EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS FORUM

I walk hunt and have a mastiff x cur Dane he's no strike by any means but have struck a hog with him every time I've taken him. He's a great short range dog but catches every time. I like him bcuz he'll hunt no further then 150 yards away and since I walk hunt its perfect for what I do. However I don't like how he catches are there any particular breeds that are hot nosed and really good short ranges? Comment your thoughts pictures and experience.
THANKS AND GOD BLESS

95% of dogs are short ranged.

Your saying 95% of dogs won't range out more than 150 yards in search of a track?

get you a dachsund they dont range out to fast  :P

   150 is under your feet to me.  Short range to me is around 300 to 400 yards. The longer I hunt the more I see that a hog dog is rare.

I would probably agree with this, I might give alil more credit.  I'd say 95% won't go over 300 yds in NO sign and actually look for it.  Most people are so worried about catching hogs, they never take the time to learn their dogs and what they're doing.

He stays hunting under 150 yards unless he's on a track or down wind. I have to disagree with the 95 percent of dogs are short range. Nothing personal but if u get any line of dog that's worth two scents your going to have dogs that will range out fairly far. It also in my mind depends on the dogs prey drive if a dog has a great nose but has little interest then it doesn't matter but if u have a dog that has a high prey drive then they'll range out further even without that good of a nose and in my mind that's how the jagds have earned their reputation.

I've seen very few dogs that "hunt" further than distances of 250yards...even hounds I've hunted with don't range that far. You van go with almost any breed and get a short ranged dog.

My kids dachsund jumped in my truck one day when I was going to check some cows.  He ain't ever been nowhere.  Left him in the truck with the window cracked while I was filling mineral feeders.  Next thing I know I see him flying across the pasture.  Probably went 600 yards and went into Tue woods.  Took me over an hour to get him outta them woods.

You can make most dogs shorter range just by starting them out walk hunting as a pup.

The only time I see dogs that stay 250 and under is hunt with yall or monty

Any body that road hunts or hood hunts dogs are going to be shorter hunting range dogs , there's no need for a dog to hunt 1,000 yards deep then strike an run anothe mile might as well strike it close , as long as they put hog at the end don't matter to me if they huntingibg 50 yards or 200 as long as they actively hunting ,
I have found a dog that hunts with you is alot Easyer to handle if you get on that just leaves out on a bee line headed north an don't strike nothing for .5 mile an still running flat out hunting that's not good for me ,
Alot of those dogs run past beded down hogs that been there for awhile

Stokely...you must be hunting with the other 5% then.....my dogs hunt around  150-400 depending on which dog and how big place is. That's how far they "hunt" , if they hit track the're gone just like most dogs. I would love to see more tater type dogs.

You must have never seen a dog really hunt short range I mean actively hunting for a track just not leavening out till he hits one , doesn't matter about the nose on the dog , I got a hound that hunts 150 to 200 but he hits 250 or 300 go ahead an start getting ready cus he bout to put a hog at the end , might be at 400 yards or might be 2 or3 miles

Boys range is a funny thing it's a Blessing and sometimes a Curse be careful what you ask for, You just might get it!! TXSteve I believe everybody is always trying to evolve and perfect their packs. I always wanted a drop the tailgate burn the woods up type of dog, And boy did I get one but with the limited country around our parts it's sometimes hard to get Him out, and everbody thats hunted with Leon and Me can vouch our Tator Pup Freak will get clean out of the country if need be and roll till you catch every hog in the group he  strikes. I know alot of you guys have the same kind of dog and it's amazing. The way you know You have this type of dog is when your hunting buddies try and catch him before they do the hog on the fifth bay after multiple miles of Hog catching. After all that being said Guys try to set your pack up to Your style and the land you have available to hunt. We have 2 totally different Packs around my house we have the 400 acre pack and the no less than 2000 acre pack and they work well for us. It all comes down to knowing your pack and trying to set them all up for sucess. Hell boys thats the fun part of this Chess Match we call HOG HUNTING WITH DOGS. Sorry I was so long winded I love this stuff!!

It can depend on how the dogs you start your pups with hunt.

It can be fairly easy (sometimes people even do it unknowingly) to take a dog bred with a lot of go and condition him to hunt close.

However, It's next to impossible to take a dog bred without a lot of go and make him hunt deep.

Hey Jo you know my dogs, they're short to medium range typically and I agree with you but I think it all goes back to hunting style.

They're a whole lot of fun when you have the property to hunt them.  If you don't they can turn into a pain in the butt in a hurry.

When I was hunting I rather have a dog that stayed busy in the headlights or just a tad further and find hogs on a regular basis then one that took off like its tail was on fire before it started hunting. I have seen it many times where the dogs that took off several hundred yards or more before they started hunting were out struck by the dogs that hunted in closer but stayed busy. There was many a time the "long range dog" was bayed up over a mile away once he found and bayed up a hog and we caught hogs with the "short range" dogs going to them. There were even times we had to track to the long range dog because we could not hear it baying and caught hogs going to it as well. IMHO shorter range busy dogs will produce more hogs then long range get out of the country type dogs, however if the hogs are scarce in your area I can see the need for a go yonder type dog as well.

I hear ya I hunt with Blakes tater and it can be very exhausting trying to catch up...especially if Blake's tater, jo's hound and my female are on the ground..they relay...it's when they start relaying that it really gets interesting.
My pack consist of loose bay, gritty and rough ..short range to relay dog...I like being able to adapt to whatever strangely we decide to use.

I'm adding a lil range to mine at the moment but I'm hoping to shorten him up just a lil compared to his parents.  Got a male pup from a buddy.  Grandsire on one side is BigO's Bear dog and Clues's Cowboy on the other.

I'm adding a lil range to mine at the moment but I'm hoping to shorten him up just a lil compared to his parents.  Got a male pup from a buddy.  Grandsire on one side is BigO's Bear dog and Clues's Cowboy on the other.
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 Throw a pic up of the pup..I really like my pup that's got cowboy bred x reno bred.

if you check my recent post there's a couple there.  I'll try to get some better ones to post later.

A wide hunting dog that passes up hogs is just as sorry a dog as a short range dog that doesn't find anything at all.  Only difference between the two should be that when a shorter type dog has made a round and returns back, that the longer dog is still hunting deeper.  It shouldn't have anything to do with which can find hogs that are close.  I'll cull a dog that leaves the box and runs a 1/2 mile before it starts hunting just as quick as I'll cull one that won't leave the box at all.

I'll never say that one type or the other is a better dog, just a personal preference of what you choose to hunt.

I agree 100 percent with both...

I like dogs that hunt with me but at the same time are independent enough to range out and catch hogs...I like a dog that covers about 3 hundred yards in all directions and hunts in loops...that dog is covering a radius of 6 hundred yards and with a good winding and tracking nose this dog can and will find hogs...there are dogs that are brush beaters who can't find a hog unless they stumble on them and there are dogs that have that knack in finding hogs and these dogs can and will make it look easy...

Range...like already mentioned a longer ranging dog can usually be made to hunt closer if he is not too independent...yep...a dog can be too independent, to a fault, and this dog can be a pain in the rear...making a longer ranging dog hunt closer can be as simple as traveling a little faster on the wheeler...and shorter ranging dogs can be made to range further if we stop or slow down often...same with teaching the dogs to take colder tracks...when they start smelling around on hog scent shut it down and let the dogs work until they give it up or work it out before moving...if you want the dogs to work hotter tracks then don't wait on the dogs and move on...

I like a dog that when I see decent hog sign there is no doubt in my mind that the dog will be baying in 10 minutes or less and it could be a 1/4 mile or a mile away...as leaders of the pack we always need to be thinking about what is best for the the pack... and then we must do what we can to set them up for success...

Typically ridgebacks are shorter ranged dogs. Usually rough to catchy

Our Patterdales are short ranged, and very effective for us.

There are lots of curs out there that fit your criteria. Ask around I am sure someone on this site has something you maybe interested in.

yep im gonna say it just because im a funny guy if you want a dog that wont go far get a .........................................dogo >:D

are cats mainly short range dogs? the few that ive hunted with that are pure have been but that dont mean all are i guess

You might look into converting a dog bred for squirrel. Squirrel dogs aren't bred to be go yonder dogs. I have no experience with this but it is a thought. Some close range squirrel dogs range less than 100yds. I'm on a squirrel forum and I see them catching hogs with the squirrel mt curs on occasion. Some even with fiests.

I hear ya I hunt with Blakes tater and it can be very exhausting trying to catch up...especially if Blake's tater, jo's hound and my female are on the ground..they relay...it's when they start relaying that it really gets interesting.
My pack consist of loose bay, gritty and rough ..short range to relay dog...I like being able to adapt to whatever strangely we decide to use.
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I prefer a short range dog so I dont have to walk so far from the truck. Also, I hood and road hunt, VERY SELDOM walk a dog more than 100 yards. If they wont hunt/wind farther than I am willing to walk them in, then they wont be fed by me.

My Tator was road hunted his entire life. I dont think it took any range out of him, but if it did, I call that a good thing.

I prefer to have a ground dog like Tator, Freak, Teejay, Joe's hound, Steve's pup (that will eventually be my pup once he has that new baby) etc grinding it out, and a smart hood dog like Yeller/Buck/TXCSteve's Sam/any of Monty's yellow dogs, on the hood. Sometimes that wind is just far enough off the ground that a hood dog will pick it up in the air when a ground dog is kicking so much dust up they run right by it.

I prefer a short range dog so I dont have to walk so far from the truck. Also, I hood and road hunt, VERY SELDOM walk a dog more than 100 yards. If they wont hunt/wind farther than I am willing to walk them in, then they wont be fed by me.

My Tator was road hunted his entire life. I dont think it took any range out of him, but if it did, I call that a good thing.

I prefer to have a ground dog like Tator, Freak, Teejay, Joe's hound, Steve's pup (that will eventually be my pup once he has that new baby) etc grinding it out, and a smart hood dog like Yeller/Buck/TXCSteve's Sam/any of Monty's yellow dogs, on the hood. Sometimes that wind is just far enough off the ground that a hood dog will pick it up in the air when a ground dog is kicking so much dust up they run right by it.
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all my yellow dogs are short range and very rough, i hood hunt and road some

lmao!!

in my opp.a dog that ranges out just 150 and circles back is not my style of dog,i like mine to to go quite a bite father dont like dogs under my feet and thats what i call under my feet.different strokes for differnt folks