2 months old there. He was the only one out of Two litters who was like this, others caught hard but none caught as early or with as much intensity

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If the dogo was bred like the pit or like most bulldogs for as long, there would be less culls.

And guys, dogos aren't supposed to bay  :), I've seen young dogs do it - but it really sucks when they do.

yall know its funny watching yall argue over dogos and pits but as much as yall want to talk at the end of the day the dogo is still better  :o

Opinions vary...

Depends on what you exoect out of a dog.... :)

***expect

Obviously not much!

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I think there is just a lack of knowledge on here about dogos... dogs... life.  The same thing happened to dogos that happens to every other breed. Some people to want to pay $$$ for an unproven pup wether its a hunter or a catchdog so they buy cheap.  Either a cross or some dude that says they are full blood but dogos cost too much so he is gonna sell them cheap unregistered.  Well if the reg price is unjust then why don't you change that and sell your reg pups cheaper.  I bet I know why...before you go out and buy a cheap dog or hunt with one check out the original breed standard of the dogo and see if it matches the discription.  Then find out its background ... if there is any... and see if it came from hunting lines or just somebody making a good deal.  Lets compare apples to apples.  Not someones cull or mixed dog to your "tope notch" hunting dog.  I've hunted with just about every breed you can put in the woods for pigs mixed and fullblood.  I've seen variations of all of them that bay, catch or both.  One of my smartest dogs was a pit that bayed till help got there then caught as hard as any I've seen.  If you think that's a flaw in a dog... you need to get in the woods a little more.  All I'm saying is show me a crappy dogo and Ill show you three just like it in your dog of choice.  You get what you pay for.

I have Harley's. People will always tell you that they have a motorcycle just like it, but faster, better looking and more reliable. Oh yea its cheaper too. I have many Ford Diesel trucks. Back when Ford had the 7.3 liter Power Stroke (the best pick up series diesel ever...) every diesel guy would tell you how there brand of truck/diesel made more HP, more torque, better MPG. Now I have Dogo's. People are constantly telling me how Pits and AB are better, better, better.

People with Harley's Dont need to tell you the value of their bike. People with the the good 'ole P.S. Diesels dont approach you to tell you about the quality of there truck, Nor does a Dogo owner tell you the qualtiy of their dogs.

If you wanted a Harley, should have bought one! If you wanted a real diesel should have bought one! If you wanted a versitle hunter, guard dog and a companion, should have bought one!

Ask the Dogo breeders and hunters, when it was they switched from Pits or AB's and why.

If you dont like them, dont buy. If you can't afford them buy back-yard breeders "finished" dogs and have a ball!

Thanks for you time!

If there was a "LIKE" button Id be clicken on it Dogodave!!

It seems the two posts above are contradictory ???


Maybe you should ask the same question to those that breed/hunt ABs and APBTs.

Rose colored glasses are seldom a good thing...

The Dogo is a big dog. Some are slow.  Some are damn near stupid.
Please, tell me your experience with the breed goes further than the one alpha male you have that's only 1.5 years old.

Scott- Not the point. I saw the thread and bit. Like a Dogo! Face first! I wasnt coming to you to sell you on Dogos, I fealt compeled to tell my story, To defend the Dogo. I didnt start the thread to prove I have good dogs. But Point taken

Doggie- I own 4 and out of the 4 one is stellar. 2 of them are 16 Months and 2 are 14 Months. So I am new to Dogos and I have only Hog/Dog hunted for a few years. But I am smart enough to know what didnt work and what does.

If the dog is a cull, let it be! Regardless of price.

But what I found out quickly is how many people who enjoy our sport dont have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out. So if you have any experience with them, did you pay for them, or the person who did pay for it, would they cull it. More times than not, NO! Maybe pass it off as a "Not finished" or water it down with another breed.

I hate it for anyone who has a negative experience with them. Not every breed, nor every breeder has perfect dogs. But can they cull it. I sure hope you experieince what I have and see what I saw. The guy I bought from is a savage. "Dogo dont hunt, Dogo doesnt come home". He is hunter and trainer at heart and only a breeder for mostly his own stock.

I was asked to breed my male to a local breeder's price pedigree female. Her dogs were show dogs. I declined. I dont need the money or support that. Hopefully that's not the what people see. 

The males can be dopey, until 3 or 4 - Hahahaha

Youth/ignorance is bliss.......

ok i see only one way to settle this this thread is outta control im a dog lover in general ive been huntin quite a while used both liked both but nothing has the drive and pitbull has to keep moving to keep on keeping on when the waters over your waders if you know what i mean on the other hand a dogo a sport breed dogo that i messed with had legs for miles and great power but i did not see the intensity of the pitt in the dogo and i did not see the bottom of the dogo in the pitt they r both great hunting dogs thatll get the job done depending what you like and prefer my preference is a dog thatll do the job how i like it, somehting we can all agree on there both beautiful dogs they both have positves and negatives that could be better about the dogs but what r u gonna do and before its said when i say a dogo has more bottom than i pitt my pitts were in great shape hunted an average of 4 times a week and exercised no less than 30 min everyday.  i always use two i like the double tapp

             really justin

Yes really, There are tons of Men on this site that have been hunting for longer than you or I have been alive and when I see a post with no feasible reference or experience to back it up sometimes it gets to me............its ok to be a bit cocky about one of your own dogs..hell thats just pride but when I see a young man such as yourself making a broad assumption about a breed of dogs as a whole being better or superior to another breed it honestly just makes me laugh.......I bet 5 years ago you didn't have a clue what a dogo was along with 90% of others on this site including myself and I will also bet that you have known what a pit is since you were a little boy along with at least 90% of the people on this site.........Dogos are just the new next "big thing" not that they are or arent a good dog but to say that a dogo in general is better than a pit or ab is just absurd......bulldogs both abs and pits have been and will be for years to come the most widely used catchdog for hog hunters.....plain and simple.............

I will not  dog on a person for owning or hunting a dogo, I may joke around and poke fun  but at the end of the day if the dogs works/ hunts for you then im happy............good luck with your dogo's

Some people don't like any of em. Some say they do too much damage to a hog, and just use curs

Shoot ive seen a lot more damage caused by cur dogs than bulldogs...

One thing I can't stand is a cur dog that wont get off a hog when I get there...

Unless its a straight catch cur...

Riverbottom,

Do you have any pics of your dog?? I'd like to see him and hear how he is bred and how he catches...

              yea your right justin i just took what u said the wrong way

              ill try to post some pics trent

               This is my dog
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(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j325/pigrig1/P1000363.jpg)how to fix a big dumb slow dogo..add bit of english pointer greyhound and boarder collie=a real pot licker

I have hunted for 15 years now and I have had my fair share of dogos and pits had some good dogos but I will pick a red nose pit over any thing and who said that a pit can't find there own hog bs I got 3 now that will find there own I just want own a full dogo maybe a catdo but not a full dogo. I have all was said dogo nogo!!!!

isnt this the one with pit? so therefore not a full papered dodo?

               Yep sure is but that just means he ain't some rich snob's ( papers mean nothing to me ) dog because as long as he catches I don't  care about papers  cuz papers are only good if u are planning on breading them

So if you have a papered dog your a rich snob? ???

Its starting to get real 8th grade up in here.  Its ok to agree to disagree fellas.  Everyone has there own idea of what a good dog is and how a good dog should hunt.  I don't really understand hating on a papered dog.  I used to say the same stuff and I don't have a good reason why I did other than I couldn't afford one.  I'm not saying you can't and I'm not saying its makes the dog but a guy wants what he wants.  These things are all opinions and they are only worth something to the people that respect it from you.  Its like telling a guy to sit down when u pee ... its easier and you wont miss the damn pot.  Some of us don't want to sit down.  We want to stand up like big boys and pee.  If you like sittin down than just sit there but don't tell me I'm an idiot for standing... and I wont tell you that you look like a little pup squatin..  Know what I mean?

so a rich snob has papers?  rolleyes

and if im breading a dodo it will be mustard, onions, and lettuce only. to much grease :laugh:

              Man the way I said it came out wrong all I'm saying is papers don't mean everything

No wonder it catches, its got pitbull in it!!!!!!!!!

Hahahahahahahahah, the only things this fatboy breads are hotdogs and hamburgers!!!!

Justin that's what I tried to tell him . As good as it chatch'es with it being a 1/4 pit just think how much better it would catch if it was 100% pit. ;D ;D ;D

occasional fish and chips for this fat boy!

Lol no doubt!!!! The percentage would be multiplied by unmeasurable incriments!!!!!!

I prefer red meat! N lost of it! I will make an exception for a crappie or 2 hahahaha

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justin they would start at 1/4 increments. ;) ;D

and thats a whole mess of fish... i trade you some deer burgers

Lol and i would probly make that trade but them crappie's are long gone......along with these
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And these
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Lol

              But it wouldn't look as good here is u a full blood pit

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          Just poking fun ;D

I didn't know you had a pic of old Bo I've caught a lot hogs with him

             yes u have  ;D